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Chop Smith 2006-01-03 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwoman
I cant say that green guy and jim has gotton any good response from anyone. It shows a Total lack of knowledge of the legal system.
Some statements that were written were pure slander and has caused harm because of its inclusion in the news paper

|buddy|, how many times were you advised not to hang your dirty laundry here and to get a lawyer? This is not a legal board but, just like an asshole, we all have an opinion and someone came here asking for an opinion. The posters in this thread damn sure did not seek you out.

webwoman 2006-01-04 12:46 AM

That does not change the facts. I did not ask for legal advice.
Media is important and this site was the first one i wrote at because i thought it had an understanding of the webmaster part of my site which is 100% legal. Instead i got people who thought it might be more interesting to post my private site and pretend that it was part of my membership sites.
The truth is that just because i'm Mistress does not mean that i cant be a webmaster. But thats what most said.
I dont run from my problems and the police can see that it made a huge mistake. But i thought i would share it seeing how this site ended up in the paper.
All infomation was taken from news groups and sites some not even mine. That goes to show you that these types of boards are watched.
Dont you understand that if they can police boards that anyone can be accountable to have to answer to third hand information. its does not have to be true to use as probable cause.
I guess what was truly upsetting is watching everyone attack and bash each other. That cant be good.

Useless 2006-01-04 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwoman
That does not change the facts. I did not ask for legal advice.

Are you sure? Then what did you mean by "need help" in this thread's title? Did you just expect us all to ask where we should send our donations to your cause?

The police took all of your computers and you are losing your home, yet you have both the capability and time to post here. Toss in the alleged harm you are suffering from our words and one might think that you are either a glutton for punishment or a pathological liar.

By the way, in order for anyone's statements to you or about you to be considered libelous, you'd need to prove that those statements damaged your reputation. Which reputation would that be?

Chop Smith 2006-01-04 01:41 AM

These were my opinions in November:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop
I just cannot figure why folks air their legal problems in public.

I think publicity like this hurts our industry.

There is a time to keep your fucking mouth closed.

This is my opinion in January:
|deadhorse

Good luck, Webwoman |waves|

RawAlex 2006-01-04 03:04 AM

I had a really good response written, well thought out, filled with the required number of sighs and pokes.

I deleted it.

The article(s) are nice, but without proper attribution, there is no way to tell who really said what. Quoting from one article without saying where it was found, and then quoting another article underneith it that appears to be written by a blogger doesn't do much for me.

Again, each and every one of these "articles" appears to have been written with only two sources: You and your lawyer.

I went back and looked at page one. Each and every one of us said "stop posting, get a lawyer". Yet, here you are, posting on and feeding the frenzy. I truly don't get it.

Alex

GonZo 2006-01-04 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwoman
That does not change the facts. I did not ask for legal advice.

Doesnt change the fact that you were trolling for donations either.

docholly 2006-01-04 06:51 AM

is this sybil posting because it's always the same board name but constantly clarified by "i'm the videophotographer" or some other person.

IF you "all" were making money and obviously you have access to a computer.. BUCK it up and get back to work. if you are a webmaster, as you claim, make some $$. Or go buy/rent another computer..i mean they are pretty cheap even in uptight CT.

In the amount of time you been here airing your dirty laundry you could have built 45 free sites and had money coming in already.

MADAME holly has spoken. |club|

MeatPounder 2006-01-04 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by docholly
MADAME holly has spoken.

Do you take on paying clients? ;)

MadMax 2006-01-04 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwoman
I cant say that green guy and jim has gotton any good response from anyone. It shows a Total lack of knowledge of the legal system.
Some statements that were written were pure slander and has caused harm because of its inclusion in the news paper
The court date is thursday the 5th

This is the type of thing that happens when you cry about legal problems on a message board.

Surfn 2006-01-04 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo
Doesnt change the fact that you were trolling for donations either.

