AVN Wants Me On The Traffic Panel In Vegas....Even Though They Have No Idea Who I Am.

[Greenguy]

I shit you not.

Someone hit me up on ICQ about possibly being on the Traffic Panel at Internext In Vegas.

I grunted a lot & asked who was on the panel:

XXXJay - good choice IMHO

Q'On - great guy, but I've never known him to be a big "traffic" kinda webmaster & I hope I don't offend anyone, but it'd be like me being on a panel marketing ebony sites.

Johnny V? (from wildline) - did a search on Board Tracker for "wildline" & the only result was this person being on the last Traffic Panel in Miami & a link to an article on YNOT about that panel with some really obvious observations. Seems to be a broker, so the reply to any & all traffic questions would be "You can buy it."

"Name Withheld To Protect The Innocent" who does run a Link List & would be a good choice for a Traffic Panel.

Moderator: Mike Hawk from Smash Bucks, who has told me in no small terms that he does not like the policies of this board

So I thinking about it...basically a free pass for an hour of my time.

I have no idea how many seminars there are, but the cost to AVN is the room for 2 days, since there's no actual money given to the speakers. It costs Joe Blow Webmaster $80 to attend the seminars. I'd really love to know how many people paid for the seminars minus the cost of the room

So then it dawns on me to ask for money...and passes! $1000 & 4 passes - this would cover The Bitch & me as well as the MaryLou's.

SO I ask for the email addy for the guy that's running this stuff so I can see what I can get out of it. I'm told:
I had the original quote up here, but the person that realyed the info to me asked me to remove it, so I will just say that AVN contacted one person about being on the traffic panel. That person recommended my contact. My contact recomended me.

The long & short of it is that AVN is looking for people to be on this Traffic Panel & asking for advice on panelists because they have no idea who to put on this panel.

Isn't this one of the beefs we have with AVN?

NO ONE AT AVN KNOWS WHO THE FUCK ANY OF US ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(don't even get me started on the stats part of that, as I guess I was 5th on a list of 4)

I did this panel in 2003 (I think) an it consisted of me, Traffic Dude (see wildline), SE Guru (great guy - all about the SE's & a lot of paid ad spots) and Aly (who I love & was still with Python & really had no idea why she was on the panel

So should I feel insulted?

Should I suck it up & ask for the $1k & 4 passes?

You decide - VOTE NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[furrygirl]

Take the money and passes. A free trip to Vegas is a nice way to soothe a bruised ego.

[Torn Rose]

Fuck them

[Trev]

I picked the money and passes, just because I want to hear what they say.

[Surfn]

Take the passes and when you get to Vegas tell 'em to fuck off. They will remember you after that

[Greenguy]

Remember - they didn't offer me the money & the passes...that's what I'm thinking of asking for from the people that do no know who I am, but do know they want me on the panel

[Jim]

I say the same thing fuck them. Just get the media pass and sleep in. And think about what time they have these things. And the worst part is that AVN has no idea who anyone is. Probably why most times these seminars suck. Back when there was a choice of a show floor without seminar pass, that's what I always went for

[Greenguy]

This seminar is supposed to be in the afternoon of the 1st day, so the time isn't really a factor (plus I'm not drinking, so there will be no hang-overs anyway)

And they did go back to offering just the floor pass & the floor pass with seminars - hence the $80 difference.

[Dr Bizzaro]

I say ask for the money and passes and give 2 of the passes to me.
I'll come to the seminar and standup and clap and whistle after everything you say.

They'll know who you are after that.

[adamneve]

I say go for it, i'll come and listen to this one for sure

[Cleo]

Eat lots of beans and sit on the panel

[Cyndalie]

I did it once in FL in 2003 and will never do it again. The traffic panel was a success but never again will I give up that much knowledge to so many paying attendees for free, plus the videos of it they were selling PPV online. There's just no incentive to do so. If they want to learn from you GreenGuy, have them come here where in doing so, they support you as well. We all simply work too hard to give it to AVN for free.

[selena]

Two words


Fuck 'em

[Greenguy]

I have to apologize to everyone because I had to edit my original post so that my contact doesn't rock any boats.

The original post with a quote made the problem that I was bitching about a lot clearer.

I feel that now I just look like a rambling ass.

[spookyx]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Take the passes and when you get to Vegas tell 'em to fuck off. They will remember you after that

|halfgabbo

wow, that reply gets my vote! and a 4 greenguy post rating"

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Dr Bizzaro

...I'll come to the seminar and standup and clap and whistle after everything you say.

They'll know who you are after that.

OH! That thought had crossed my mind - get as many people as I can to get seminar passes, have them show up with big signs & hoot & cheer every time my name is mentioned

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

This seminar is supposed to be in the afternoon of the 1st day, so the time isn't really a factor (plus I'm not drinking, so there will be no hang-overs anyway)

And they did go back to offering just the floor pass & the floor pass with seminars - hence the $80 difference.

Still, an hour that you could be napping, gambling or just farting to sit on a panel for people that don't know you.

I don't know, if you can get something from it, maybe think about it but...AVN still sucks. Definitely don't do it for free.

So, what happened to having to pay for the all in one package? Did they actually listen to the webmasters about that?

[docholly]

At MINIMUM it should be free passes and 1k.

I do these events all the time.. and NO one does them for free. and most organizations that run the trade shows know who all the players are.

I did 1.5 hours on a panel for CEA last month and made over 2k plus special treatment -room, complete access to all seminars/dinners etc and a 'travel stipend' but since I'm in Vegas they gave me the cash equivalent instead.

Fuck make it 2k for your years in the business and 6 passes (2 for you, 2 for the MML's and 2 for tart & I).

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I feel that now I just look like a rambling ass.

Welcome to my world.

I really dig free stuff, so that part of me wants to say take the passes and run, but the stronger and darker side of me, the side known for making all of my wonderful business decisions, is stomping and screaming "FUCK THE COCKSUCKERS - SET THEIR DOGS ON FIRE!!!" So, there you have it. (Keep in mind, I'll probably have a completely different and wholey random opinion in another ten minutes or so.)

[SirMoby]

Once you accept something for being on the panel then you have to be on the panel. You know your integrity won't allow you to skip out so you'll end up going and might be unhappy about it. Just make sure that what you accept for doing it is really a good exchange for your time in Vegas.

[Greenguy]

SirMoby - I know it was suggested in this thread, but I'd never say yes to the panel & then back out once I got there just to fuck them over in my own little way - not really my style

[SirMoby]

Wasn't Q'On the guy that made the post promoting NATs and bashing a shitload of good sponsors? It might be fun just to see what's next.

[MrMaryLou]

Go for it

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

SirMoby - I know it was suggested in this thread, but I'd never say yes to the panel & then back out once I got there just to fuck them over in my own little way - not really my style

I didn't think you actually would.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

SirMoby - I know it was suggested in this thread, but I'd never say yes to the panel & then back out once I got there just to fuck them over in my own little way - not really my style

That's why you need to figure out if $1,000 is really worth it. Here you are sitting at a table taking all of Ramster's cash and then you have to go to the traffic thing.