Is There Money In Mobile

[T Pat]

I've been wondering about getting in mobile is it worth the effort?
Care to share your resources and results?

[bluebrit]

I have wondered the same but have never gone further than a little investigating sometime back.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by T Pat

Is There Money In Mobile...

I drove through Mobile on the way to and from Atlanta last Sept. Seemed to me like there was some money there.










Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity.

When I think about mobile I keep asking myself, "Do people really surf porn on their cell phones?" I've yet to get a good quantitative answer to that question.

[Cleo]

With over 30 million iPhones sold so far it would seem that there would be a market.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Cleo

With over 30 million iPhones sold so far it would seem that there would be a market.

Exactly. Add in the users of other G3 capable phones and the number of potential users more than doubles. That's why you keep seeing the mobile porn question asked. But so far I've not seen any answers from anyone I'd consider credible.

[Hotmodeltease]

Hi Guys & Gals
I saw a documentary the other night on porn and mobile porn is huge in Europe
but almost nothing in North America due to the phone companies regulations.

you can find more detailed info http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/docz...mic/index.html

[hashbury]

Originally Posted by T Pat

I've been wondering about getting in mobile is it worth the effort?
Care to share your resources and results?

Yes getting into mobile is worth it.
My conversion ratios for my regular affiliate programs are around 1:3000
and my mobile conversion rate is around 1:700.

Most sales i see now a days are from my iphone sites. Mobile is not just limited to phones though. You have psp, ipod, zune, and all kinds of other portable devices. Its a bigger market share than what most people think. I tend to target iphone users because my thinking is if you have 250 or 300$ to spend on a phone along with a 100$ month plan, you can spend 30$ a month on a porn membership without thinking twice. Also the keyword term iphone porn has been increasing in searches ever since i started in the mobile biz.
One of the biggest misconceptions i come across, webmasters think they need to devlope websites with a wap format. As the smartphone market increases there are less and less users that come from wap enabled phones. In europe this may be a diferent story but for the US this holds true for the figures i see.
Going the mobile route can be as simple as building a blog advertising one of the many mobile devices out there.

[blogman]

There is no money in mobile.
my 2cc
http://www.thereisnomoneyinporn.com/tinmip_guy.jpg

[ArtWilliams]

I don't know but I do have a few thoughts.

In my opinion, there are a number of stumbling blocks:

- With no SMS billing in North America, the surfer has to use a credit card which is less likely with a cell phone browser. Some phone browsers don't even have secured connections for CC transactions. Having to use a PC browser first cuts down on impulse buying which we know are a lot of our sales.

- There doesn't appear to be standard for hardware and software (screen size, file format support, javascript support) so you can make sites that would look great on one phone and are useless on another. As Cleo said there are 3M iPhones so maybe specializing in one phone type might work.

- Most smartphones today support media cards. A porn consumer may just load some movies and pics on his/her media card and slip it into their phone thereby bypassing the porn purchase through the cell phone.

My 2c.

[MeatPounder]

Mobile porn is great!!

You don't have to take magazines to the office restrooms anymore

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

Mobile porn is great!!

You don't have to take magazines to the office restrooms anymore

And phones vibrate.

[pc]

Originally Posted by Cleo

And phones vibrate.

Somebody should start making iCondoms
undeveloped niche ?

[NY Jester]

I have to say there seems to be a HUGE Blackberry craze going on around here. So add that to what Cleo stated the numbers for iPhone are 30 Mil. I have to think between all the G3 network phones its a good niche. I think the real question I have is how do you promote it?

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by hashbury

Yes getting into mobile is worth it.
My conversion ratios for my regular affiliate programs are around 1:3000
and my mobile conversion rate is around 1:700.
Most sales i see now a days are from my iphone sites.

hashbury are the sites you use to get traffic regular web sites or are they mobile sites?
Are the majority of your sign ups done from a computer or from a mobile device?
Care to share what traffic generating techniques you have tried and what worked and what didn't?

[hashbury]

All my sites are regular sites, no "mobile sites"
Most of my signups come from iphones, blackberrys, and ipods, but i do get a few signups from comps here and there.
My best traffic producing method is by using a main blog to feed a bunch of little niche blogs on there own domains.
Various tgps (such as the hun) are starting to accecpt mp4 formats.
I have also seen very good results from webmasters using mobile link directories where everyone submits their mobile sites.
To get started in mobile i would suggest targeting a device that can display regular html.
I go after psp, iphone, ipod, and blackberry. Although some older blackberrys seem to have problems with sign up forms.
You should have mobile traffic going to your sites right now, just check your stats. Having one link to a mobile porn site on all your sites can turn those users into sales.
I do have a little bit of inside know how in mobile, and i will tell you our biggest sellers are blogs (I will actually be introducing some hosted iphone rss feeds for my company soon).
One other thing, The mobile market isnt over populated with webmasters, So it is easier to make sales and get ranked for good mobile keywords.
If you have any more questions or need any help, Just Let Me Know.

[JK]

I've made a few bucks from portable porn, nothing major, but I think there is a future for it. I use my phone more and more for surfing when I'm not near a PC.

Wordpress Mobile is a great plugin which makes your blogs mobile friendly.

[dunc]

Which sponsors do mobile porn?

I know topbucks did a ipod porn not long ago... but this seems to have been dis-countinued... Netverifier also have a mobile pron program... any others?

[JK]

I still make a few sales to Sex Movies on Pod from TopBucks.

AEBN has Xobile.com, CECash and ARS both have mobile sites.

[T Pat]

this should be most of the mobile sites

[dunc]

Thanks - I have a stoopid mobi domain lying around... might aswell give it a go

[Gausche]

You can earn good money with mobile porn.

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by Gausche

You can earn good money with mobile porn.

Hey Gausche I'm assuming you posted in this thread because your looking for affiliates.
I know for a fact that hashbury got 2 or more new affiliates yesterday, if you had maned up like hashbury and given some useful information you would be getting 2 or more new affiliates today

[bDok]

naughty america has a mobile porn. Not that I'm promoting it, but saw that the other day. At least for the iPhone that is.

[Gausche]

Originally Posted by T Pat

Hey Gausche I'm assuming you posted in this thread because your looking for affiliates.
I know for a fact that hashbury got 2 or more new affiliates yesterday, if you had maned up like hashbury and given some useful information you would be getting 2 or more new affiliates today

I didn't post in this thread looking for affiliates, I was merely answering your original thread title asking "Is there money in mobile?", which there is.

We are not currently looking for affiliates as the ones we do have were by invite only.

Now onto resources: ready.mobi is a good place to test your mobile sites and if you are into wordpress as many here obviously are, then you should check out http://mobiforge.com/running/story/t...ss-mobile-pack

[amadman]

It has been awhile since i did anything online

But this thread has made me consider trying a small mobile site myself.

I am wondering about traffic sources though.

Are there places that will link to mobile sites?

Or maybe people here that have mobile sites and are willing to set up trades?