Redirecting of foreign traffic?

Mr. Blue · 2005-02-13, 07:31 AM

Well, I have a series of questions regarding this, lol, so be patient. I was checking my weblogs for the day and I notice I'm getting a lot of traffic from countries which stands a snowball's chance in hell of ever signing up for a membership anywhere. This and the fact that they're chewing up bandwidth at a rate where I can't exactly afford to be the UN and friendly to all nations. Examples (just three examples there's more):

Russia (1,500 visitors a day)
Czechia (1,500 visitors a day)
China (300 visitors)

They roughly are using around a gig of bandwidth a day. So here's the questions:

1. If I redirect these countries to another page will it get me banned from link lists and tgps?

2. What does everyone else do with this traffic?

3. Is this just something I have to take as a write off as doing business?

swedguy · 2005-02-13, 08:32 AM

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1. If I redirect these countries to another page will it get me banned from link lists and tgps?

Remember that link list and TGP owners are not only from North America. If you redirect a russian LL owner that is reviewing your sites/galleries he will most likely blacklist you and if he's using a shared blacklist, then it was probably not worth it just to save 50 cents for that 1 gig of traffic.

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2. What does everyone else do with this traffic?

Let them be. Once they go to a sponsor, then you can do what you want.

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3. Is this just something I have to take as a write off as doing business?

It's a part of doing business over the Internet. Internet isn't just for people with a CC.

Ramster · 2005-02-13, 09:24 AM

You will get banned everywhere. Remember that some webmasters that own sites LIVE in those countries.

1 gig a day is 30 gigs a month. That's nothing really. What? $15? $30 a month. Cost of doing business. You have to take the bad with the good.

Mr. Blue · 2005-02-13, 10:20 AM

Okay, was just wondering if there was something that I would be missing out on. I do know that a few Russian TGP's which I didn't submit to, did pickup my pages from elsewhere, but considering the nature of blacklisting, etc, I guess I won't even bother with that...just wanted to make sure

MadMax · 2005-02-13, 12:54 PM

There are some sponsors, like Sex Money, who are based in Europe, specialize in European traffic and automatically detect browser language on their paysites and display the paysite in the surfers language where available. That way you're not redirecting anyone, and a Non-US LL or TGP owner will still end up at the sponsor they clicked on if they're checking, just in their own language. They also have some billing options that are particular to EU traffic, so you have a better chance of converting that traffic. If you've got a ton of this type of traffic you may want to consider either them or a sponsor like them.

In any case, it's a decision you need to make on your own based on YOUR traffic, and I agree that you DEFINITELY do not want to redirect surfers directly off of galleries or free sites. That will get you banned in a heartbeat.

BlueQuartz · 2005-02-14, 07:30 PM

good post Max

best thing you can do is get that type of traffic off your freee sites/hubs and send them straight to hell lol

the golden rule is never do anything on your freesites - use a little link that sends them to another one of your sites then do what ya want with em.

all the best...

Mr. Blue · 2005-02-15, 01:39 PM

I decided to just up my webhosting package and stop thinking about the 30 or so gigs a month these places are going to take from me.

You'll start to hear me complaining again if I come close to using up my 170 gig a month package, lol.

GeorgeTH · 2005-02-15, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

Okay, was just wondering if there was something that I would be missing out on. I do know that a few Russian TGP's which I didn't submit to, did pickup my pages from elsewhere, but considering the nature of blacklisting, etc, I guess I won't even bother with that...just wanted to make sure

Now that's a different story! I tend to add these sites individually to my htaccess and redirect them.
After all: I didn't submit to them, and if they blacklist me it won't hurt too much, since I don't want their traffic anyhow (and most likely not from their trading partners either).

I usually check out the site first, see what they're doing with their traffic (e.g. their trades, too many lolida style links, opening galleries in frames, forcing dialers upon surfers, etc.) and if I don't like what I find then they get re-directed...

Mr. Blue · 2005-02-15, 08:51 PM

lol, I get a little nervous redirecting as I don't who these people are affiliated with...i.e. seems like people share blacklists and if I shut off a place like Devil.ru would I get blacklisted at places that had apparently no connection with them, but happened to share a blacklist list, lol.

<---Too much of a noob to take chances.

2005-02-13, 07:31 AM	#1
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Redirecting of foreign traffic? Well, I have a series of questions regarding this, lol, so be patient. I was checking my weblogs for the day and I notice I'm getting a lot of traffic from countries which stands a snowball's chance in hell of ever signing up for a membership anywhere. This and the fact that they're chewing up bandwidth at a rate where I can't exactly afford to be the UN and friendly to all nations. Examples (just three examples there's more): Russia (1,500 visitors a day) Czechia (1,500 visitors a day) China (300 visitors) They roughly are using around a gig of bandwidth a day. So here's the questions: 1. If I redirect these countries to another page will it get me banned from link lists and tgps? 2. What does everyone else do with this traffic? 3. Is this just something I have to take as a write off as doing business?

2005-02-13, 09:24 AM	#3
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,688	You will get banned everywhere. Remember that some webmasters that own sites LIVE in those countries. 1 gig a day is 30 gigs a month. That's nothing really. What? $15? $30 a month. Cost of doing business. You have to take the bad with the good. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-02-13, 12:54 PM	#5
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	There are some sponsors, like Sex Money, who are based in Europe, specialize in European traffic and automatically detect browser language on their paysites and display the paysite in the surfers language where available. That way you're not redirecting anyone, and a Non-US LL or TGP owner will still end up at the sponsor they clicked on if they're checking, just in their own language. They also have some billing options that are particular to EU traffic, so you have a better chance of converting that traffic. If you've got a ton of this type of traffic you may want to consider either them or a sponsor like them. In any case, it's a decision you need to make on your own based on YOUR traffic, and I agree that you DEFINITELY do not want to redirect surfers directly off of galleries or free sites. That will get you banned in a heartbeat. Last edited by MadMax; 2005-02-13 at 12:57 PM..

2005-02-14, 07:30 PM	#6
BlueQuartz The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 175	good post Max best thing you can do is get that type of traffic off your freee sites/hubs and send them straight to hell lol the golden rule is never do anything on your freesites - use a little link that sends them to another one of your sites then do what ya want with em. all the best... __________________ THE BIGGEST LIST OF EPASSPORTE SPONSORS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN

2005-02-13, 10:20 AM	#4
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Okay, was just wondering if there was something that I would be missing out on. I do know that a few Russian TGP's which I didn't submit to, did pickup my pages from elsewhere, but considering the nature of blacklisting, etc, I guess I won't even bother with that...just wanted to make sure

2005-02-15, 01:39 PM	#7
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	I decided to just up my webhosting package and stop thinking about the 30 or so gigs a month these places are going to take from me. You'll start to hear me complaining again if I come close to using up my 170 gig a month package, lol.

2005-02-15, 08:51 PM	#9
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	lol, I get a little nervous redirecting as I don't who these people are affiliated with...i.e. seems like people share blacklists and if I shut off a place like Devil.ru would I get blacklisted at places that had apparently no connection with them, but happened to share a blacklist list, lol. <---Too much of a noob to take chances.