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spacemanspiff · 2007-09-20, 07:45 AM

So the cops go from billy clubs and guns to tasers, and they're "out of control". I say when they come out with the "pretty please do what we say" gun, we stage a revolution.

It is a very sad state of affairs indeed. I long for the good old days when a cop would smack you in the head because you didn't answer fast enough, or beat you half to death because you were black and looked at a white woman. Those boys had some control. Not like these hot heads we have today.

Just ask the black man that served his country in WW2, came home and hopped on a bus and was told that he had to sit in the back. He said "no way. I just spent 2 years on the front lines and I'm not sitting on the back of the bus." So 4 cops cams along, beat the shit out of him and poked out his eyes. Good thing they didn't have a taser or things would have gotten really ugly.

Simon · 2007-09-20, 07:48 AM

I found it interesting that this happened on the day we mostly forgot to celebrate this year: Constitution Day. It was 220 years ago, on September 17, 1787, that the U.S. constitution was signed by 42 of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention.

Constitution Day was formerly known as Citizenship Day until 2004 when it was made "Constitution Day and Citizenship Day" by an amendment to a bill signed into law by our illustrious president George W. Bush, a man who has always shown the utmost respect and reverence for those four handwritten pages along with the first ten amendments to that document, which we call The Bill of Rights.

"We the People..."

What a concept.

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Bluey · 2007-09-20, 07:51 AM

Torn and Jennym make a few good points.

B.

jetpat · 2007-09-20, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluey

Torn and Jennym make a few good points.

B.

Yes, they do.

And I won't even tase them for not complying to my wishes

Bluey · 2007-09-20, 08:34 AM

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Yes, they do.

And I won't even tase them for not complying to my wishes

Good on you mate

B.

jennym · 2007-09-20, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jetpat

"A little shock"?? I'd hardly call 50,000 volts interrupting all the neuro-pathways of ones body "a little shock". If you've ever gotten a zap while working at home, this would be around a thousand times worse. Have you been tazed before jennym, because I went through it in training for an Executive Protection class. It doesn't hurt for just a second and you don't simply "get over it". From what I remember, it hurt like hell initially and then I hurt for a couple hours after. I looked at the vid again, and when the kid was on the ground there were like 5 officers on his back and he was subdued. THEN the order was given to zap him. Yeah, the kid was doing something for his website. Yeah, he was trying to get attention. So are the people marching down in Louisiana today. Hopefully, a little more restraint is shown there...even if you don't agree with their reasons to protest (which I don't).

I just think in the grand scheme of things a "little shock" isn't so bad. This country is getting mad out of fucking control. Ya know why? Counter-rebellion. When there were cops who were REALLY bad people rebelled as they should have, and won "the battle". Problem now is people feel they should be able to do whatever the hell they want..."fuck authority figures, I run this show". That is the attitude of young (and some old) America. So then the cops get more frustrated...people get more frustrated..and the cycle continues. Point is that getting tazered is a quick EFFECTIVE way to get control of a situation.

No I have never been tazered? Care to guess why? Because I don't fight with cops. It's called respect and this country is SERIOUSLY lacking in it. Yes there are bad cops. There are also child pornographers. Do we lump everyone together or not?? Seems people love to do the "lumping" as long as it doesn't include them.

The kid was listened to when he shouldn't have been, his mic WAS turned off...he kept yelling, he was asked to leave and refused, cops attempted to "escort" him out and he resisted more. I thought the cops were kind of patient myself. They kept "tussling' with him until he began flailing at them. At that point I think they should whack him in the head with a billy club, and tell him to shut the fuck up, pay attention, and follow orders. But...that's just me.

jetpat · 2007-09-20, 08:42 AM

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The kid was listened to when he shouldn't have been, his mic WAS turned off...he kept yelling, he was asked to leave and refused, cops attempted to "escort" him out and he resisted more. I thought the cops were kind of patient myself. They kept "tussling' with him until he began flailing at them. At that point I think they should whack him in the head with a billy club, and tell him to shut the fuck up, pay attention, and follow orders. But...that's just me.

I agree with you. He was just being an obnoxious twit at that point. He was being aggressive and unruly when they were trying to escort him from the mic. And to be a good Monday morning quarterback, the cops should have tasered him then - not when he was on the ground with 5 of them on his back. I would have had no problem with it, then.

jennym · 2007-09-20, 08:46 AM

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jennym · 2007-09-20, 08:49 AM

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I agree with you. He was just being an obnoxious twit at that point. He was being aggressive and unruly when they were trying to escort him from the mic. And to be a good Monday morning quarterback, the cops should have tasered him then - not when he was on the ground with 5 of them on his back. I would have had no problem with it, then.

