Guys like this make it difficult for me...

[tortus32]

Guys like this make it hard for me to get cheap models!

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/adg/164758051.html

It sucks being on the east coast - LOL!

Sorry, just had to rant!

[juggernaut]

Tort Im in jersey and can tell you, he is going to get responses but the fact is the models are going to be freaked out a little on this part " private Nude video & photo collection." Why pay that much if you are looking for personal stuff? Makes no sense to me and the pro models will not bother with it. Something feels strange about that ad. If your looking for models just pound the news papers, opm and any other place you can find. Fact is it's great being in Jersey, you are close enough to the biggest hub in the world NYC. Most of the USA's population resides on the east coast. One thing i did long back in the day was schedule shoots up and down the eat coast. Think about it, 1 drive down to FLA from here will cost you $350 in gas, can be done over a week and you can hit every dam state on the way down and take shots. I know it's tough but adds like that freak people out. Most people pay $350 per hour. The pro models know better, this guy says he is droping $100 per strip but when the time comes for the harder stuff he is going to have problems as he is vague in his pricing $2k a day. $2k to do what? I would not worry about it. Hit the strip clubs you can get them if you are professional. I used to ask every dam girl in the clubs, sure 99% would say no, but the ones who said yes were very much into it. You can do this, there are more then enough models/ wanna be models here.

[tortus32]

Thanks, I do Ok I guess.
It's really hard for me as I don't drive and I'm ot in the woods of north NJ (Sussex Cnty) where there's no trains or buses.

And I'd say every other model I have cotacted in the city doesn't have a car.
Right now I'm doing Ok with craigslist. Seems there's lots of local girls who'll work for peanuts.

I just remembered someone on this board saying in the midwest they get girls to do 5 hours of solo/toys video for $100. I don't think anyone around here would work that cheaply.

Thanks,

Bill

[Murderous]

I knew a local photographer who took "private" photos to build his portfolio, he had lots of girls in there. He may be willing to pay more cause these pics have to be his best work or close. Don't want to waste that on a few "average" models.

[tortus32]

Originally Posted by Murderous

I knew a local photographer who took "private" photos to build his portfolio, he had lots of girls in there. He may be willing to pay more cause these pics have to be his best work or close. Don't want to waste that on a few "average" models.

My problem is that I want to work with average or better models, and when they look at ads like this, they think I should be paying the same or more.

[Murderous]

Yes, I understand your situation. I have a few friends who are models and whenever I try referring them to do web work or to work for web content, they expect loads of money and get pissed when I tell them that web doesn't pay as much as DVD etc.

Especially the ones with the BIG heads who are average but feel because they do porn or undress for the camera, they are the hottest piece walking.

[tortus32]

Originally Posted by Murderous

Especially the ones with the BIG heads who are average but feel because they do porn or undress for the camera, they are the hottest piece walking.

I think this is an east coast problem, or at least it's not a midwest problem, I should say - lol!

[Murderous]

It was actually central US maybe a bit more south. I used to live in Ky.

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by tortus32

I just remembered someone on this board saying in the midwest they get girls to do 5 hours of solo/toys video for $100. I don't think anyone around here would work that cheaply.

Thanks,

Bill

I doubt that unless they are real skanks! I have various people shoot for me and they have yet to get those kinds of prices. Or maybe they are and are just raping me with the price. LOL

But I do shoot big boobs and they are not the easiest to get.

You have to remember too that an ad will advertise the highest price. He may get a model to shoot for 3-4 hours and give her $250 for posing, topless and some masturbation and in 3-4 hours get 5-6 sets done or more.

[tortus32]

I guess I'm not alone then - uhg.

[Murderous]

No, you are definately not alone heh.

[emmanuelle]

He is asking them to do much more than you do. You're shooting non-nude foot fetish, not masturbation.

You do need to compensate for location though. Once we moved our studio to across the street from a subway station, girls were much more interested in working for us. I've got more than I can handle right now, all fresh faces.


BTW- I noticed that you recruit on OMP. In our experience many of those girls charge higher rates and tend to be a colossal pain in the ass. Recruit locally- cheaper and fewer headaches!

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by tortus32

I just remembered someone on this board saying in the midwest they get girls to do 5 hours of solo/toys video for $100. I don't think anyone around here would work that cheaply.

Hmmm, yeah. When I ran AustinGirlz, I paid $100/hr. for solo/toys, which seemed to be a fair rate for all concerned.

And really - any model so desperate that she'd sign a release and pose for only $20/hr. is not someone I want in my studio. I'd suspect a drug habit or something else really bad in her life.