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Cleo 2005-02-24 12:14 PM

Is he dead yet?

Theproofhouse 2005-02-24 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ecchi
Wow Theproofhouse, you must be new to message boards, this thread is only a baby in the "crap posts" department. I have seen plenty of threads a lot worse than this (even started a few myself).

ecchi
No I am not new to message boards,but I beleive if someone has a view on religeon, whether they are beleivers or not, they should not insult a faith.

ecchi 2005-02-24 12:21 PM

Wenchy, just a query about Paganism. Many years back, out of interest only, I read a lot about witchcraft. In that "religion" the term "grimoires" refers to the stronger, most black spellbooks, the ones most witches won't even read, let alone use. Does the fact that Pagans use these as their "personal bibles" mean you go in for the darker stuff or have you just corrupted the use of the word grimoir ?

DeniseAWC 2005-02-24 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ecchi
RE- "Let's get back to basics and start worshiping trees, nature, the sky, the sun and such" It is religion that causes the killing etc, not who you worship. If we worshipped nature the "tree worshippers" would start to kill the "sky worshippers" and the "sun worshippers" would split into two groups with slightly different views on how to worship the sun, and start fighting each other.

I'd only advocate becoming a 'Winchester .357 Underlever Mod 94AS' worshiper and those sun worshipers can bring it on!

lol

ecchi 2005-02-24 12:33 PM

Theproofhouse - I agree, but there is a difference between believing in "not insulting a faith" and stifling criticism of a faith. For example I am a Christian, I have spent a lot of time at church, I even used to belong to a group who went around performing religious plays to anyone who we could convince to watch them in the hopes of helping "people see the light". However I do not have a problem with any of the posts on this, or similar threads. In fact if the moderators started editing any of these posts, then I would object, even the posts they edited were posts that are very contrary to my views.

To insult someone's faith is wrong, but to stop someone expressing an opinion against another faith worse, it is fascism.

ecchi 2005-02-24 12:36 PM

Theproofhouse - Rereading my last post I just realised that the last paragraph may be seen as an inference that you are a fascist. It was not meant that way. Sorry.

DeniseAWC 2005-02-24 12:38 PM

OK, all this religion is getting far too serious so check this out

|bow| Worship my Winchester

That's all I have to say on the subject now, we all have our opinions and this is getting far to deep.

Laters

Cleo 2005-02-24 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeniseAWC

Nice vibrators

Guess the one that you are holding is for playing Is There A God type sex games.

DeniseAWC 2005-02-24 12:56 PM


A moment of sanity in a crazy world - lol

Halfdeck 2005-02-24 12:58 PM

The pope is just an old guy. Take it easy on him, lol. If the media's talking 24/7 about his toilet problems, that's not the pope's fault. That's the damn media's fault and people who watch TV who makes CNN and FOX think reporting on the pope will make them more $$$$

DeniseAWC 2005-02-24 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo
Nice vibrators

Guess the one that you are holding is for playing Is There A God type sex games.

Mostly I use them when I feel a need to cry our 'Oh my god'

But I do seem to have quite a collection now!
Batteries not included (or necessary!)

Sharing is caring, honest

It's not loaded - but I know how to use it!

lol

SirMoby 2005-02-24 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Theproofhouse
Never read so much crap posts on a board in all of my internet life.

It does seem that there is a lot of hostility here. I've always thought that religion is a way to control the population just like politics. While it's all about power and money, many people need the service in order to make sense of their own lives, get some direction and to not become a complete danger to society. I know a lot of very religious people that without the fear of going to hell would not hesitate to rape, steal or kill.

Is The Pope doing anything different then a typical US politician? Isn't he just trying to keep his folks in power? At least he's not killing anyone at the moment.

Hostility at this level always makes me nervous and it doesn't matter if it's the religious folks feeling towards us or our feelings towards them.

And NO, I don't believe in most of what the church states but I think if they didn't fill people with fear and a little hate then those people would destroy the world very quickly so it's needed.

Wenchy 2005-02-24 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ecchi
Wenchy, just a query about Paganism. Many years back, out of interest only, I read a lot about witchcraft. In that "religion" the term "grimoires" refers to the stronger, most black spellbooks, the ones most witches won't even read, let alone use. Does the fact that Pagans use these as their "personal bibles" mean you go in for the darker stuff or have you just corrupted the use of the word grimoir ?

A grimoire is simply a "witch's bible". I get the impression from non-pagans that it has been primarily connected with the black arts, but modern witchcraft simply views it as a book in which a practitioner keeps their spells (and not all spells are evil or designed to do harm, BTW), notes, rituals, private thoughts, etc.

Personally I haven't corrupted jack, but that's just me. |cool|

Incidentally, the "grande grimoire" I'm sure many have heard about is nothing more than a grimoire held by the head of a coven. In the old days, these books were guarded with one's life and well hidden to avoid discovery by those who labeled witchcraft "heresy" and would have killed to make it go away.

Wenchy 2005-02-24 02:29 PM

And that's the last comment I have on this topic as I have far bigger fish to fry on this chilly Thursday afternoon. So much work, so little time... |peace|

ecchi 2005-02-24 02:40 PM

Thanks

ecchi 2005-02-24 02:42 PM

Umm, I mean thanks for replying, NOT thanks for it being your last comment.

Cliff 2005-02-25 06:49 AM

I am a Catholic but I dont agree with what the Holy Father said
I think he wont be saying very much more on the subject since he is breathing through a tube now :(

Cleo 2005-02-25 07:41 AM

Is he dead yet?

No he can't be because the morning news is going on and on and on about what he ate and other endless dribble on the pope's death watch.

I hope he lives on and one in prolonged medically assisted living hell. Maybe then he will have had time to think about a individual's right to die.

And in other news Jesus remains dead…

Kinky 2005-02-25 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo
And in other news Jesus remains dead…

are you sure? he pops up in vegetables, potato chips, windows, and wooden door grain at least once a month

Halfdeck 2005-02-25 08:17 AM

Morning news is going on and on about the pope. And this thread is going on and on about the pope :)

Kinky 2005-02-25 05:04 PM

just a quick update, the news just reported that the pope ate breakfast this morning, I guess he was hungry

Theproofhouse 2005-02-25 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby
It does seem that there is a lot of hostility here. I've always thought that religion is a way to control the population just like politics. While it's all about power and money, many people need the service in order to make sense of their own lives, get some direction and to not become a complete danger to society. I know a lot of very religious people that without the fear of going to hell would not hesitate to rape, steal or kill.

Is The Pope doing anything different then a typical US politician? Isn't he just trying to keep his folks in power? At least he's not killing anyone at the moment.

Hostility at this level always makes me nervous and it doesn't matter if it's the religious folks feeling towards us or our feelings towards them.

And NO, I don't believe in most of what the church states but I think if they didn't fill people with fear and a little hate then those people would destroy the world very quickly so it's needed.

Hostile? Me?
No way
If you want to see hostile posts, then just read the whole thread.

Useless 2005-02-25 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Theproofhouse
Hostile? Me?
No way
If you want to see hostile posts, then just read the whole thread.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't calling you hostile. He was agreeing with you, somewhat.

The rest of us are hostile.:D

stuveltje 2005-02-25 06:04 PM

:D i realy dont care about the pope.....come one in holland all lesbian and gay can be married if they want, btw they do already a along time, who cares, if they are happy lett them marrie, and who cares what the fuck one person of the vatican said, he is not god....... i am and i say hell fuck who you want and marry (marrie i dont care about that either)who you want..... :D

Cleo 2005-02-25 06:09 PM

Is he dead yet?


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