I just think they were being patient. At some point they got tired of him and said comply or get tazered. It is a lot harder to cuff someone who is fighting than people realize. And again, I don't think cops should HAVE to fight with a guy just because he is being a jackass.

Anyway, I was just in an argumentative mood this morning, and figured this thread was a good one to "get it all out" in. I always enjoy a good argument...gets the blood flowing early in the day. I have lots of work to do, so I am outta here. Have a great day.

jetpat · 2007-09-20, 09:08 AM

Glad to help you get it out of your system jennym! I always enjoy a good debate. Oh, and I've seen some of the vids on my Bondage niche...it can be tough to use those handcuffs when someone is struggling!!

Ciao.

Torn Rose · 2007-09-20, 12:21 PM

I have been hit by mace (by accident), hit with a taser (at work when we started to sell them) and tear gassed (boot camp) and I must say of the 3, I will choose being tased every time. Sure it hurts like hell, but it didn’t hurt that long and there was no long term side effect for me, tear gas is nasty but disappears fast, mace just fucking sucks, nothing but time will take care of it and it takes 20+ minutes for it to disappear.

And this guy wasn’t exactly a midget, he is a good sized kid and again, he flays his arms and tries to run off and more than once, like it or not that IS resisting arrest. The video starts and shows you only what makes him look like a victim and not an instigator which was conveniently edited out.

I agree with the question, what are the cops suppose to do? Ask him over and over and over to leave and ignore everything else and just keep asking him to leave? So 1 person should be allowed to disrupt hundreds and get away with it?

HA!

People seem to think if you wear a badge, you are instantly wrong and dirty and corrupt, there are just a few bad cops and many good ones, but for all the bitching over bad cops, who wants to live in a world where there is no law enforcement at all? I have family members who are cops, so I know many police officers and by far most are honest and fair and I also knew a few dirty pricks who became cops and are still dirty ass pricks but now they have a badge, so I know dirty cops as well.

I stand by my first post; I am on the cop’s side 100% in this case, he was asked to stop, he was asked to leave, he was being escorted out, he resisted, he tried to run, he screamed and cried and begged and he got arrested.

Now the 83 year old woman who was thrown to the sidewalk and handcuffed over a lawn that she refused to water is a different story….

bluemoney · 2007-09-20, 09:05 PM

I agree with Torn on this one.

jetpat · 2007-09-20, 09:44 PM

Me, too. That woman simply didn't water her lawn. That's nothing to get thrown to the sidewalk and cuffed for.

Unless she lived next door, then it just brings my property value down.

jennym · 2007-09-21, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jetpat

Me, too. That woman simply didn't water her lawn. That's nothing to get thrown to the sidewalk and cuffed for.

Unless she lived next door, then it just brings my property value down.

Simon · 2007-09-21, 08:19 AM

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Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
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spacemanspiff · 2007-09-21, 10:05 AM

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Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
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Torn Rose · 2007-09-21, 11:41 AM

Looks like another student got the attention she was wanting.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3634458

Too bad for her she wasn't as lucky to just get tased and I bet she will have about 15-20 to think about how great her "art" really is.

"She's extremely lucky she followed the instructions or deadly force would have been used," Pare told The Associated Press. "And she's lucky to be in a cell as opposed to the morgue."

jetpat · 2007-09-21, 12:35 PM

Saw another one this morning on the news about a lady getting tazed and kind of kicked to the ground and the cop was just walking behind her like he was taking a dog for a walk. She smacked her head pretty hard on the back of the car. That was pretty crazy! News cycles are interesting, to say the least. Seems now we're hearing a ton of taze stories. I recall the last cycle was airplanes having landing gear issues. All the news choppers flocking to the airport to see if there's any crash. C'mon, you know that's why they do it! Kinda like watching NASCAR...tell me you don't watch Talladega to see the "big one".

As far as this one in Boston - WTF over?!?!! Play-Doh and a circuit board? You're just asking to get shot at that point.

jennym · 2007-09-21, 04:28 PM

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As far as this one in Boston - WTF over?!?!! Play-Doh and a circuit board? You're just asking to get shot at that point.

Again, I attribute it to the "look at me...I am FREE to do whatever I want" generation. Disrespectful little bastards.

