I know I'm a little green and an idiot to boot but that logic seems a bit fuzzy to me. Perhaps if your starting your blog on a new domain...I see some logic behind what your saying but how is there an advantage over starting your blog on an established domain. Either way, your getting indexed by the "bots" on a regular basis.

Even starting on a brand new domain, while "waiting" for the bots to pick you up, your working your trades and working your keywords so that when they do finally show, your hitting your odd keywords but also it's picking up the more common ones as well. So over the long run (say 6 months) are you really ahead of the curve? Especially when on your own domain, your not leaking traffic daily to pay for the subdomain your blog is on.

Getting a new fresh domain on the first page can be a pain in the ass. You only have to do one thing wrong and your domain lands on page 100 or in the google sandbox (google confirmed the existence of this). That said, it is possible to get a fresh domain on the first page quickly but that requires major knowledge of SEO and knowledge of the many google quirks. The difference over the long run, i think not much. But maybe it's me, but i don't want to wait months to get quality traffic.

That's only the domain story, let's look at the linking story. Putting x domains on a single server and interlinking between them isn't a wise thing :) But interlinking between x domains on your server and x blogs on thumblogger can give PR a big boost. And of course traffic, 1 blog in the search results give less traffic then 10 blogs in the search results, but that's logical.

And there are even more tricks to be a better blogger. |loony|

That may be possible, but it is never going to stick, unless its some obscure keyword. I would love to see some proof of this?

Not denying it, or letting people believe it is not confirmation

Most of those with solid SE knowledge(at least on this board) would argue that the "sandbox" only exists in the minds of search engine board posters.


Additionally if thumblogger is used for SE spam and trademark infringement like this - http://worldsex.thumblogger.com/ I wouldn't be touching it with a 10 foot pole.

and twn if you are the owner of thumblogger.. you could do yourself a favour in deleting this one... - http://cutiespicsst.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://pornoisflash.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://pornvirginsst.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://nakedteenagest.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://teenspornost.thumblogger.com/


Like I said.. I wouldn't touch it :(

DD

Visit the netpond forum and ask your question, many bloggers over there.

But here's one:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...na&btnG=Search
or
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...na&btnG=Search
http://nubile-girl-dina.thumblogger.com/

This one was spidered within 1 day and got position 4 first, it moved to position one within a 2 days. :D

Sandbox is confirmed i readed a article a couple months ago, a google employee was talking about the sandbox.

You are not using thumblogger because of other blogs?
Then i suspect you also aren't using blogger nor any other free hosted blogging service?

Note: i'm the support, promoter and programmer at thumblogger, but i gave my partner a bump to check out the mentioned blogs. Likely the quality team will take a look at it.
Note2: a free hosting service can never prevent all abuse (i should try though), the mentioned blogs are only a very small part of all pages. Currently 191.000 pages from thumblogger are on google. |loony|

Yeah right - Netpond is where I get all my good information!!


So your "friend" doesnt seem to care much...

http://worldsex.thumblogger.com/
http://cutiespicsst.thumblogger.com/
http://pornoisflash.thumblogger.com/
http://pornvirginsst.thumblogger.com/
http://nakedteenagest.thumblogger.com/
http://teenspornost.thumblogger.com/

are all still up and infringing peoples copyrighted works and trademarks..

Shall we send the DMCA's to you or your pal?

.....and how many of those are for incest/cp/kp keywords.. I would say from having a quick look... at least 5000 of them

Once again this only serves as a warning to those who may use Thumblogger - do so at your own risk.

DD

Oh and...
Hmm but your alter ego - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4069 - tried to sell thumblogger at least once? - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...80&postcount=1

.. hmm same IP, similar name... hmmmm
.. did you forget your login details for your other personality?

DD

No...... wait............. theres more...

Did you forget the login for this personality as well? - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4671

This one actually claims to be the webmaster(?owner) of thumblogger......

Now who are we to believe... hmmmmmmmmmm

DD

There is the bag.
There is the cat.

The cat is no longer in the bag. ;)

I did sell it and now i'm a partner doing promotion & programming & support. Look around boards and you will see this story confirmed. Nothing strange here.

Please look at the third post of this topic, this is me: twthumb.

Let's sum up:
1. twan, did partner up with a investor.
2. created a new account: twthumb, this way no one would be confused.
3. twthumb account password couldn't be retrieved after greenguyandjim board upgrade.
4. so i created a new account: twn.

As you can see they are al related to "twan", the "tw" from twthumb (thumb = thumblogger), and twn (is twan but without a "a").

There isn't really something wrong, or am i missing something?

As a with a good service we don't delete blogs within 1 minute, at least 5 people will take a look at the blogs (the quality team i was talking about). This way we ensure that the right decision is made.Did you include blogger in your search? I bet you will find many 'not good' blogs.
Do you also warn people when they use blogger or are going to use blogger?

.. and you all live in the same house
.. and you all have the same internet connection
.. and you all use the same IPs

Hmmm this is starting to sound familiar?
Do submit free sites?
Is you name Alex?


DD

I'll add that it's not that tough to get some INITIAL hot placement in google for a brand new site. It might even last a few days....

