Is this normal???

troy · 2009-03-09, 12:41 PM

I normally let it slip but now I get really worried.
I am sending around 10.000 yahoo search hits I get on a porn picture to one site. From Januari till now I got 5577 first page hits with 3419 trailer views and not one sale???

Note this is a well known sponsor who use to convert at 1/800 now I am at 1 /11423.

I can't understand why people are clicking the link of which they know they are going to a pay site but don't flip out the credit card.

Is this due to the crisis or what or is this an example of extreme shaving?

HowlingWulf · 2009-03-09, 01:37 PM

I don't think anything is normal in this biz.
For what it's worth my ratios took a massive dump in the last 10 days, about 80% off.

Cleo · 2009-03-09, 01:50 PM

Nothing is normal right now.

plateman · 2009-03-09, 02:20 PM

very true, I am not getting any sales and rebills are dropping like a rock, been a horible 8 or 9 days in the sales department

Mateusz · 2009-03-09, 03:13 PM

You mean yahoo image traffic or just yahoo traffic?
Assuming not many sponsor show trailer views I guess I'm sending some of my yahoo image traffic to the same sponsor you do
Since January I sent 21355 hits which resulted in 20129 trailer views and 5 sales (1:1,875/join page hits) Its acturally better ratio I had since Sept 2008 - Jan 2009 (1:2,483 /join page hits)

So yes.. that kind of traffic sucks but you still get a sale every now and then, so its better to have it than not

carol.prime · 2009-03-09, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

Nothing is normal right now.

Yeah, crisis really affects our lives. This is so sad but true.

hashbury · 2009-03-09, 04:42 PM

I blame it all on outsourcing.

winstonDeecash · 2009-03-09, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashbury

I blame it all on outsourcing.

bDok · 2009-03-10, 01:54 AM

It's the times. It completely sucks right now. I will say it really has forced me to get my ass in gear on a lot of projects that I have had in my mind for awhile.

With all this work once times turn around should see a nice bump.

Tommy · 2009-03-10, 08:01 PM

More then likely when you see a huge drop off in conversions like that....its something personal

the sponsor probably seen you bad mouthing them on one of the boards or took something on your site the wrong way

MeatPounder · 2009-03-10, 08:35 PM

My question would be, are you comparing apples to oranges?

In other words, when you were converting at 1/800 were you sending the hits the same way (10.000 yahoo search hits I get on a porn picture to one site), and are you sending them to the same page at the sponsor...or was the traffic you were sending from different sources when you had the 1/800 ratio (freesites, galleries, etc) and to different sponsors tours?

Greenguy · 2009-03-11, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by carol.prime

Yeah, crisis really affects our lives. This is so sad but true.

New profile text for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

More then likely when you see a huge drop off in conversions like that....its something personal

the sponsor probably seen you bad mouthing them on one of the boards or took something on your site the wrong way

Please don't fuck with the regulars

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy

I normally let it slip but now I get really worried.
I am sending around 10.000 yahoo search hits I get on a porn picture to one site. From Januari till now I got 5577 first page hits with 3419 trailer views and not one sale???

Note this is a well known sponsor who use to convert at 1/800 now I am at 1 /11423.

I can't understand why people are clicking the link of which they know they are going to a pay site but don't flip out the credit card.

Is this due to the crisis or what or is this an example of extreme shaving?

What is the picture of? I might have a reason for this happening.

troy · 2009-03-11, 08:43 AM

Quote:

In other words, when you were converting at 1/800 were you sending the hits the same way (10.000 yahoo search hits I get on a porn picture to one site), and are you sending them to the same page at the sponsor...or was the traffic you were sending from different sources when you had the 1/800 ratio (freesites, galleries, etc) and to different sponsors tours?

1/800 was from freesites, galleries, etc

Quote:

What is the picture of? I might have a reason for this happening.

The pic is of a girl taking it in the ass.

Greenguy · 2009-03-11, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy

The pic is of a girl taking it in the ass.

Is it a famous pornstar? What terms are they using to find the pic?

troy · 2009-03-11, 11:42 AM

No it's not a famous pornstar.

Awstats gives anal and anal sex as main key words but those are not the numbers that I get on the pic page. So I find it hard to tell how they get there in such numbers. It might be because awstats don't show yahoo images results.

Greenguy · 2009-03-11, 04:12 PM

Well, my theory is out the window - I officially have no idea why it's not converting.

InfoGuy · 2009-03-11, 06:44 PM

Are you sure that it's Yahoo traffic and not a bot hitting that page or someone hotlinking to it? Have you looked at the referrers in your raw logs?

troy · 2009-03-12, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Are you sure that it's Yahoo traffic and not a bot hitting that page or someone hotlinking to it? Have you looked at the referrers in your raw logs?