I thought you were trolling in Vegas? ;)

Hammer 2006-01-05 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Surfn
I thought you were trolling in Vegas? ;)

And he'll be wearing some sort of fur Batman cape I believe. Look for the donut symbol in the sky.

DJilla 2006-01-05 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwoman
That does not change the facts. I did not ask for legal advice.
Media is important and this site was the first one i wrote at because i thought it had an understanding of the webmaster part of my site which is 100% legal. Instead i got people who thought it might be more interesting to post my private site and pretend that it was part of my membership sites.
The truth is that just because i'm Mistress does not mean that i cant be a webmaster. But thats what most said.
I dont run from my problems and the police can see that it made a huge mistake. But i thought i would share it seeing how this site ended up in the paper.
All infomation was taken from news groups and sites some not even mine. That goes to show you that these types of boards are watched.
Dont you understand that if they can police boards that anyone can be accountable to have to answer to third hand information. its does not have to be true to use as probable cause.
I guess what was truly upsetting is watching everyone attack and bash each other. That cant be good.

REPEAT


Quote:

Originally Posted by DJilla
You have my utmost sympathies and I truly have an idea of what you are going through. Here's the rub and take my words as gospel... first of all stupid realize everything you post here is and will be evidence. Whatever you declare here you will have to defend there.
So shut the fuck up and get a lawyer immediately.

Additionally, you have just gone through a scary and difficult time. You should know that it has just begun. It will get much worse from here on out and will last a minimum of two years of fucked financials, major inconvenence, threat to your freedom, and maybe even an upcoming incarceration and payment of a bond that depending on your state maybe many tens of thousans of dollars.

Unless you have 50,000+ to invest you will end up loosing on some aspect of this matter. So don't be more stupid and think a jury is an option. Close this matter as expeditiously as possible take your lump and move on .. or out.

A note to all naive people running porn sites:

As much as you're pleased with yourself and popular at parties... you should remember that to most others you are a smut peddler slightly above lizard on the scale of evolution and they want to stamp you out. You are lucky to even be in this business.... a decade ago someone would be throwing combustible materials in your winows or meeting you in an alley. Prosecution has always been a sister to pornography. If you are not prepared for the prospect don't cry later
If you had done your due diligence when starting this business and done a simple internet search of news articles on the subject you would have found that this kind of prosecution is fairly common in different locations over the years in amost identical circumstances as yours.

One lesson that your exprience illustrates is if you are on the web don't operate locally. If you operate locally stay the hell off the web.


Another is: have plenty of cash offsite and a backup of your webspace in multiple locations.

Another is: have lunch with a lawyer at least once every three months. If you're not playing tennis with him/her you've got the wrong lawyer. Don't have a lawyer? Next....

The porn biz is a war zone. People and orgnizations are trying to demolish you, ruin you, ridcule you, hurt you, put you in jail. They go to bed thinking about the subject and they wake up thnking about the prospects. They are obsessed. They have power. They have guns, and cars, and radios, and snoops, and snitches, and subpoenas, and more guns.

It is also a business ripe with fraud and criminal enterprise and an easy political target. There's a lot of stuff swirling around this. Many, many, WM's should really reconsider.

Phew... I feel so much better already with that off my chest!


webwoman 2006-01-06 01:29 AM

Today was a good day at court, although i'm not at liberty to discuss facts yet.
i did want you all to read the legal outcome. i will be back in business in the next 4 weeks
Attorney Daniel Silver writes a column for http://xtrememagazine.com/Homepage/Frameset1.html
Called the legal eye
He has been writing for this magazine since 1996.
The February issues will portray my case my websites and how to stay safe in this ever changing business.
It should shed some light on our lifestyle. Xtreme magazine has a monthly circulation of 160,000 and a readership of over 480,000 adult entertainment goers in the following areas: for more information go to http://xtrememagazine.com/Homepage/Frameset1.html

Tommy 2006-06-19 09:10 PM

well this had an interesting end

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=15564

no criminal charge just a zoning violation

it seems we made a bigger deal out of it then the police did


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