Free advertising for paysite owners :)

[john0pr0n0]

Hello everyone

Working on a new project, as always, and need some paysite owners to work with.
Any of these niche's will do - Babes / Models / Pornstars / Teens / Amateurs / Panty / Lingerie / Solo models / Non nude / Blowjobs / Hardcore / Things like this.

What i need:

I need to hot link your videos, from your gallery pages. It will eat up a fair bit of bandwidth, so your giong to need a fast box to keep up.

Now this is only giong to work if your videos are water marked, other wise their will be nothing in it for you.

We CAN water mark your videos for you, although you are giong to need to pay for that service.

Some people might say, what is the purpose of this? How are people giong to find and pay for my site, if i dont have 10 pages of promotional material blasting at them every minute.

Well here is a tip guys - If you have quality - niche targeted ORIGINAL content - you will make sales, from people viewing your video, finding it intreresting, and TYPING IN your website directly.

Not only this, but once your videos are released like this, you will continue to gain targeted FREE traffic, basicly for the lifetime of your site.

How does this work? People share your videos with other surfers who share the same tastes. This is great becuase its free advertising, and it will continue for as long as your videos are out there, which with a bit of work can basicly be forever.

What you get:

Free advertising, no affiliates to pay, it only costs you some bandwidth.

Long term advertising - users will pass your videos around, and provide free targeted users direct to your website, basicly for the life time of your site.

Not only this, but if users dont even buy into your site, you have still created awarness about it, just as you would with a free hosted gallery or something similar.

I think thats a fair enough deal, your paying your affils right now 50% of your sales, why not spend 10% of that in bandwidth, and gain new users automaticly over time?

Also! If any paysite owners can dedicate a box or 2, could be some great advertising for you in exchange, i wont go into details here, just contact me.

ICQ: 192 367 315 - Best way to contact me, i prefer to talk to people direct.

Or you can email me here - johnpr0n@yahoo.com

One last note! - If your running one of those stock standard sites - with content everyone has - This wont work, dont even try

But if you have a quality, original site, with original niche content - This will work very well indeed, to bring a continued flow of targeted traffic to your site - for free.

[RawAlex]

So you want paysite owners to give up their content for free, hoping that someone MIGHT read the watermark and come to the site?

Wouldn't a DRM solution be better? Have the content time out after a day or two, so it doesn't go far?

What logic would have a paysite owner giving you a hotlink to all their stuff?

I am confused!

Alex

[john0pr0n0]

Im glad someone mentioned DRM

Can i ask, do any of you web masters actualy surf for porn?

Do you actualy know the ways people buy into a site?

YOU DONT ALWAYS NEED TO PLASTER THE SURFER WITH ADVERTISING - YOUR QUALITY CONTENT IS YOUR ADVERTISING!

I can tell you, not only from experience in surfing sites myself, but from freinds, gallery hosting is not the only way to advertise your site.

If you have 100% original content - for example an exclusive crissy moran photo shoot or something along those lines, of course you will make sales.

How many people have posted to newsgroups, kazaa and other file sharing networks? Ive heard many web masters say this method can generate sales. - And your not showing them your wonderful sales material there are you?

Not only this:

Think about this - You downloaded some video - the best you have ever seen? Do you realy give a fuck what the advertising says?

I would like to suggest no.

And again, people will be passing your videos around for free, generating traffic daily.

So yea i think this is worth it, your saving the money on paying the affilate fee's, and providing another way for surfers to see what you have to offer.

Another note on DRM - And all types of forced traffic realy. Yes the user will have your website opened up with DRM - But if they realy wanted to go there, they would, they dont need to be forced.

Thats another good point - Why are people forcing people to thier sites, its a waste of bandwidth if you ask me, i made more sales last month from 2k clicked traffic then a freind did with 500k of forced UJC traffic...

Funny bout that huh.

[Mishi]

Unreal.

Hey, paysite owners - I have a great deal for you - let me plaster your content all over Kazaa - I promise it'll be awesome for you! Oh, but give it to me, first. You can trust me, 'cause I'll give you a reliable, generic free email address where you can contact me any time I feel like hearing from you.

Is everybody in?

[john0pr0n0]

Haha.. i was wondering what took the flamers so long...

Good one m8, your post count is +1 - you must know what your talking about to have time to post shit like that.

Edit: Oh and about the email, you plaster your real email everywhere? Hah, i guess you have enough time to filter through all that too...

[frankthetank]

I can´t see the advantage for a paysite. Where is the advertising? Watermark on clips doesn´t really seem to me very useful.

I want to sell porn, not give it away. Maybe the content is spread all over the net this way, but I highly doubt there will be any sales.

[john0pr0n0]

Ok thats a fair enough comment frankthetank. Please - comments and ideas are welcome - just not little kids flaming!

A surfer on kazaa for example (this wasnt actualy where i was planning on releasing your videos - but lets go with this) who see's your video, and likes it, there is a very good chance he will at least look at your site.

Your giong to need original content - stock standard pornstar vids wont do a thing.

Example: www.whorgies.com

Nice site - original content. Place a few short videos on kazaa - i am certain you would generate sales from this. Where else are you giong to find videos of this nature? If someone likes something like this - What do you think the ratio of surfers viewing the video would be hitting up the site?

I would like to suggest a good amount. And once you have released it? What does it cost? Not a cent. People will pass it around for you, and tell thier freinds. Word of mouth is one of the best sources advertising in the world, no matter the industry.

Who has actualy done something like this to promote thier own paysite? I have heard many web masters mention this, how about some feedback on that?