I don't see a bot that comes close to the amount of hits I get to that page. I have hotlink protection plus it must be surfers because of the amount of tour page hits and trailer views.

Quote:

You mean yahoo image traffic or just yahoo traffic?
Assuming not many sponsor show trailer views I guess I'm sending some of my yahoo image traffic to the same sponsor you do
Since January I sent 21355 hits which resulted in 20129 trailer views and 5 sales (1:1,875/join page hits) Its acturally better ratio I had since Sept 2008 - Jan 2009 (1:2,483 /join page hits)

So yes.. that kind of traffic sucks but you still get a sale every now and then, so its better to have it than not

I think Mateusz is right together with the constructed and planned crisis.

Thank you all for the support

kickass · 2009-03-18, 04:59 PM

It could probably just be the crisis, though that rate is surprisingly low if you have that many search hits.

petergg2 · 2009-03-20, 07:13 PM

since about 1 month I get more traffic but less sales

I have now some sponsor's ratio extreme low,
eg. on Nasty$ I make only 10-20% of what I have 1-2 months ago

for my luck by many other's conversion is only a bit lower than usual

traffic amount/source is the same or even higher ...

troy · 2009-03-21, 05:20 AM

Jeah it really sucks Peter.
Lets hope it get any better soon. I gues everybodys balls are bursting and they will start to pay for some good porn again.

2009-03-09, 12:41 PM	#1
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2009-03-09, 01:37 PM	#2
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2009-03-09, 01:50 PM	#3
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2009-03-09, 02:20 PM	#4
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	very true, I am not getting any sales and rebills are dropping like a rock, been a horible 8 or 9 days in the sales department __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here Last edited by plateman; 2009-03-09 at 02:22 PM..

2009-03-09, 04:42 PM	#7
hashbury My name is hashbury not assburry Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,125	I blame it all on outsourcing. __________________ Sig Goes Here!

2009-03-09, 03:13 PM	#5
Mateusz Screw you, guys. I'm going home. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gliwice, Poland Posts: 996	You mean yahoo image traffic or just yahoo traffic? Assuming not many sponsor show trailer views I guess I'm sending some of my yahoo image traffic to the same sponsor you do Since January I sent 21355 hits which resulted in 20129 trailer views and 5 sales (1:1,875/join page hits) Its acturally better ratio I had since Sept 2008 - Jan 2009 (1:2,483 /join page hits) So yes.. that kind of traffic sucks but you still get a sale every now and then, so its better to have it than not

2009-03-10, 01:54 AM	#9
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2009-03-10, 08:01 PM	#10
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	More then likely when you see a huge drop off in conversions like that....its something personal the sponsor probably seen you bad mouthing them on one of the boards or took something on your site the wrong way __________________ Accepting New partners

2009-03-10, 08:35 PM	#11
MeatPounder Women might be able to fake orgasms But men can fake whole relationships Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl Posts: 2,408	My question would be, are you comparing apples to oranges? In other words, when you were converting at 1/800 were you sending the hits the same way (10.000 yahoo search hits I get on a porn picture to one site), and are you sending them to the same page at the sponsor...or was the traffic you were sending from different sources when you had the 1/800 ratio (freesites, galleries, etc) and to different sponsors tours?

2009-03-11, 11:42 AM	#15
troy I can spearhead the whole begging thing Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: nederlands Posts: 414	No it's not a famous pornstar. Awstats gives anal and anal sex as main key words but those are not the numbers that I get on the pic page. So I find it hard to tell how they get there in such numbers. It might be because awstats don't show yahoo images results. __________________ Cumshot Specialist Great Porn

2009-03-11, 04:12 PM	#16
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,781	Well, my theory is out the window - I officially have no idea why it's not converting. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2009-03-11, 06:44 PM	#17
InfoGuy I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 297	Are you sure that it's Yahoo traffic and not a bot hitting that page or someone hotlinking to it? Have you looked at the referrers in your raw logs? __________________ Free Speech Coalition \| Boycott .XXX / ICM Registry Last edited by InfoGuy; 2009-03-11 at 06:47 PM..

2009-03-18, 04:59 PM	#19
kickass Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 266	It could probably just be the crisis, though that rate is surprisingly low if you have that many search hits. __________________

2009-03-20, 07:13 PM	#20
petergg2 Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 63	since about 1 month I get more traffic but less sales I have now some sponsor's ratio extreme low, eg. on Nasty$ I make only 10-20% of what I have 1-2 months ago for my luck by many other's conversion is only a bit lower than usual traffic amount/source is the same or even higher ...

2009-03-21, 05:20 AM	#21
troy I can spearhead the whole begging thing Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: nederlands Posts: 414	Jeah it really sucks Peter. Lets hope it get any better soon. I gues everybodys balls are bursting and they will start to pay for some good porn again. __________________ Cumshot Specialist Great Porn