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View Poll Results: The new 2257 regulations go in effect in less than a month. My question is: What are | |||
I’m getting out of the business. | 1 | 1.56% | |
I am feverishly trying to get my records in order. | 4 | 6.25% | |
I am beefing up my 2257 statement, but realize trying to get a model ID for every graphic on my site is impossible. | 6 | 9.38% | |
I am renouncing my citizenship to the US and moving offshore. | 0 | 0% | |
I am moving my company, servers, and banking offshore. | 1 | 1.56% | |
I am moving my company offshore. | 0 | 0% | |
I am censoring all of my content. | 2 | 3.13% | |
I am doing nothing, I am doing nothing. | 15 | 23.44% | |
I live outside the US. This does not affect me. | 20 | 31.25% | |
I am hoping Bush gets out of office and this all dies down. | 15 | 23.44% | |
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2004-08-03, 11:06 AM | #76 |
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!
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I don't think you are getting the point. Democrats were the ones leading the charge then and the Republicans are the ones leading it now. Regardless of who is in office they will sell you down the river in a heart beat if it means they will get a few more votes next election or gain some power in congress.
Reno fought tooth and nail against the ACLU over this, all you have to do is a search for keywords copa and janet reno and you will find numerous case dockets and articles. We are basically fucked regardless of the political party. Republicans are conservative and Democrats are only liberals on the surface when it might get them votes. I say fuck them all and VOTE GREEN GUY FOR PRESIDENT! |
2004-08-03, 11:15 AM | #77 |
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try this search
"porn prosecutions janet reno" most results call Reno and Clinton friends of Porn and talk about how prosecutions halted under them..... |
2004-08-03, 11:27 AM | #78 |
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OK, I will give you that(although most of those sites with articles are very conservative).
I still find it hard to call any politician a friend. I am doing a write in vote for Green Guy anyway =) |
2004-08-03, 11:31 AM | #79 | |
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Green Guy would be the best choice.... but Kerry would be better than Bush... (the lesser of two evils) |
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2004-08-03, 11:40 AM | #80 | |
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For those of you that are Bush apologists, here is something to keep in mind before you vote republican again: The Supreme Court justices that voted to rule COPA unconsitutional were Democratic appointees, whereas the judges that supported COPA are right-wing extremists that the GOP appointed. |
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2004-08-03, 12:19 PM | #81 |
Took the hint.
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Every time someone says "don't vote democrat, they aren't friends of porn either" I have to laugh.
Republicans BY DEFINIITION are against porn. They have a whole christian religeous core group that just flips over porn. Neither side is a "friend" of porn... the republicans are enemies, that is for sure. The democrats are "neutral to not happy" about porn. It's easy to see which side will try to screw you out of business. Alex |
2004-08-03, 01:21 PM | #82 |
Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk
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Jay Glad ya posted this I just wish more spons would let us Know Exactly what they are doing about this so we all arent running around like a goose with his head up his ass when its time to get all the stuff in order.
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2004-08-03, 03:25 PM | #83 | |
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Where does candidate GreenGuy stand on foreign affairs? Is it truly an affair if she doesn't speak English? |
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2004-08-03, 06:34 PM | #84 | |
Took the hint.
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2004-08-03, 09:46 PM | #85 | |
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2004-08-03, 09:59 PM | #86 | |
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2004-08-03, 10:39 PM | #87 | |
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2004-08-04, 12:31 AM | #88 | |
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Does the industry really was to re-shape it's whole business model? It may have to.
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2004-08-04, 01:25 AM | #89 |
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Jay,
Anything to share with what you discussed with the lawyer? |
2004-08-04, 02:04 AM | #90 | |
Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove!
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2004-08-04, 10:24 AM | #91 | |
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Sponsors don't want to spook affiliates. |
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2004-08-04, 11:39 AM | #92 |
Took the hint.
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When it comes to things like banners and such, you start getting into the legal "never never land" of "paid promotional space", and are you in fact a publisher of the banner or are you merely using provided promotional materials in return for payment?
Sponsor hosted galleries are a no brainer, you are not the publisher, they are. Sponsor content would, normally, require a full model release to be used. I think that single model programs (like lightspeed, example) might be VERY hesitant to let their models real names and info loose on the net. The personal security issues and rights to privacy far outweigh the 2257 records requirements. So far I have not seen or heard about any of the great legal minds looking at it from the privacy side of things. I am sure someone has, just haven't seen it yet. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Alex |
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I presume many of them are waiting to see what the final language of 2257 looks like after the comment period ends before deciding on a policy/strategy. Of course, that means affiliates won't have any lead time at all. As usual. |pissed| |
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2004-08-04, 08:11 PM | #94 | |
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If the crackdown does come - it will be interesting to see how affiliate programs will be surviving without affiliates.
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2004-08-04, 08:23 PM | #95 | |
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Given how totally "every entity for itself" the industry was, and still is, over Acacia, I don't see a remote possibility for any effective industry counteraction. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, though. |
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2004-08-05, 05:26 PM | #96 |
Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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How does sponsor banners work out with 2257?
Do we just list our sponsors as the custodian of record on the 2257 page? |
2004-08-06, 04:36 AM | #97 | |
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The DOJ (by law) is not even allowed to READ the comments till after 8/24. Aftter that they have it has to be considered. If they just ignore this (or even give that impression) -- the 1st amendmant guys will take action by way of a suit against the goverment. It is their world and we are just living in it, but never underestimate the top legal minds in the US. They are not working for the DOJ...they are driving expensive cars in Beverly Hills and they work for us.
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2004-08-06, 10:23 AM | #98 | |
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If it is totally totally softcore (look at lassiter & xxxjay's posts) then you don't need 2257. If the banner isn't softcore then under the new rules (unless they change them) you have to have the 2257 info and have it avail. for inspection. lassiter, xxxjay chime in if you think I'm wrong... but this is what my Lawyer said.... |
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2004-08-06, 01:54 PM | #99 | |
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2004-08-06, 02:15 PM | #100 | |
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(2) ''sexually explicit conduct'' means actual or simulated - (A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; (B) bestiality; (C) masturbation; (D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or (E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person; HOWEVER, Sec. 2257, even under the proposed new language, exempts both simulated sexual activity, and Subsection (E) of the above definitions. (h) As used in this section - (1) the term ''actual sexually explicit conduct'' means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through (D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title; So I'm told that pussy is ok as long as nothing is going into it. And "simulated" masturbation and hardcore are also exempt, though that is where it gets tricky, since you may not want to try to make the case that it was really simulated and not actual. Best to avoid any penetration of anything by anything. |
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