what the fuck PA

Mike-mijen · 2008-04-24, 01:02 PM

This was just posted on PA Webmaster board:....

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while going through my weekly venture in the contributors forum i found this message from igor on Voyeurweb

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We were informed November 2007 by Visa and Mastercard that they want the 2257 info for every website hosted at the PA central office. Of course that is not a feasible thing...and our legal dept jumped on it. So far without any luck. Around 8 weeks ago the entire PA operation was given away to a 3rd party. How do they run their merchant accounts? No idea! We negotiated a grace period: If we are able to re-instate merchant accounts for PA operations will be returned to the company who used to run PA. So far no luck. In other words: PA already separated regarding ownership but is still logically tied to VW and RC (through GWS and RRC). The logical link might be removed very soon. It all depends on how the 3rd party decides on their future plans with PA and on any cooperation with us or not.

This is all I know about this whole thing. Due to my ongoing rehab I am not in a condition to deal with this situation myself...sorry. Whenever I hear news about this subject I will post it right here.

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They have known this since Nov and has never past it on to anyone thats with PA

. Payments have been running month late for a couple of months now.
I am looking for a new home. I have 8 sites and 2 large ones. If any one has an Idea I am listening. I use my own content and don't have the bucks for my own Merchant account.
Mike

Greenguy · 2008-04-24, 01:11 PM

I'll show my ignorance....who's PA?

Mike-mijen · 2008-04-24, 01:16 PM

PROADULT

Greenguy · 2008-04-24, 01:51 PM

Ahhh, the joys of AVS

Mike-mijen · 2008-04-24, 05:23 PM

Just heard from John on the board and he is not sure why that was posted and said nothing has changed. Phew....

993TT · 2008-04-24, 05:51 PM

I still get my rebill payouts from Proadult and have not promoted them in 5 years.

docholly · 2008-04-24, 06:28 PM

LMAO.. when I saw this title.. i thought it was referring to the PA primary last tuesday.

Mike-mijen · 2008-04-24, 06:57 PM

Still trying to figure out what is really going on. Time will tell.
Peace Mike

LAJ · 2008-04-28, 10:12 AM

Damn... and here I thought was my perfect opportunity to refer to PA as Pittsburgh on one side, Philly on the other and Alabama in between.

stuveltje · 2008-04-28, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

I'll show my ignorance....who's PA?

i was thinking the same , because pa is the word we use in holland to name your dad

GenXer · 2008-05-12, 11:49 PM

Lmao I thought P.A. was a nickname personally, since one of my best friends is P>A. for Phillip Allen :-)

Tanker · 2008-05-13, 12:45 AM

I could not have guessed who PA was

Toby · 2008-07-06, 12:14 AM

What's the current situation? I see some drama over at the zoo re: ProAdult owing a bunch of people money, many of them in 5-figures.

SheepGuy · 2008-07-06, 01:17 AM

They are toast as far as I can figure, and they owe me a lot of money, though not 5 figures. If you count future rebills though it's a fuckova lot more and I'd be surprised if some wm's don't lose 6 figures..
I'm losing more proportionately than I did when AC fucked everyone.
They've even removed their wm forum.

Simon · 2008-07-06, 07:59 AM

Damn, that really sucks, SheepGuy (and Mike).

You know, I'm wondering if AVN sites are still good risks -- worth putting time into developing and updating -- considering how much $$$ can be lost all at once when a company like AC or PA changes policies, changes hands, or closes down.

Tomas-R · 2008-07-06, 10:35 AM

bad news..

King dead - salute king!

Welcome to

SirMoby · 2008-07-06, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LAJ

Damn... and here I thought was my perfect opportunity to refer to PA as Pittsburgh on one side, Philly on the other and Alabama in between.

That's one of the bests descriptions of PA I've ever heard.

SheepGuy · 2008-07-06, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomas-R

bad news..

King dead - salute king!

Welcome to AE

While they certainly have an interesting "Regards Programm" I think I'll pass.

SheepGuy · 2008-07-06, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

Damn, that really sucks, SheepGuy (and Mike).

You know, I'm wondering if AVN sites are still good risks -- worth putting time into developing and updating -- considering how much $$$ can be lost all at once when a company like AC or PA changes policies, changes hands, or closes down.

Aaah sure they are, remember when IBill went tits up? Shit happens in all areas of this business. Also, it takes me only slightly more time to build an AVS site than a free site, and the advertising inside is just as profitable.
Moving an AVS site from one company to another is not a big deal time-wise either, though moving 135 of them is taking me some time

This whole thing will actually work out to my advantage. PA didn't allow advertising inside their sites as much as the two companies I'm switching their sites over to, NetVerifier and CyberAge, so in a couple of months I'll be back to normal and after that I should be making more money than I was before all of this shit happened.

RedCherry · 2008-07-06, 03:53 PM

I do VERY well with CyberAge, and a bit less with Net Verifier. I swapped out all my join form for all my sites from PA (which were mirrors of sites on CyberAge) back to CyberAge.

To me, CyberAge really invests a lot of time and money with their models, and content, I don't see them going away any time soon. I'd be

if they did, because I'd say a good 1/3 of my adult income is from my sites with them.

