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2005-02-26, 11:32 PM | #1 |
Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Anyone here switched hosts before?
Was hosting with a buddy of mine off a reseller account he has. Was a shared IP, knew that, but they don't allow adult sites, didn't know that (booo).
Is there ANYTHING worse than switching hosts? I actually think that moving the information is not too bad, I can probably get that done in like a day or less. However, on this new host I've been waiting for like EVER for my DNS entry to resolve. Shouldn't this take just a couple hours at most? What's the worst case scenario I'm looking at here?
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2005-02-26, 11:37 PM | #2 |
Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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In some cases it can take 24-48 hours. Good luck!
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2005-02-26, 11:38 PM | #3 |
Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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Brent,
There are things that could be done to reduce the time to update the dns, but generally it takes between 24-72 hours to update. And yes, migrating hosts can be a very trying experience at times. Drizzt http://www.powerstorm.net |
2005-02-26, 11:52 PM | #4 |
Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Ahhhh, that was my greatest fear. It's funny. These days someone could probably deploy another Internet in 24-48 hours, but we can't even get a DNS record to resolve, hehe. Is Forrest Gump running these entries back and forth or something?
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2005-02-26, 11:58 PM | #5 | |
Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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2005-02-27, 12:06 AM | #6 | |
Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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2005-02-27, 12:09 AM | #7 |
Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it?
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The main dns servers on the net refresh in about 30 minutes. The problem is the cache at the ISP dns servers which is why it takes 24-72 hours. Sometime in the future the service providers will join the rest of us in the 21st century |pcwins|
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2005-02-27, 12:12 AM | #8 | |
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2005-02-27, 12:15 AM | #9 |
Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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If the domain is the same domain in your sig, then your new host didn't setup the domain correctly. This is pretty ugly.
; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> +trace THUMBOMETER.COM ;; global options: printcmd . 150482 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150482 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 436 bytes from 24.196.64.39#53(24.196.64.39) in 83 ms COM. 172800 IN NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. COM. 172800 IN NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 505 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 77 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 172800 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 172800 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 192.52.178.30#53(K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET) in 140 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 47 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 51 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 42 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 49 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 39 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 43 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154880 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 49 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 44 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154879 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 41 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 50 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 40 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 46 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 48 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 39 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 47 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154878 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 46 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 46 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 46 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 44 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 47 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.185#53(ns1.selectedsex.COM) in 45 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 40 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 40 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. ;; Received 113 bytes from 66.230.167.186#53(ns2.selectedsex.COM) in 39 ms THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns1.selectedsex.COM. THUMBOMETER.COM. 154877 IN NS ns2.selectedsex.COM. dig: Too many lookups |
2005-02-27, 12:17 AM | #10 |
Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip!
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it's actually pretty easy to switch hosts as long as it is planned out. just put up "down for maintenance" on your old host while DNS bounces back and forth. i have had DNS switch in less than 5 minutes with godaddy. of course it bounced back and forth for a few hours.
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2005-02-27, 12:17 AM | #11 |
Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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A domain setup correctly would look something like this.
; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> +trace hosthead.com ;; global options: printcmd . 150266 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 150266 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 436 bytes from 24.196.64.39#53(24.196.64.39) in 29 ms com. 172800 IN NS A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. com. 172800 IN NS M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 502 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 76 ms hosthead.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.hosthead.com. hosthead.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.hosthead.com. ;; Received 98 bytes from 192.5.6.30#53(A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET) in 69 ms hosthead.com. 3600 IN A 8.9.32.46 hosthead.com. 3600 IN NS ns2.hosthead.com. hosthead.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.hosthead.com. ;; Received 114 bytes from 8.9.32.45#53(ns1.hosthead.com) in 44 ms |
2005-02-27, 12:38 AM | #12 |
Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless
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Thanks TwinTone, does look ugly right now. I've been using DNSReport.com to check out the status and I saw that the glue was still listed as my old host for most of the day, but that seems cleared up now. So maybe it's just a matter of clearing up a little more. I'll sleep on it and hopefully will have it all resolved by morning.
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2005-02-27, 12:39 AM | #13 | |
Whoo! 9/10 the way to buddy plays in "The Christ from Oz"!
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2005-02-27, 01:27 AM | #14 | |
Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer.
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The best thing to do is copy the data, make sure your scripts work, change the DNS and don't make any changes for 72 hours. Your new sites need to be exact duplicates of your old until the DNS cache is cleared every where and you don't have full control over that. |
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2005-02-27, 08:07 AM | #15 |
The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep
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You could use htaccess to redirect everything form the old host to the new one until the dns propagates - I think this is all you have to do:
Redirect / http://66.115.135.176/ (of course replacing your IP with the one I have i there) This way, at least you're not 404'ing & loosing all your traffic |
2005-02-27, 08:57 AM | #16 |
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!
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Got this virus from the link in your sig. Thumbometer.com.
Whats that all about. JS/Exploit-MhtRedir.ldr |
2005-02-27, 06:56 PM | #17 |
Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove!
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Yes, you can switch hosts and have it resolving properly around the world in less than 30 minutes, its easy! All you have to do is use Advanced DNS or Total DNS at your registrar (godaddy, enom resellers and many others offer this service for free) or use zoneedit to keep total control over your DNS. That way when you switch hosts, all you have to do is update the IP addresses of your A & MX records, and since this is not a change to your nameservers (ns1/ns2) you don't have to worry about the DNS replication 72 hour cycle.
cheers, Luke
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2005-02-28, 08:47 PM | #18 | |
Don't let a programmer design your front-end pages!
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Even as a newbie I got to learn this little trick quickly... Before I used to put a meta-refresh to numeric IP on all pages - but that gets you blacklisted with everybody running scanner scripts (eg. LL and TGP submissions).
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2005-03-01, 11:04 AM | #19 | |
Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer.
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2005-03-01, 11:14 AM | #20 |
You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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I think I would rather have my teeth knocked out than deal with switching hosts.. I have always had bad experiences.
For example, I am currently moving my paysites from Swiftwill and I asked them for a root dump of my mysql database .. easy enough I thought, but apparently not the case. Even though it is my server I am not allowed to request a root dump, nor am I allowed shell access ... sound fishy to you? I bet it is. I have never had a problem with them till now.. whats up with that? Anyway good luck on the server move thumbometer. |
2005-03-01, 12:12 PM | #21 |
A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one!
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I moved hosts 11 months ago and saved a bundle while getting far superior service too!
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Think of it this way - they're gonna get blacklisted anyway for the 404's - that's a given. This way, at least they keep some of the traffic & the sites are open & when we run the Link Bot, we do try to look for things like this & then hold off on removing the sites. |
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2005-03-01, 09:09 PM | #24 |
Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove!
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you know part of the job of the hosting company is making sure they help you out with your initial setup and move....It seems from these posts that there are a lot of hosts out there that do not believe in top notch service like I do!
cheers, Luke
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2005-03-01, 09:26 PM | #25 |
Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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It's really a pain, but if you have to do it, the sooner the better..
The more scripts you have running the worst the nightmare will be..O, and CCBill and your other processors will have to config again.. |
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