Free Speech Coalition News

Kinky · 2005-06-10, 08:43 PM

just got the e-mail so I thought I would post the update for everybody

ACTION SOON ON 2257 LAW
CHATSWORTH, CA -- Within a week, Free Speech Coalition will file lawsuits
and will ask for temporary restraining orders on behalf of its members and
other named plaintiffs against enforcement of the revised recordkeeping and
labeling regulations under 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2257. The revised regulations are
due to take effect on June 23. Paul Cambria and H. Louis Sirkin are
drafting the lawsuits, with the help of a number of other prominent First
Amendment Attorneys.
“It will be as comprehensive as possible,” said Cambria, “designed
to address all the major problems we foresee with these regulations."
In the meantime, many adult entertainment producers (including
so-called “secondary producers” such as many Webmasters) are scrambling to
become as 2257 compliant as possible. FSC recommends that adult industry
companies seek legal advice from attorneys knowledgeable about the new
regulations. No one can guarantee that injunctive relief will be granted,
or, if it is, what components of the law and regulations will be covered.
If the anticipated wave of 2257 enforcement takes place there could be a
critical shortage of skilled attorneys with knowledge in this area, and
lawyers mostly take new clients on a first-come, first-served basis. See
Mark Kernes’ AVN piece (URL below) for comments by Lou Sirkin, Paul Cambria
and J. Michael Murray on the dangers of hostile courts -- not a good time
to go to court with a lawyer who is doing on-the-job-training -- and on the
benefits of retaining attorneys in advance; and on the need for the
industry to band together for this fight.
On a reassuring note, see comments on the meaning and strength of
the 1998 Tenth Circuit Sundance Associates v. Reno case in an AVN Online
analysis by Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, the First Amendment
attorneys who litigated Sundance. Many adult “secondary producers” have
relied on Sundance for legal guidance.
From Mark Kernes, Adult Video News, 6/8/05
<http://www.avnonline.com/articles/229387.html>http://www.avnonline.com/articles/229387.html
And from Arthur Schwartz, Michael Gross, AVN Online, 6/3/05
<http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=2257&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=229097>http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=229097
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Extreme John · 2005-06-12, 04:54 PM

I love it, although Im getting pissed because I have been trying to contact them for almost a week now to become a member, also tried in the past with no luck using the phone #

Ive left messages too.

MrYum · 2005-06-12, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extreme John

I love it, although Im getting pissed because I have been trying to contact them for almost a week now to become a member, also tried in the past with no luck using the phone #

Ive left messages too.

That's surprising John...I left a message a couple weeks ago and got a call back the next day.

Crap...I'm trying to get people to join the FSC...and they're not returning calls. I know they're no doubt busy...but damn, one would think they'd make getting new members a priority.

Really sorry to hear that John

Calliope · 2005-06-13, 09:59 AM

I called the number on the website last tuesday and got someone to answer on the first ring... I faxed my application in and was looking to verify it was recieved. They told me to expect a letter in 5-7 business days.

Rocco · 2005-06-13, 10:50 AM

good news

tiny · 2005-06-13, 11:48 AM

I just wonder how much money these guys have made so far with membership signup.

Kinky · 2005-06-13, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiny

I just wonder how much money these guys have made so far with membership signup.

not enough, they will spend a hell of alot more than they have made if things end up in court.... not to mention they have lobbyists on the payroll to lobby for the porn industry and numerous other things that most people don't know about... got to their website and read up a little bit

http://freespeechcoalition.com

MrYum · 2005-06-13, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinky

not enough, they will spend a hell of alot more than they have made if things end up in court.... not to mention they have lobbyists on the payroll to lobby for the porn industry and numerous other things that most people don't know about... got to their website and read up a little bit

http://freespeechcoalition.com

Absolutely true Stu

I called the FSC this morning to confirm that my membership was processed. Got through on the first ring!

They confirmed that their phones have been very busy...but they are trying to call everyone back asap.

She also said they'd had some issues with their billing processor and are currently changing that...which is why the online sign up isn't working. She could not give me a projected date of when the online form will be live again.

She did say that anyone wanting to join (GOOD idea!)...can either call...if they don't answer...leave a message and they will call back. Or, you can print off their fax form and fax it in.

Attorneys can get very expensive...VERY quickly. I've seen people complaining on a number of boards about our industry not having a voice in Washington...not having lobbyists speaking on our behalf. Well, we do have a voice that lobbys on our behalf...and one that's about to fight a VERY important fight...on OUR behalf.

Support the FSC folks...I'll send them my annual membership fee gladly

MrYum · 2005-06-13, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum

Absolutely true Stu

I called the FSC this morning to confirm that my membership was processed. Got through on the first ring!

They confirmed that their phones have been very busy...but they are trying to call everyone back asap.

She also said they'd had some issues with their billing processor and are currently changing that...which is why the online sign up isn't working. She could not give me a projected date of when the online form will be live again.

She did say that anyone wanting to join (GOOD idea!)...can either call...if they don't answer...leave a message and they will call back. Or, you can print off their fax form and fax it in.

Attorneys can get very expensive...VERY quickly. I've seen people complaining on a number of boards about our industry not having a voice in Washington...not having lobbyists speaking on our behalf. Well, we do have a voice that lobbys on our behalf...and one that's about to fight a VERY important fight...on OUR behalf.

