Best Adult Trade Show To Learn ...

ArtWilliams · 2008-04-02, 01:28 PM

What is the best adult trade show or conference to learn? By that, I mean ones that have a lot of organized seminars on how to improve your websites and such. Thanks!

SCORE-Cash · 2008-04-02, 01:46 PM

Good Question!

The next big show is the Xbix Summer Forum.
http://www.xbizforum.com/sessions.php

Ramster · 2008-04-02, 02:26 PM

I hear Phoenix is very very good. XBiz in the summer I hear is good and I'll be attending that one this year. Vegas Internext as well has been good.

The HUGE thing is what you make the show. Arrange to meet with other webmasters and talk with sponsors you push to see what they might be able to do for you and such. The seminars are informative but a lot of it is more for newbies on many aspects. There are some that help anyone and everyone of course.

M.Rodriguez · 2008-04-02, 04:55 PM

Good call!
Xbiz Summer Forum will be my first show and im allready excited lol

docholly · 2008-04-02, 07:03 PM

Xbiz summer by far. There are much more webmaster friendly seminars and it's a more user friendly venue, IMHO. But like Ramster said, it is what you make it.

Casa Nova · 2008-04-03, 05:00 AM

I'm looking to go to quite a few this year and start to hone my skills and learn a lot from the seminars and the people there. Xbiz will be my big one that I hope to take away alot.

BuZzZ · 2008-04-03, 01:51 PM

xbiz

HotwivesOnline · 2008-04-03, 02:46 PM

I'm thinking about attending the XBIZ Summer conference this year because I've heard good things about it also. I wish I could have gone to the Phoenix Forum this year.

I've been to several Internext shows in Vegas over the years and have never really been too thrilled. I think they put more emphasis on the trade show, and not as much on the sessions. The trade show is great for networking, but I want to learn something in the seminars too.

Fonz · 2008-04-03, 03:16 PM

I wanna go to Xbiz this year

James_HotMovies · 2008-04-04, 08:39 AM

None of the shows are that great for learning.

What they are good for is making connections.

Many seminars are full of people trying to sell the end webmasters on their products.

If you want to meet good people and make connections I'd recommend smaller shows.

If you want to party I'd recommend the larger shows.

There are too many shows currently. I attended every show for a few years and didn't have enough time in the office to work on deals.

I now only go to ones that are local, Internext in Florida, and 1 or 2 in LA.

I do send Monica and/or Kevin to all the shows.

I've heard good things about xbiz in Vegas, but I'll never go to Vegas in the summer.

Useless · 2008-04-04, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by James_HotMovies

None of the shows are that great for learning.

That's what I was going to say, but I didn't want to sound too negative. They're absolutely shit from a learning standpoint. I went to seminar about how to convert free traffic. I'm not sure if they ever got around to discussing how to convert free traffic because two the speakers were TRAFFIC BROKERS who kept repeating that you can't rely on free traffic, and there was a blogger who's message seemed to be that the blogging bubble had already burst - and that was 2 or 3 years ago. Most panelists at the seminars are there to spam their services. They have no intention of teaching you anything other than their web address. If you go to any seminars, sit next to GG's wife. Her brutally honest remarks about the panelists will keep you laughing while you sit there wondering why you paid to listen to spam.

That aside, I really enjoyed the XBiz summer show I attended.

You learn the most at shows by meeting face-to-face with other webmasters over a beer or two.

James_HotMovies · 2008-04-04, 09:02 AM

Whenever I speak on a panel I make a point to actually teach something and give the others a heard time. If you ever see me listed on one you should go for the learning/comedic value a well.

Preacher · 2008-04-04, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You learn the most at shows by meeting face-to-face with other webmasters over a beer or two.

True enough.

The other thing that blows my mind is that even though hundreds of companies spend hundreds of dollars to send their affiliate managers to throw parties and buy drinks, 90% of them don't seem to care about speaking to affiliates, but instead just hang out with the other affiliate managers and the booth babes.

Maybe it's because so few affiliates bother to attend the shows anymore?

(but some if us are still there!)

James_HotMovies · 2008-04-04, 11:07 AM

so true, I spend a lot of time trying to break away from the cliques, but you really can't.

You end up being a victim to your popularity.

That's why I hire new people and give them rules on splitting up and spreading out.

GonZo · 2008-04-04, 03:50 PM

Over the years I think Ive seen more learning at Cybernet Expo than anything I have attended. I agree typically panels have been more about people attempting to sell you some thing and a lot less on actual information.

I saw Hammer at each of these things break out a group of his clients and non clients and spend the afternoon exchaging ideas for FREE. Granted he is a consultant as am I but he isthe only one Ive ever seen to attempt to use one of those shows as a learning vehicle for free for anyone that was interested.

LAJ · 2008-04-04, 05:22 PM

Until you have been to ALL of the shows, it's not fair to chime in with who's "the best".

Hey docholly... been to cybernet expo?

Hey Score Cash... Xbiz forum is 2 big shows away.

Toby · 2008-04-04, 05:35 PM

Best show? That's one of those things that will vary individually, but FWIW, Cybernet Expo in June is the only upcoming show I'll be attending.

I'm also strongly considering the new Atlanta Forum in Sept. There are some Atlanta area peeps I'd like to meet face to face.

ConnorYoung · 2008-04-04, 07:17 PM

I've never been to XBiz so I can't comment on that show....

