We were best friends until he screwed me. But, he screwed everyone that he did business with including the webmasters, talent, tech and host.

He did once want to come to my house but I told him I may be forced to shoot him :)

Hey Tommy, not sure how your sales are today, but we are having a HUGE sales day, and look what was in the news today:

http://money.cnn.com/2003/12/01/mark...ex.htm?cnn=yes

Hmmmmmmmm.......|rasta|

Actually John...I just kind of shut myself down for about a year. More depression than anger.

Oh man, what a story... you could make a movie from this :(
But... seems like in the end - you're the winner.

I dont understant this part "he didn't like what was happening with the girls in the business " I suppose it was just a lie ? Or what the girls where beeing beaten ?

jim,

that is by far the worst case of getting screwed over I've ever heard. I had a friend who owned a comic book store with a partner. For 3 years they worked and were saving money to get a better location. One day when they were about 3 months from moving ( they had saved the money they needed ) he got a call from a delivery driver telling him the store was closed( his parter was scheduled to open that day ) so he went down and opened up. He figured his partner was sick or something bad had happened like he got in a car wreck. He couldn't find his partner for 3 days then he realized that all the money in the company account was gone. His partner had withdrew every cent they had saved over 3 years for the new store and disappeared. He ended up going out of buisness about 2 months later. It was bad, but not like your's Ultracash was the first sponser I ever used and got any kind of decent size checks from I always had wondered what happened to them.

As for can you make a living. Sure if you are willing to work. a year ago I lost control of 5 domains that I own ( it's a long story that is 20% my fault this happened and 80% nestol's fault ) 3 of those domains had little or nothing on them the other 2 made up a huge portion of my sites. When I lost them I lost about 80% of my income. In the last year I've been working hard and am about 70% back to where I was. So you can do pretty decent if you work and are willing to keep learning

I tell ya
everytime someone says looks what in the news, I get nervous thats its gonna be me

You got lucky once again Tommy.

I am a lucky guy

I grew up in my family's A/C contracting and construction business. Partners, business associates, people in general fuck you over in all businesses. :(

Greed, egos, and stupidity cause people to do some really fucked up things. |raygun|

It's nice when you find people that you can trust. :)

Looks like you came out ahead Jim. :)

|jester|

Can count them on Homer Simpson's fingers.

WOW! You are a lot more trusting than I am.

Sorry, I didn't mean both hands.

Trust has to be earned over time. There are times when I trust nobody.

I've totally forgotten what this thread was about...........

"Honest Opinions On Potential In This Business after 99"

The number of hits to make a dollar is a good point (Jim). Profit margins are good now because bandwidth is so cheap. In the old days hosting was a nightmare, but sales were easy.

I've learned that you should never put all your money on partnership business even if it's your best friend since you were 7.

Money does strange things to people. |shake|

That's not what your friend Mark T tells me...He tells me after doing business with you, he was lucky :)

who the fuck is mark T

Read your private messages Tommy :)

I read that story, and indeed, that is a very sad lesson in how horrible people can treat friends and loved ones when money is involved. I used to live in your neck of the woods (Syracuse) and got screwed over by my brother-in-law who was my partner in a few Dunkin Donuts shops so I can remotely relate.

Atleast you learn from your misstakes. I've lernt some things last years.

1) Never put your whole budget on one single venture.
2) Don't partner up without lots of legal papers involved and clear before you start.
3) Never try to hide tax money, even if it's and old misstake few years back. It'll bite your ass and it hurts. |knockout|