Nice British take on 2257

tickler · 2005-06-25, 04:47 AM

They smell something fishy from all the way over there!
US rules all porn is child porn
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/us_law_2257/
I like their comment about hte Patriot Act also.

The link at bottom about stalking is also good. They do a real good job of reaming the DOJ. And some of the user comments are right on.
http://www.alternet.org/story/22289/

mrMagoo · 2005-06-25, 04:57 AM

The Canadians can see this is facist bullshit, the Europeans can see this is facist bullshit, you'd think us freedom loving, spread democracy throughtout the world Americans could grasp that.

Those are great articles and thanks for posting them.

ponyman · 2005-06-25, 05:15 AM

The Alternet article was GREAT!
This whole thing is BS. I hope we all wake up and smell the shit soon!

Jel · 2005-06-25, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyman

I hope we all wake up and smell the shit soon!

Exactly how I woke up my own family this morning

Jel · 2005-06-25, 05:27 AM

Good read there Tickler. That Annalee sure does ream the DoJ, as you say

I like the comparison with the terrorists, spot on.

tickler · 2005-06-25, 05:32 AM

There was a link off the Alternet page also worth reading.
Pretty good writeup comparing the Star Wars Republic to the current US situation. Seems George Lucas and Hayden Christensen are comparing Dubya to Chancellor Palpatine also.
http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/22284/

Vink · 2005-06-25, 05:34 AM

I'm going to print this quote from alternet on a t-shirt "First they come for the pornographers, and then they come for you."

mrMagoo · 2005-06-25, 05:45 AM

Here is an article where DOJ officials try to strong arm ISPs to retain records of our on-line activity by telling them "'You're going to have to start thinking about data retention if you don't want people to think you're soft on child porn."

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-5748649.html

Mishi · 2005-06-25, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyman

The Alternet article was GREAT!

Hell yeah it was! Everybody should read that article, and link it anywhere you can. She calls it like it is, and quite eloquently (yet, with well-deserved bitterness).

Too lazy to scroll up? READ THIS: http://www.alternet.org/story/22289/

Jim · 2005-06-25, 08:50 AM

It's not only other governments that see it as bullshit. There are a lot of US politicians that feel the same way.

It ain't gonna happen

Bill · 2005-06-25, 02:08 PM

Alternet is one of the great alternative news sources on the internet.

I always look forward to the latest email from Alternet.

Sweet article.

SirMoby · 2005-06-25, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

It's not only other governments that see it as bullshit. There are a lot of US politicians that feel the same way.

It ain't gonna happen

They're still calling it the "War on Terror". Americans will believe anything that's displayed on a TV screen

juggernaut · 2005-06-25, 04:49 PM

"In Europe, the Council of Justice and Home Affairs ministers say logs must be kept for between one and three years. One U.S. industry representative, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Justice Department is interested in at least a two-month requirement"
"A 1996 federal law called the Electronic Communication Transactional Records Act regulates data preservation. It requires Internet providers to retain any "record" in their possession for 90 days "upon the request of a governmental entity."

Why 2 months when you can already get them by making the request and its 90 days worth? I wonder what the ISP would be required to keep in the logs. I mean seriously tracking someone on a network, i dont care if its self contained or ISP is done by default. All the logs you need are already there.

tickler · 2005-06-25, 07:28 PM

God, are they ever cranking up:
Expert Says U.S. Porn Industry Feeds International Sex Trade
- Patrick Trueman of the Family Research Council
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/242005e.asp

U.S. To Deny Online Porn the Right of Free Speech
http://news.softpedia.com/news/U-S-T...ech-3726.shtml

Well a little bit of humor:
Ashcroft Gone, Justice Statues Disrobe
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...401373_pf.html

2005-06-25, 04:47 AM	#1
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2005-06-25, 05:15 AM	#3
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2005-06-25, 05:32 AM	#6
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	There was a link off the Alternet page also worth reading. Pretty good writeup comparing the Star Wars Republic to the current US situation. Seems George Lucas and Hayden Christensen are comparing Dubya to Chancellor Palpatine also. http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/22284/ __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-06-25, 07:28 PM	#14
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	God, are they ever cranking up: Expert Says U.S. Porn Industry Feeds International Sex Trade - Patrick Trueman of the Family Research Council http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/242005e.asp U.S. To Deny Online Porn the Right of Free Speech http://news.softpedia.com/news/U-S-T...ech-3726.shtml Well a little bit of humor: Ashcroft Gone, Justice Statues Disrobe http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...401373_pf.html __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-06-25, 04:57 AM	#2
mrMagoo Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 96	The Canadians can see this is facist bullshit, the Europeans can see this is facist bullshit, you'd think us freedom loving, spread democracy throughtout the world Americans could grasp that. Those are great articles and thanks for posting them.

2005-06-25, 05:27 AM	#5
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Good read there Tickler. That Annalee sure does ream the DoJ, as you say I like the comparison with the terrorists, spot on.

2005-06-25, 05:34 AM	#7
Vink Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Van Nuys CA Posts: 124	I'm going to print this quote from alternet on a t-shirt "First they come for the pornographers, and then they come for you."

2005-06-25, 05:45 AM	#8
mrMagoo Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 96	Here is an article where DOJ officials try to strong arm ISPs to retain records of our on-line activity by telling them "'You're going to have to start thinking about data retention if you don't want people to think you're soft on child porn." http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-5748649.html

2005-06-25, 08:50 AM	#10
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	It's not only other governments that see it as bullshit. There are a lot of US politicians that feel the same way. It ain't gonna happen

2005-06-25, 02:08 PM	#11
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Alternet is one of the great alternative news sources on the internet. I always look forward to the latest email from Alternet. Sweet article.

2005-06-25, 04:49 PM	#13
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	"In Europe, the Council of Justice and Home Affairs ministers say logs must be kept for between one and three years. One U.S. industry representative, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Justice Department is interested in at least a two-month requirement" "A 1996 federal law called the Electronic Communication Transactional Records Act regulates data preservation. It requires Internet providers to retain any "record" in their possession for 90 days "upon the request of a governmental entity." Why 2 months when you can already get them by making the request and its 90 days worth? I wonder what the ISP would be required to keep in the logs. I mean seriously tracking someone on a network, i dont care if its self contained or ISP is done by default. All the logs you need are already there.