But, in regard to learning.... what I can say is that Cybernet Expo is geared entirely towards the adult Internet crowd. It doesn't cater to the video people with no Internet presence. It's owned and operated by YNOT which most of you know was there when the adult Internet was started. So this is a webmaster show completely, and seminars keep that in mind.

In terms of what James said re: value being in meeting people, we also keep THAT in mind... and gear the show towards keeping everyone in the same place as often as possible. Makes it kind of impossible NOT to do business that way.

And for people who just like to have fun... some wicked parties planned this year.

We also made sure to keep prices reasonable. The hotel we're using this year has rooms starting at $169 per night, which is considerably cheaper than any of the other shows I've attended this year. We do actually try to make sure you get ROI.

So we'd love to see any of you there... if you're interested, check out the event's website and register online.

2008-04-02, 01:28 PM	#1
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2008-04-02, 01:46 PM	#2
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2008-04-02, 02:26 PM	#3
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,688	I hear Phoenix is very very good. XBiz in the summer I hear is good and I'll be attending that one this year. Vegas Internext as well has been good. The HUGE thing is what you make the show. Arrange to meet with other webmasters and talk with sponsors you push to see what they might be able to do for you and such. The seminars are informative but a lot of it is more for newbies on many aspects. There are some that help anyone and everyone of course. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2008-04-02, 04:55 PM	#4
M.Rodriguez Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 24	Good call! Xbiz Summer Forum will be my first show and im allready excited lol __________________ 480-812-430 president[at]emperorbucks[dot]com

2008-04-02, 07:03 PM	#5
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	Xbiz summer by far. There are much more webmaster friendly seminars and it's a more user friendly venue, IMHO. But like Ramster said, it is what you make it. __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2008-04-03, 05:00 AM	#6
Casa Nova WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 46	I'm looking to go to quite a few this year and start to hone my skills and learn a lot from the seminars and the people there. Xbiz will be my big one that I hope to take away alot. __________________ SlickCash Chris@\|NO SPAM\|SlickCash.com ICQ 405009573

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2008-04-03, 02:46 PM	#8
HotwivesOnline Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blogosphere. Posts: 28	I'm thinking about attending the XBIZ Summer conference this year because I've heard good things about it also. I wish I could have gone to the Phoenix Forum this year. I've been to several Internext shows in Vegas over the years and have never really been too thrilled. I think they put more emphasis on the trade show, and not as much on the sessions. The trade show is great for networking, but I want to learn something in the seminars too. __________________ Allie's husband David Here's my blog at Hot Wife Allie \| Since Sept. 2004

2008-04-03, 03:16 PM	#9
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2008-04-04, 08:39 AM	#10
James_HotMovies Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 127	None of the shows are that great for learning. What they are good for is making connections. Many seminars are full of people trying to sell the end webmasters on their products. If you want to meet good people and make connections I'd recommend smaller shows. If you want to party I'd recommend the larger shows. There are too many shows currently. I attended every show for a few years and didn't have enough time in the office to work on deals. I now only go to ones that are local, Internext in Florida, and 1 or 2 in LA. I do send Monica and/or Kevin to all the shows. I've heard good things about xbiz in Vegas, but I'll never go to Vegas in the summer.

2008-04-04, 09:02 AM	#12
James_HotMovies Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 127	Whenever I speak on a panel I make a point to actually teach something and give the others a heard time. If you ever see me listed on one you should go for the learning/comedic value a well.

2008-04-04, 11:07 AM	#14
James_HotMovies Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 127	so true, I spend a lot of time trying to break away from the cliques, but you really can't. You end up being a victim to your popularity. That's why I hire new people and give them rules on splitting up and spreading out.

2008-04-04, 03:50 PM	#15
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	Over the years I think Ive seen more learning at Cybernet Expo than anything I have attended. I agree typically panels have been more about people attempting to sell you some thing and a lot less on actual information. I saw Hammer at each of these things break out a group of his clients and non clients and spend the afternoon exchaging ideas for FREE. Granted he is a consultant as am I but he isthe only one Ive ever seen to attempt to use one of those shows as a learning vehicle for free for anyone that was interested.

2008-04-04, 05:22 PM	#16
LAJ A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Austin Posts: 56	Until you have been to ALL of the shows, it's not fair to chime in with who's "the best". Hey docholly... been to cybernet expo? Hey Score Cash... Xbiz forum is 2 big shows away. __________________ Retain Attorney Eric Bernstein jay at ynot dot com

2008-04-04, 05:35 PM	#17
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Best show? That's one of those things that will vary individually, but FWIW, Cybernet Expo in June is the only upcoming show I'll be attending. I'm also strongly considering the new Atlanta Forum in Sept. There are some Atlanta area peeps I'd like to meet face to face. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2008-04-04, 07:17 PM	#18
ConnorYoung Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	I've never been to XBiz so I can't comment on that show.... But, in regard to learning.... what I can say is that Cybernet Expo is geared entirely towards the adult Internet crowd. It doesn't cater to the video people with no Internet presence. It's owned and operated by YNOT which most of you know was there when the adult Internet was started. So this is a webmaster show completely, and seminars keep that in mind. In terms of what James said re: value being in meeting people, we also keep THAT in mind... and gear the show towards keeping everyone in the same place as often as possible. Makes it kind of impossible NOT to do business that way. And for people who just like to have fun... some wicked parties planned this year. We also made sure to keep prices reasonable. The hotel we're using this year has rooms starting at $169 per night, which is considerably cheaper than any of the other shows I've attended this year. We do actually try to make sure you get ROI. So we'd love to see any of you there... if you're interested, check out the event's website and register online.