AEBN vs HotMovies

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by James_HotMovies

Free porn hurts us all.
But as long as it's riddled with poor service, viruses, and crappy porn it expands the market and creates more customers for us as well.

To combat free porn we need to create better sites, offer more custom service, etc.

I like to think that's what we do at Hotmovies. Give people a superior product at a reasonable rate.
Tagging, saved for later, favorites, playlists, rankings, recomendations, etc. They all give the users reasons to keep recurring for years.

Sure are a lot of free site owners on here.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Greenie

You lost me.




So your complaint is that you would not be making enough money off the streaming of movies that have made the sale of DVD's decline?

I think theres more to this story than someone wants to admit.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by GonZo

I think theres more to this story than someone wants to admit.

I am lost - I'll admit that.

I can grasp the "stolen" idea/concept issue.

I can grasp the 20-25% problem - everyone he is used to hearing their cut is at least 50% & I've always wondered why it wasn't a 33% split between the webmaster, the program & the provider - but that's just me

I can't grasp the online porn has killed dvd sales but we sell movie content to webmasters

Is it just me?

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by James_HotMovies

If you have any specific questions about Hotmovies let me know.

Hi James, I do have a couple of questions regarding your company.

1- How do you deal with non-US producers and 2257 issues? I would be breaking privacy laws here if I were inclined to send you copies of my model's id.

2- In your company's contract, there seems to be special attention paid to whether titles are exclusive or non.

IS THIS AN EXCLUSIVE OR NON-EXCLUSIVE SUBMISSION (DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE PERMISSION FROM YOU TO AIR THIS VIDEO?) SEE Terms and Conditions for Video Submissions, Section 9 BELOW FOR MORE INFORMATION.

However, section 9 seems to be about waivers and be unrelated to exclusivity.

Can you please explain the issue?

thanks in advance!

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I am lost - I'll admit that.

I can't grasp the online porn has killed dvd sales but we sell movie content to webmasters

Is it just me?

I suspect that the point he is trying to make is that it's difficult for him to sell his dvd titles to consumers @ $39.95 when the same titles can be downloaded for $2.99.

It sucks competing against yourself, but that's a choice one makes when trying to sell to consumers and to other distributers. It's similar to the situation faced by paysites having to compete against their affiliates for search engine traffic.

It sounds like Zappu is making a smart move though, holding back his titles exclusively for a year, before releasing them to other methods of distribution.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I suspect that the point he is trying to make is that it's difficult for him to sell his dvd titles to consumers @ $39.95 when the same titles can be downloaded for $2.99.

It sucks competing against yourself, but that's a choice one makes when trying to sell to consumers and to other distributers. It's similar to the situation faced by paysites having to compete against their affiliates for search engine traffic.

It sounds like Zappu is making a smart move though, holding back his titles exclusively for a year, before releasing them to other methods of distribution.

And using sites like this to market to webmasters.

[GonZo]

[quote=emmanuelle;337984]I suspect that the point he is trying to make is that it's difficult for him to sell his dvd titles to consumers @ $39.95 when the same titles can be downloaded for $2.99.

It sucks competing against yourself, but that's a choice one makes when trying to sell to consumers and to other distributers. It's similar to the situation faced by paysites having to compete against their affiliates for search engine traffic.

QUOTE]

I also have to comment on this.
I have a partnership with the guys who sell DVDs at kandipeach.com.
They have their movies in the VODs as well as a string of paysites at sexycitycash.com.

I spoke with Sinclair last week and sales have never been better as they are expanding DVD sales to europe. I think theres more to be said about effective marketing here than anything.

And Sinclair doesnt spam GG&J's or Oprano with his content for sale ads ever week either. Nor does he complain about free porn.

Im sure James from Hot Movies recognizes these movies too.

[Erin]

Hey Gonzo

If you have any questions all about AEBN please do not hesitate to contact me

EB

[drjones]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I suspect that the point he is trying to make is that it's difficult for him to sell his dvd titles to consumers @ $39.95 when the same titles can be downloaded for $2.99.

It sucks competing against yourself, but that's a choice one makes when trying to sell to consumers and to other distributers. It's similar to the situation faced by paysites having to compete against their affiliates for search engine traffic.

It sounds like Zappu is making a smart move though, holding back his titles exclusively for a year, before releasing them to other methods of distribution.

Just want to throw in my 2 cents here...

Quite honestly, as far as I know, you cannot download a full video on a VOD site for $2.99 anywhere. Video downloads are at least $19.95 on AEBN. VOD isnt as bottom-of-the-barrel cheap is it sometimes gets made out to be. VOD is competitive with the DVD markup % that most studios receive, except you only have to pay for the shipping to send the movie to your VOD provider to encode. After that its pure profit. No costs for the production of packaging, disc printing, shipping, etc.

Here at AEBN, anyways, the vast majority of customers seem to repeatedly purchase the smallest minutes packages, instead of buying one large minute package. The smaller minutes packages are about 3 times the price when looking at it by cost per minute.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Erin

Hey Gonzo

If you have any questions all about AEBN please do not hesitate to contact me

EB

DO you have any stuffed moviemonsters yet?

[Erin]

Originally Posted by GonZo

DO you have any stuffed moviemonsters yet?

OH I WISH-- SHAWN IS ON THE CASE THOUGH

[emmanuelle]

Hey you guys- quit hijacking my thread!
I'm trying to get some information here