The irony...IT BURNS

[domweb]

I just had to explain to a Management Recruiter for Northrop Grumman that I can't let him send my resume to the really HIGH FUCKING PAYING 40 HOUR A WEEK job because I would need to pass a full Department of Defense Security Clearance.

*giggle* *pained gasp* *giggle* *hilarious pain*

He couldn't understand why I was insisting that I wouldn't pass a DOD background check since I have no criminal record. Didn't I want the 85K+ a year job working for the Government Defense Contractor?

I explained using a few choice words. Strippers, porn sites and a lifestyle that will make their hair test machines light up like a small sun.

To which he laughed his ass off and thanked me for giving him the heads up.

Me. Working for the Man.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by domweb

Me. Working for the Man.

Yeah, that's how I feel too.

Altho I also have philosophical and ethical reasons not to work for the corporations.

Ethical objections. More fool I, I suppose.

[Pagan]

uh.. last I heard, there was nothing illegal in most areas with what you are doing. AND, a lot of the top customers in the strip joints ARE defense contractors. I don't hide what I do, but I sure don't advertise it either. I always have a stable of mainstream sites to show off. I had one VP tell me that as long as I broke no local laws OR violated their code of conduct while I am on the clock, it is none of the company's business. And, yes, we do government contract work. It just doesn't require security clearances.

[raymor]

I've been doing this for thirteen years and I passed the DoD background check,
getting a security clearance so we can work on government systems. You might
have been just fine had you kept your mouth shut.

[nate]

If you are into strippers, porn and that evil plant (or the hashtastic extract thereof) that once made me seriously ponder whether I should be peeing in the sink instead of the urinal, you just skip the bureaucrat part and head straight for politics where a blowjob isnt really sex and Argentina is where you go to fuck to family friends.

[jacklynlick]

I don't think the porn is such a problem. The hair testing would be. Although, Bush was an alleged cocaine user, and he still had no problem being president.

Jax

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by jacklynlick

I don't think the porn is such a problem. The hair testing would be.

I would have to shave my head.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by jacklynlick

I don't think the porn is such a problem. The hair testing would be.

No one ever tested my hair.

You are better off being a normal person who is willing to admit to his/her minor vices when going for a security clearance than you are being squeaky clean. Trust me.

[domweb]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I would have to shave my head.

And that doesn't always work. As a professional contracting engineer (when I had a job) who has been fooling one to three drug screens a year for fifteen years, let me share my experience.

If you are every subjected to a hair test, the stuff the test is looking for is embedded in the hair follicle at a deeper level than the skin.

I know this from talking with a few friendly dealers who have been around for a while. Sometimes a person who is due for a court ordered drug screen will shave everything...head, body and even eyebrows trying to dodge the test. (This is apparently a big ploy with coke heads...and coke is evil...trust me...watched it chew up several people).

The judge orders them held over in a cell for a few days on contempt of court charges until the hair grows back enough for testing. The chemical signature is still readable from the first bit of hair that was growing under the skin and that you can't shave all off the first time.

So....you can shave your head...but you would have to wait several days and do it all over again.

However, getting James Bond on a piss test is easier as long as the matter is not a testing ordered by the Criminal Justice system. I have yet to be busted.

Originally Posted by raymor

I've been doing this for thirteen years and I passed the DoD background check, getting a security clearance so we can work on government systems. You might have been just fine had you kept your mouth shut.

Maybe I could have passed that DoD Security Clearance check. But I don't like the idea of the DoD knocking on to my neighbor's doors and checking my associations (which I was warned was coming). And I don't like someone making moral judgements as to whether I would sell my government's secrets to a third party based on who I hang out with, how I party and who I fuck, have fucked or am trying to fuck.

I don't do anything that would get me locked up...but the thought of being that closely scrutinized by the Powers That Be is something I will only do if I have NO other options.

Now excuse me please...my tinfoil hat is on crooked.

[MeatPounder]

LOL, when I got my clearance 20 yrs ago to do some work at the old Pease air force base in NH, they interviewed old classmates, teachers, neighbors, employers, etc

[SheepGuy]

A friend of mine offered to get me a slack part time job with Pinkertons about 25 years ago, all I had to do was pass their security checks.
My buddy calls me up and says I failed, I asked him why, he sez "Because you're a communist, I didn't know you were a communist?"
I told him I was not and have never been a member of the communist party, but that I was an anarchist. He sez "Oh well, that must be it then. "
Somehow I don't think any sort of job requiring a security clearance is in my future even if there were no drug tests. I've been bonded before and handled millions of dollars of other peoples cash, I can legally own long guns, but my politics mean I'll never be a security guard

[Bill]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

but that I was an anarchist.

Way to go, man.

Fuck the corps and the submissive straights.