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Old 2007-04-20, 01:11 AM   #1
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Moving Recip Links To Main Page?

Maybe a dumb question, but if google is starting to recognize recip links on the index page of freesites, has anyone thought of allowing the recip tables on the main page?

That is, if google recognizes a direct link exchange from the link list page to the index and the link back as a recip, would moving the recip to a non directly link to page, such as the main page, keep from possibly receiving penalties?

This could lead to less traffic going back to link lists also.

What are thoughts on this. I know many say don't worry about se's this much and just build, but what are other thoughts.

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Old 2007-04-20, 01:19 AM   #2
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In the mid to late '90's we use to put recips on the main page...
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Old 2007-04-20, 01:24 AM   #3
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The only down sides i could think would be less pr returned possibly from not being on the index page. Possibly less traffic coming back from not being on the index.
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Old 2007-04-20, 02:06 AM   #4
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No LL owner would want their recip link on main pages. It has been a rule for quite some time to not submit doorway pages like enter.html. It has to do with seo and the weight of index.html compared to somedoorway.html. When we start to see all the linklists dropping of google we might want to change this but not now.
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I wasn't suggesting a doorway. I was saying that a site would submit an index page, be linked to it, but have the recip table on the main page not on a doorway. by main i mean the page showing gallery 1, gallery 2 etc., not a page called main.html used as a doorway.

I understand then that the PR from the links would go to the index page, but don't understand what you mean with doorways in this instance.
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Having a link on index.html is worth more than having a link on main.html, the same main that links to gallery 1 & 2.
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Old 2007-04-20, 02:46 AM   #7
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Ok yeah, thats the same thing that i was thinking and mentioned above. Could a main page recip link still be worth more if there are ever tightening constraints on recip links. If penalties become more frequent and harsher for direct and obvious index recips?
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Ok yeah, thats the same thing that i was thinking and mentioned above. Could a main page recip link still be worth more if there are ever tightening constraints on recip links. If penalties become more frequent and harsher for direct and obvious index recips?
Yes, that's possible, but I'm not going to worry about that yet.
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I believe most of the larger Linklists still allow links from inside the free site instead of putting them on the warning page - there are NO larger link lists that I know of that require recips to be on the warning page and require the warning page to be named index - thats something only smaller uneducated newbies do
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I guess some of the bigger lists now require the recip to be on the warning page - although Im not sure when that got changed?
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I guess some of the bigger lists now require the recip to be on the warning page - although Im not sure when that got changed?
I assume that goes along with them wanting the recips to be found before the enter link.

Also, I'm not sure who started demanding the submitted page to be named index. I guess it was someone who thought that a page named 'index' has some higher value than one named 'keyword,' even though free sites are often found 2, 3, or 4 subdirectories deep.
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I think they wanted index because a few demand to be on "the actual index" to the freesite. So using porn.html or something similar won't be listed because it may or may not be the true index.

This is one of the reasons why i keep the submit list low, because i used 2 doorway pages to the same freesite like i used to do in the past and had trouble being accepted with a few sites that sent good traffic.

Now i use no doorways and actual index to the folder with no drop downs and get accepted without fail.

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You must submit the index page of your site in "Site URL" field, no doorway pages.
Our reciprocal link must be placed on visible place, above "enter" link on index page.
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Im not sure when they changed. I hadn't built a freesite or anything to do with link lists since about 2001, so i don't know when PR got so important to people, when category recips started, when freesites started having to be index with no doorways or any of it.

I'm gonna have to search the forums to find out everything i missed.
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Old 2007-04-21, 06:34 AM   #14
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UW - we always said that "if" the recip was on the warning page it had to be above the enter page - at least thats the way I always remembered it
My rules still have the old wording:
"8. If you link to us from the page we are linking to, do not put the link under your "enter" button.
The link back DOES NOT have to be on the 1st page, but if it is, it has to be above the enter link"
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