2007-09-20, 07:45 AM	#26
spacemanspiff Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Looz-e-anna Posts: 1,015	So the cops go from billy clubs and guns to tasers, and they're "out of control". I say when they come out with the "pretty please do what we say" gun, we stage a revolution. It is a very sad state of affairs indeed. I long for the good old days when a cop would smack you in the head because you didn't answer fast enough, or beat you half to death because you were black and looked at a white woman. Those boys had some control. Not like these hot heads we have today. Just ask the black man that served his country in WW2, came home and hopped on a bus and was told that he had to sit in the back. He said "no way. I just spent 2 years on the front lines and I'm not sitting on the back of the bus." So 4 cops cams along, beat the shit out of him and poked out his eyes. Good thing they didn't have a taser or things would have gotten really ugly. __________________ Submit your free sites to Free Sex Pics

2007-09-20, 07:48 AM	#27
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	I found it interesting that this happened on the day we mostly forgot to celebrate this year: Constitution Day. It was 220 years ago, on September 17, 1787, that the U.S. constitution was signed by 42 of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention. Constitution Day was formerly known as Citizenship Day until 2004 when it was made "Constitution Day and Citizenship Day" by an amendment to a bill signed into law by our illustrious president George W. Bush, a man who has always shown the utmost respect and reverence for those four handwritten pages along with the first ten amendments to that document, which we call The Bill of Rights. "We the People..." What a concept. . about 891,000 results for taser dangers. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka Last edited by Simon; 2007-09-20 at 08:01 AM.. Reason: added link to Google search

2007-09-20, 07:51 AM	#28
Bluey A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia. Posts: 53	Torn and Jennym make a few good points. B. __________________ Be nice to people on your way up because you meet them on your way down.

2007-09-20, 09:08 AM	#35
jetpat Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 109	Glad to help you get it out of your system jennym! I always enjoy a good debate. Oh, and I've seen some of the vids on my Bondage niche...it can be tough to use those handcuffs when someone is struggling!! Ciao. __________________ Earn $5,000,000 just by clicking my sig!

2007-09-20, 09:05 PM	#37
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2007-09-20, 12:21 PM	#36
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	I have been hit by mace (by accident), hit with a taser (at work when we started to sell them) and tear gassed (boot camp) and I must say of the 3, I will choose being tased every time. Sure it hurts like hell, but it didn’t hurt that long and there was no long term side effect for me, tear gas is nasty but disappears fast, mace just fucking sucks, nothing but time will take care of it and it takes 20+ minutes for it to disappear. And this guy wasn’t exactly a midget, he is a good sized kid and again, he flays his arms and tries to run off and more than once, like it or not that IS resisting arrest. The video starts and shows you only what makes him look like a victim and not an instigator which was conveniently edited out. I agree with the question, what are the cops suppose to do? Ask him over and over and over to leave and ignore everything else and just keep asking him to leave? So 1 person should be allowed to disrupt hundreds and get away with it? HA! People seem to think if you wear a badge, you are instantly wrong and dirty and corrupt, there are just a few bad cops and many good ones, but for all the bitching over bad cops, who wants to live in a world where there is no law enforcement at all? I have family members who are cops, so I know many police officers and by far most are honest and fair and I also knew a few dirty pricks who became cops and are still dirty ass pricks but now they have a badge, so I know dirty cops as well. I stand by my first post; I am on the cop’s side 100% in this case, he was asked to stop, he was asked to leave, he was being escorted out, he resisted, he tried to run, he screamed and cried and begged and he got arrested. Now the 83 year old woman who was thrown to the sidewalk and handcuffed over a lawn that she refused to water is a different story….

2007-09-20, 09:44 PM	#38
jetpat Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 109	Me, too. That woman simply didn't water her lawn. That's nothing to get thrown to the sidewalk and cuffed for. Unless she lived next door, then it just brings my property value down. __________________ Earn $5,000,000 just by clicking my sig!

2007-09-21, 08:19 AM	#40
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	. Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'. We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drummin'. ... . __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2007-09-21, 11:41 AM	#42
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Looks like another student got the attention she was wanting. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3634458 Too bad for her she wasn't as lucky to just get tased and I bet she will have about 15-20 to think about how great her "art" really is. "She's extremely lucky she followed the instructions or deadly force would have been used," Pare told The Associated Press. "And she's lucky to be in a cell as opposed to the morgue."

2007-09-21, 12:35 PM	#43
jetpat Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 109	Saw another one this morning on the news about a lady getting tazed and kind of kicked to the ground and the cop was just walking behind her like he was taking a dog for a walk. She smacked her head pretty hard on the back of the car. That was pretty crazy! News cycles are interesting, to say the least. Seems now we're hearing a ton of taze stories. I recall the last cycle was airplanes having landing gear issues. All the news choppers flocking to the airport to see if there's any crash. C'mon, you know that's why they do it! Kinda like watching NASCAR...tell me you don't watch Talladega to see the "big one". As far as this one in Boston - WTF over?!?!! Play-Doh and a circuit board? You're just asking to get shot at that point. __________________ Earn $5,000,000 just by clicking my sig!