Mike-mijen, I'd suggest either Net Verifier or CyberAge. Net Verifier pays better, but I convert CyberAge better. So it is a toss-up on which does better.

tigermom · 2008-07-08, 03:45 AM

Sheepguy, where will you be moving them to? I only have 2-3 sites with them, so maybe to Cyberage, where I already have an account. This sucks, I hate having to mess with old sites

Fonz · 2008-07-08, 04:02 AM

Time to move my 1 premium site I have so far to cyberage it seems.

I had a little network of AVS sites in mind so maybe this development comes right on time.

SheepGuy · 2008-07-08, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

Sheepguy, where will you be moving them to? I only have 2-3 sites with them, so maybe to Cyberage, where I already have an account. This sucks, I hate having to mess with old sites

I'm moving about two thirds to NetVerifier, the rest to CyberAge. I like NetVerifier simply because they pay better and my sites convert a little better with them. RedCherry does better with CA though, and both are good outfits. NV has a deal on for new webmasters though where they give you 100% payouts for the first 60 days so if I didn't have an account there I would get one. It's also a very good idea to mirror your sites with different AVS's.

NY Jester · 2008-07-08, 06:44 PM

Yeah thats gotta be a real bitch SG (and Mike) - hope you cna get all straightened out. Sucks when you put good faith in a service and they dry hump your ass till you bleed.

Ronzo · 2008-07-09, 03:31 PM

With tube sites being all the rage, I can't imagine that AVS sites might still do that well.

2008-04-24, 01:11 PM	#2
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2008-04-24, 01:51 PM	#4
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2008-04-24, 05:23 PM	#5
Mike-mijen What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fla Posts: 995	Just heard Just heard from John on the board and he is not sure why that was posted and said nothing has changed. Phew....

2008-04-24, 05:51 PM	#6
993TT Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 20	I still get my rebill payouts from Proadult and have not promoted them in 5 years. __________________ NUBILES.net/webmasters Icq 143674274

2008-04-24, 06:28 PM	#7
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	LMAO.. when I saw this title.. i thought it was referring to the PA primary last tuesday. __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2008-04-24, 01:16 PM	#3
Mike-mijen What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fla Posts: 995	PROADULT

2008-04-24, 06:57 PM	#8
Mike-mijen What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fla Posts: 995	Not Sure Still trying to figure out what is really going on. Time will tell. Peace Mike

2008-04-28, 10:12 AM	#9
LAJ A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Austin Posts: 56	Damn... and here I thought was my perfect opportunity to refer to PA as Pittsburgh on one side, Philly on the other and Alabama in between. __________________ Retain Attorney Eric Bernstein jay at ynot dot com

2008-05-12, 11:49 PM	#11
GenXer Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The U.S.A Posts: 267	Lmao I thought P.A. was a nickname personally, since one of my best friends is P>A. for Phillip Allen :-) __________________ Top Adult Writing Services icq 375-089-597

2008-05-13, 12:45 AM	#12
Tanker I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 84	I could not have guessed who PA was __________________ Kickstart your webmaster program

2008-07-06, 12:14 AM	#13
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2008-07-06, 01:17 AM	#14
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	They are toast as far as I can figure, and they owe me a lot of money, though not 5 figures. If you count future rebills though it's a fuckova lot more and I'd be surprised if some wm's don't lose 6 figures.. I'm losing more proportionately than I did when AC fucked everyone. They've even removed their wm forum. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2008-07-06, 07:59 AM	#15
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	Damn, that really sucks, SheepGuy (and Mike). You know, I'm wondering if AVN sites are still good risks -- worth putting time into developing and updating -- considering how much $$$ can be lost all at once when a company like AC or PA changes policies, changes hands, or closes down. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2008-07-06, 10:35 AM	#16
Tomas-R Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 71	bad news.. King dead - salute king! Welcome to

2008-07-06, 03:53 PM	#20
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	I do VERY well with CyberAge, and a bit less with Net Verifier. I swapped out all my join form for all my sites from PA (which were mirrors of sites on CyberAge) back to CyberAge. To me, CyberAge really invests a lot of time and money with their models, and content, I don't see them going away any time soon. I'd be if they did, because I'd say a good 1/3 of my adult income is from my sites with them. Mike-mijen, I'd suggest either Net Verifier or CyberAge. Net Verifier pays better, but I convert CyberAge better. So it is a toss-up on which does better. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2008-07-08, 03:45 AM	#21
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Sheepguy, where will you be moving them to? I only have 2-3 sites with them, so maybe to Cyberage, where I already have an account. This sucks, I hate having to mess with old sites __________________ XLEF

2008-07-08, 04:02 AM	#22
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	Time to move my 1 premium site I have so far to cyberage it seems. I had a little network of AVS sites in mind so maybe this development comes right on time. __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2008-07-08, 06:44 PM	#24
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	Yeah thats gotta be a real bitch SG (and Mike) - hope you cna get all straightened out. Sucks when you put good faith in a service and they dry hump your ass till you bleed. __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2008-07-09, 03:31 PM	#25
Ronzo WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 40	With tube sites being all the rage, I can't imagine that AVS sites might still do that well.