Basicly what i am trying to say here - gallery advertising is not the only way to promote your paysite. If you have quality - niche targeted - original content - You simply need to show it to someone - A picture is worth a thousand words guys.

You can rant on about how you have 1 billion pics and vids and how your site is the best in the world - or you can simply show them what you have to offer. By no means quit your standard gallery advertising - its proven and it works.

BUT.. this is just another cheap way to advertise what you have to offer, outside tgp trafifc. Tgp traffic is shit anyways - This way you can hit new sectors of traffic, easily and with little workload from yourself.

No one can see the benefit in that?

Who has done something along these lines, what was your results?

[john0pr0n0]

Simple example:

I have found vids on kazaa - liked them - and checked the site out. I have asked a few freinds, who have also done the same.

Simple.

[Greenguy]

I used to use this marketing strategy back in 1997 with Newsgroups

[SirMoby]

I'll puchase 2 new computers for you so that you can give away my entire member's area for free. Just send an email to my free Yahoo emaill address areyoufuckingnuts@yahoo.com

The Kazaa and Newsgroup surfers that I know never pay for DVDs, Music or porn. They will spend money on DVD burners, joiners and other things but they never pay for any Audio/Video content. They have a different mind set and enjoy getting somethign for free even if it costs them money on equipment.

Of course sales will be made using your approach but I can also make sales by turning my pay sites into free sites and asking people to send nickles. I'll make sales but I won't be able to feed my family.

This is a very funny thread

[frankthetank]

Originally posted by Greenguy
I used to use this marketing strategy back in 1997 with Newsgroups

Those were the good old days.|afro|

Newsgroup visitors nowadays are smart enough to hotlink promo content. I´m registered in some yahoo groups which are created for a porn actress living in austria. Surfers take gigs of bandwidth grabbing free content there, nearly no sales at all - some just remove the reseller ID to galleries.

You can spread teasing content, but today too much content is for free on the net.

[frankthetank]

Originally posted by john0pr0n0
Simple example:

I have found vids on kazaa - liked them - and checked the site out. I have asked a few freinds, who have also done the same.

Simple.

OK, but did somebody sign up? If you provide high quality exclusive content, there are high costs to pay before you even get one membership. So I would try to keep the content exclusive.

And if your content becomes "public domain", I´m afraid it will end in less paid memberships.

[Porn Meister]

People should always watermark their content in every case where it's permitted.
On another note, if I had some marketing idea that I personally believed in and had data to back my presentation, I'd approach some sponsors myself. Some may be willing to test drive it on a small scale.

[Useless]

Originally posted by john0pr0n0
Haha.. i was wondering what took the flamers so long...

Good one m8, your post count is +1 - you must know what your talking about to have time to post shit like that.

Edit: Oh and about the email, you plaster your real email everywhere? Hah, i guess you have enough time to filter through all that too...

Is this how you intend drawing in advertisers? Is this you being professional?

Mishi's post is not a flame. It's a very fair criticism of your marketing plan. Being bold enough to state the obvious is not flaming. Make another attack like that again and I will show you flaming. If you can't take the heat...

All TGPs and links lists already perform this service by listing sponsors' FHGs and HFSs. Yes, we do this because we get paid for sales produced, but we are the ones funneling the traffic to them. Traffic costs money.

Why would sponsors allow you to hotlink videos and images without a clickable link to their sites? You mentioned that the surfer would have to type in the url. Why not put up the proper links associated the content?

About the yahoo email address. Most of us won't accept submissions from folks with free email addresses. They tend to be cheaters. Most sponsors won't allow an affiliate to sign-up with their program with free email addresses because they tend to be surfers just looking for free access to more porn. A 'real' email addy adds legitimacy and accountability to the person. So, if you want to be taken seriously, act like your serious.

[GonZo]

Just incase anyone is confused by tis guys name.

He has no affiliation with the "family" or the resource in any way shape or form.

Green guy is right I used this idea along with the blur on newsgroups and Kazzaa years ago.

[Jim]

GonZo, I'm glad you mentioned that. Looking quick, I did think it was an Oprano thing.

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by Jim
...Looking quick, I did think it was an Oprano thing.

I thought it was an Oprano thing because of the yahoo email addy

[john0pr0n0]

Haha, small brained people.

I give up.. keep the thread giong tho, yall can increase your post counts by 1 or 2 !!!

[john0pr0n0]

And yea i understand about the yahoo email.

But fuck i run 3 different business's - im not giong to hand out my real emails to be harvested for mailing lists. I already have a couple of others getting about 30 spam mails a day.

Anyways whatever, give it time guys. Looks like everyone is sheep, so i guess you need someone to follow.

[Useless]

Good-bye then.

(add +1 to my post tally)

[RawAlex]

I want another post too! Would you hit it?



Alex

[john0pr0n0]

+1 for me.

[john0pr0n0]

haha.. exactly alex.

yea id hit it

[john0pr0n0]

Sorry Greenguy i did not see your reply - i thought it was more idea bashing hehe.

You mentioned you used this type of idea with newsgroups back in 1997 - What were your results m8?

I have heard many web masters mention this.. i would be interested to know how it went?

[venturi]

Hey, john0pr0n0...

I've got a sweet Plan for you...
PHASE I:
- I'll invest upwards of $100,000 to build a paysite that will retain members consistently for at least 6 months.
- Next, I'll create an area where anybody and their mother can download exclusive content from the member area for free.
- Then, I'll do something original and encourage every fucking surfer on the net to spam my Original and Exclusive content on Kazzaa, the newsgroups and via email spam!

PHASE II:
????

PHASE III:
HUGE PROFITS!!!

Yes, I am a disciple of the "Underwear Gnomes" business guides.