Edited to add:
You may or may not have noticed that DangerDave generally doesn't even start in on someone unless he's already bulletproof. I like to sit back and watch people bouncing off of him :D

Now THIS is some worthy drama :D

Of course, twan, twthumb and twn are the same person. Why i did that:
Again there isn't anything wrong with that, or is it?

I submitted 2 sites, both located on handpickedgalleries.com . One was accepted by greenguy and another biggy, but that was 3 or 4 months ago. I was testing for a new project. Both freesites are still up and running, let's see:
http://handpickedgalleries.com/claudiajob/
http://handpickedgalleries.com/firstdoublefuck/

My name isn't alex, i'm twan (just like my nickname). |loony|
I think you are confusing me with someone else, cause i never had trouble with anyone in adult business. So i'm not sure what you are trying to do?

This time he is wrong, he might be right about some blogs on thumblogger that aren't 'good blog' but the quality team needs time to make a good decision.
But he is definately wrong about me, like i said i didn't do anything wrong or cheaty or something like that.
I can imagine there is some confusing about the acounts over here, but i think i explained why i did that.

If anyone wants to say what i did wrong, please enlighten me.

And DangerDave if you want to call me to talk with me in person please send a email to twan@thumblogger.com and i will give you my phone number. I would love to hear what you have to say and explain the confusing you might have. I live in the netherlands, CET over here.

Then who is Marie Timmermans?
Huh? How does this eliminate confusion?

Seems very fishy.

My business partner (not the investor wants to keep on the background). Sponsors also always ask me this question everytime i signup.
Imagine you offer a site, a investor mails you, gives you a deal. Now you post again with the "twan" account, people will start to think "did he sold it? is it the same twan?". Creating a new account "twthumb" ( tw(an)thumb(logger) ) makes it for me more easier, but if one (dangerdave) starts to search for strange things then he might conclude that this is a strange thing, because he didn't knew the full story.

If you want to check out my posting history:
http://www.boardtracker.com/cgi-bin/...22&member=1297
You will that everything i said is confirmed.

This makes no sense. YOU created the confusion by having mulitple identities. If I change business practices tomorrow, I wouldn't change my board name to Useful Non-combatant. People know me, my sites, my personality, my plethora of personal dysfunctions, etc. If I was to sell something or start something new, I'd announce it. What you did IS strange. That's why DD called you out. It's not him being nuts. You do have multiple board identities. I'm not calling it criminal, just strange and confusing.

Here's my take, not on you and your Dissociative Identity Disorder, but on sites such as yours. People who use 'free hosted' services, such as Blogger, are foolish. Always host your own shit. There are a ton of free and friendly scripts out there with detailed installation instructions. Do it yourself. Host it yourself. Control it yourself. Be taken seriously.

Then you may be pleased to hear that i still have my old 'twan' name on many boards and also active make posts.
http://www.boardtracker.com/cgi-bin/...22&member=1297

And i don't have multiple identities, like you can see i dropped twan and start using twthumb, i did not used twan anymore. I would have multiple identities when i used both accounts actively. Which i didn't do.

That's you opinion, but i and many people see the possibilities and chances that blogger and thumblogger are giving to the adult webmaster. Many webmasters are using it for giving their else where hosted blog a boost, some use it as a start or to get used to blogs, other are interested in a certain keyword, other are building their own blog network. So many good uses for blogger and thumblogger.

Whoever the fuck you are..... and I dont really care...

...the only reason I questioned anything to do with you is to make sure others had the FULL PICTURE before they started commiting sites to your 'thing' and doing business with you or your partners, or your flatmates or whoever..

Credibility is everything.. and you just can't get your story straight.. and you continue to gloss over some of the points raised here.


Webmasters will make up their own minds...

.. but while pages such as these still exist on your site/server..

http://worldsex.thumblogger.com/
http://cutiespicsst.thumblogger.com/
http://pornoisflash.thumblogger.com/
http://pornvirginsst.thumblogger.com/
http://nakedteenagest.thumblogger.com/
http://teenspornost.thumblogger.com/

.. and you fail to address issues that are paramount to "free hosts"... such as removing and stopping those that wish to promote cp/kp

.. then I will continue to warn people about doing business with you, your system, or your friends.


My Tip - thumblogger.com will be banned(or severley penalised) by Google by the end of January.

.. and what UW said on "free hosts" is spot on... take the risk.. be prepared to pay the price.. :(

DD

I try to explain things, is there something wrong in explaining things? But please why don't you call me by phone, my english isn't perfect, but i can sort out any problems you might have. (please mail me to get my phone number)I've posted it 3 or 4 times: we care about our blogs, and must be sure that no mistake is made, cause a deletion of a blog is a big step. When the quality team has decided a blog will be removed: we will first contact the owner of the blog to see what he got to say about it. Then we read his 'defence' and see what we will do. This is a non 1 man action, it is taken by 5 people. (the quality team)We will see, but i have no reason nor any facts to believe this. But i will contact gogle and see what they think about it.Please do so, because there are enough reasons to join blogger or thumblogger: you can grow a wordpress blog, you can increase the PR of a blog, you can get quality traffic, you will have great support and even more.