Google Street View logs WiFi networks, Mac addresses

tickler · 2010-04-28, 10:57 AM

The name of the Big Brother beast is the GORG....

They just keep invading everything on privacy, until some government(eg. Germany,Canada) bitch slaps them and then they back off a bit.

Until the next time they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar!

Quote:

Google's roving Street View spycam may blur your face, but it's got your number. The Street View service is under fire in Germany for scanning private WLAN networks, and recording users' unique Mac (Media Access Control) addresses, as the car trundles along.

Germany's Federal Commissioner for Data Protection Peter Schaar says he's "horrified" by the discovery.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04...ew_logs_wlans/

Cleo · 2010-04-28, 11:00 AM

That is how assisted GPS knows where a wifi is located so that it can give a user their location.

Personally I don't have a problem with this.

MadCat · 2010-04-28, 11:27 AM

Oh boo-hoo it records your MAC address. Great. Did you know that your computer sends it's MAC address along with every damn thing you do on your network? But only to the next nearest device, coincidentally.

So yes, on WiFi, I can sit there and go "oh, someone NEAR here is using MAC address so-and-so". Yeah, well, get any area that's got a lot of domestic WiFi going on, and you've got upwards of 100 to 200 MAC addresses in a 300sq feet area.

Wonder how they'll link that back to an individual.

Besides, it's WiFi. If you don't want your shit looked at when it flies through the ether, get some cat-5 and cable up.

JAI-LING · 2010-05-05, 07:23 AM

Its a matter of ethics...

Which google seems to have little of...

MadCat · 2010-05-05, 08:11 AM

More a matter of using what's available - if you've got a banner on the side of your house proclaiming you like Obama, so what if I send you a mailer promoting him? After all, you put the information out there, so now it's in the public domain.

People that are worried that Google records the existance of their home WiFi should take a good hard look at themselves and then do one of two things: if you left your wireless open or secured with a weak WEP password, you should go have a cup of STFU, because you are in no position to talk. If you took the proper security measures such as using WPA2, having your wireless access point do MAC filtering so only your own machines can connect; then you can talk and complain. However, people that have done the latter are generally aware of the fact that WiFi is an ether-transmitted medium and as such -can be sniffed, recorded, located, and otherwise spotted-, and know it doesn't make one iota of difference how much complaining is done, that shit done don't change.

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Cleo · 2010-05-05, 08:18 AM

There is a real simple solution to people not wanting the MAC address of their wifi logged, turn it off and use a wired network.

JAI-LING · 2010-05-05, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

There is a real simple solution to people not wanting the MAC address of their wifi logged, turn it off and use a wired network.

Simplest solution (laughing) would be to have the use of the technology banned...
Google is already in so much shit over their sleazy practices...why do we need to jump through hoops?
We are very secure...non-MAC...but...seriously...the original point please...the USA is such a cesspool at this point who gives a shit anyway right?

MadCat · 2010-05-05, 01:09 PM

@JAI-LING: Non MAC? Oh really now.

<luser mode="on" type="ohnoes">
ohnoes! they are stealing my megahurtz! i'm broadcasting an IP address! the haxxors will get me!"
</luser>

Cleo · 2010-05-05, 01:26 PM

Maybe JAI-LING needs to move out of LA and find a nice cozy cave to hide out in so that no one will tag his wifi.

Here's the MAC address of my WiFi, 00:19:E3:FB:76:4F. It has been tagged as being located in east Fort Lauderdale. I know this because my non gps WiFi devices know where on this big spinning rock it is located which is rather coinvent for me because things like the X10 controllers in my house know what time sunrise and sunset so the lights in my house work automatically.

MadCat · 2010-05-05, 03:57 PM

Being the evil hacker person that I am, the MAC address on my WiFi router is 00

E:AD:BE:EF:00 ... my laptop responds to 00:FE:ED:FA:CE ... so I guess I'm feeding my face dead beef

JAI-LING · 2010-05-05, 05:02 PM

For an a-hole, you're a funny guy... good points.

tickler · 2010-05-15, 12:25 PM

And of course digging deeper as more information comes out, they weren't just grabbing MAC addresses.