Support the FSC folks...I'll send them my annual membership fee gladly

Ooops! My gf was just reading the board and informed me that I'd mis-posted my reply to Stu above...it was supposed to be Kinky! mmmm...Kinky

Sorry Kinky!

Cleo · 2005-06-13, 06:03 PM

I finally got my membership in the mail today.

I think I must have been one of the last to join online before it got pulled.

Kinky · 2005-06-13, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum

Ooops! My gf was just reading the board and informed me that I'd mis-posted my reply to Stu above...it was supposed to be Kinky! mmmm...Kinky

Sorry Kinky!

LOL I wouldn't mind being Stu, I am pretty sure she makes a hell of a lot more money than I do

MrYum · 2005-06-13, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinky

LOL I wouldn't mind being Stu, I am pretty sure she makes a hell of a lot more money than I do

lol...too cute Kinky

WTG Cleo! Glad they got ya in there

Got my membership info in mail today too

Ms Naughty · 2005-06-14, 02:54 AM

I hope they get their online form back up soon. My fax is mental and I really really hate making overseas phonecalls...

Mishi · 2005-06-15, 06:12 AM

Save your money and hire your own attorney. Seriously, folks - don't trust any organization that would have you as a member.

Especially if they don't provide hats.

Please pay close attention to whom Mr. Cambria has represented in the past. Ask youself how much his former clients care about your business.

I don't wish to defame Mr. Cambria. I do wish people in this business would educate themselves before joining the lemmings at the edge of the cliff.

tickler · 2005-06-15, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishi

Please pay close attention to whom Mr. Cambria has represented in the past.

Don't know Mr. Cambria, but, that is not a particulary fair statement.

If you need a lawyer, you get the best one with experience in the required field.

2005-06-10, 08:43 PM	#1
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	Free Speech Coalition News just got the e-mail so I thought I would post the update for everybody ACTION SOON ON 2257 LAW CHATSWORTH, CA -- Within a week, Free Speech Coalition will file lawsuits and will ask for temporary restraining orders on behalf of its members and other named plaintiffs against enforcement of the revised recordkeeping and labeling regulations under 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2257. The revised regulations are due to take effect on June 23. Paul Cambria and H. Louis Sirkin are drafting the lawsuits, with the help of a number of other prominent First Amendment Attorneys. “It will be as comprehensive as possible,” said Cambria, “designed to address all the major problems we foresee with these regulations." In the meantime, many adult entertainment producers (including so-called “secondary producers” such as many Webmasters) are scrambling to become as 2257 compliant as possible. FSC recommends that adult industry companies seek legal advice from attorneys knowledgeable about the new regulations. No one can guarantee that injunctive relief will be granted, or, if it is, what components of the law and regulations will be covered. If the anticipated wave of 2257 enforcement takes place there could be a critical shortage of skilled attorneys with knowledge in this area, and lawyers mostly take new clients on a first-come, first-served basis. See Mark Kernes’ AVN piece (URL below) for comments by Lou Sirkin, Paul Cambria and J. Michael Murray on the dangers of hostile courts -- not a good time to go to court with a lawyer who is doing on-the-job-training -- and on the benefits of retaining attorneys in advance; and on the need for the industry to band together for this fight. On a reassuring note, see comments on the meaning and strength of the 1998 Tenth Circuit Sundance Associates v. Reno case in an AVN Online analysis by Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, the First Amendment attorneys who litigated Sundance. Many adult “secondary producers” have relied on Sundance for legal guidance. From Mark Kernes, Adult Video News, 6/8/05 <http://www.avnonline.com/articles/229387.html>http://www.avnonline.com/articles/229387.html And from Arthur Schwartz, Michael Gross, AVN Online, 6/3/05 <http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=2257&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=229097>http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=229097 __________________________________________________________ __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-06-12, 04:54 PM	#2
Extreme John Afro John says: "Touch The Extreme Afro & You'll Be In Extreme Pain!" Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,671	I love it, although Im getting pissed because I have been trying to contact them for almost a week now to become a member, also tried in the past with no luck using the phone # Ive left messages too. __________________ September 6, 2007

2005-06-13, 10:50 AM	#5
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2005-06-13, 06:03 PM	#10
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I finally got my membership in the mail today. I think I must have been one of the last to join online before it got pulled. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-06-14, 02:54 AM	#13
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	I hope they get their online form back up soon. My fax is mental and I really really hate making overseas phonecalls... __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2005-06-13, 09:59 AM	#4
Calliope Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 26	I called the number on the website last tuesday and got someone to answer on the first ring... I faxed my application in and was looking to verify it was recieved. They told me to expect a letter in 5-7 business days.

2005-06-13, 11:48 AM	#6
tiny Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: maine Posts: 447	I just wonder how much money these guys have made so far with membership signup.

2005-06-15, 06:12 AM	#14
Mishi I want to live. I want to experience the universe, and I want to eat pie. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain Posts: 661	Save your money and hire your own attorney. Seriously, folks - don't trust any organization that would have you as a member. Especially if they don't provide hats. Please pay close attention to whom Mr. Cambria has represented in the past. Ask youself how much his former clients care about your business. I don't wish to defame Mr. Cambria. I do wish people in this business would educate themselves before joining the lemmings at the edge of the cliff.