Considering that 99% of people are not technical in any way, and just run stuff straight out of the box.

That snooping makes one hell of an accidental information grab!

Quote:

Google’s Data Collection Angers European Officials
But in its review, Mr. Overbeck said the company learned that its data collection performed by roving StreetView vehicles was much more extensive, including the record of Web sites viewed by the user and potentially the contents of e-mails when users did not secure their wireless networks with a password in a process known as encryption.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/te...html?src=busln

Cleo · 2010-05-15, 01:18 PM

I hear that google knows what we search for too.

orange · 2010-05-22, 02:31 AM

they're going overboard

Vekseid · 2010-05-24, 02:13 AM

So when we move to IPv6 and mac addresses are integrated with our IP addresses, will we be undergoing mass panic then?

2010-04-28, 11:00 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	That is how assisted GPS knows where a wifi is located so that it can give a user their location. Personally I don't have a problem with this. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2010-04-28, 11:27 AM	#3
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	Oh boo-hoo it records your MAC address. Great. Did you know that your computer sends it's MAC address along with every damn thing you do on your network? But only to the next nearest device, coincidentally. So yes, on WiFi, I can sit there and go "oh, someone NEAR here is using MAC address so-and-so". Yeah, well, get any area that's got a lot of domestic WiFi going on, and you've got upwards of 100 to 200 MAC addresses in a 300sq feet area. Wonder how they'll link that back to an individual. Besides, it's WiFi. If you don't want your shit looked at when it flies through the ether, get some cat-5 and cable up. __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

2010-05-05, 07:23 AM	#4
JAI-LING Currently in an Oppai Bar Getting Tittified! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,267	Its not a matter of technology... Its a matter of ethics... Which google seems to have little of... __________________ DM me to have your content making money in Japan. New opps available.

2010-05-05, 08:11 AM	#5
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	More a matter of using what's available - if you've got a banner on the side of your house proclaiming you like Obama, so what if I send you a mailer promoting him? After all, you put the information out there, so now it's in the public domain. People that are worried that Google records the existance of their home WiFi should take a good hard look at themselves and then do one of two things: if you left your wireless open or secured with a weak WEP password, you should go have a cup of STFU, because you are in no position to talk. If you took the proper security measures such as using WPA2, having your wireless access point do MAC filtering so only your own machines can connect; then you can talk and complain. However, people that have done the latter are generally aware of the fact that WiFi is an ether-transmitted medium and as such -can be sniffed, recorded, located, and otherwise spotted-, and know it doesn't make one iota of difference how much complaining is done, that shit done don't change. </rant> __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

2010-05-05, 08:18 AM	#6
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	There is a real simple solution to people not wanting the MAC address of their wifi logged, turn it off and use a wired network. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2010-05-05, 01:09 PM	#8
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	@JAI-LING: Non MAC? Oh really now. <luser mode="on" type="ohnoes"> ohnoes! they are stealing my megahurtz! i'm broadcasting an IP address! the haxxors will get me!" </luser> __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

2010-05-05, 01:26 PM	#9
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Maybe JAI-LING needs to move out of LA and find a nice cozy cave to hide out in so that no one will tag his wifi. Here's the MAC address of my WiFi, 00:19:E3:FB:76:4F. It has been tagged as being located in east Fort Lauderdale. I know this because my non gps WiFi devices know where on this big spinning rock it is located which is rather coinvent for me because things like the X10 controllers in my house know what time sunrise and sunset so the lights in my house work automatically. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2010-05-05, 03:57 PM	#10
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	Being the evil hacker person that I am, the MAC address on my WiFi router is 00E:AD:BE:EF:00 ... my laptop responds to 00:FE:ED:FA:CE ... so I guess I'm feeding my face dead beef __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

2010-05-05, 05:02 PM	#11
JAI-LING Currently in an Oppai Bar Getting Tittified! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,267	For an a-hole, you're a funny guy... good points. __________________ DM me to have your content making money in Japan. New opps available.

2010-05-15, 01:18 PM	#13
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I hear that google knows what we search for too. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2010-05-22, 02:31 AM	#14
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2010-05-24, 02:13 AM	#15
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