hahahahaha.. Sorry sometimes things just crack me up. There's a few things to know about me,

1) I dont bullshit people
2) I dont pull punches
3) I dont sugar coat stuff
4) I dont take comments like this lightly:
I'm really glad to hear it although strange how a link would be ok after the change over and then go bad on it's own suddenly late last night but I'll take your word for it.

Your right, I figured lemme see who we can screw and destroyed the link on purpose. Not the facts but trust me when i tell you that anyone that has ever worked with scripts, knows that certain things run off of the same database, etc, and sometimes one change will effect other areas of a script. Believe or think what you wish, thats your choice.

In regards to everyone's Santa's kicking you in the nuts, im sorry you feel that way, business can be tough sometimes. And where Fireman, Police risk their lives (not that this compares to that), it's a tough thing, and when one gets shot or injured in a fire, im sure no one likes it, but it's part of business and doing the job we do.

In regards to today's techonolgy, your right, you would certainly think, and we did think (as have others in the past), it's just the way it goes, shit I WOULD THINK with today's Tech. that 9/11 never would have happend, The Shuttle wouldnt have blown up, there wouldnt be any Fraudulant Transactions, There would never be stolen checks, Cancer would be cured, etc, etc. Regardless, we took it into heavy consideration (so we wouldnt be dealing with posts similar to this), and the sad fact is, it just wasnt in the cards.

Ofcourse I understand there is no "Magic Button" to change all your links accross all your servers, you would think with Todays Technology, there would be. There isnt. It's business and it sucks, and Im not any happier than you about it.

in regards to:

Being from the old philosophy "Fu*k me once shame on you, Fu*k me twice shame on me" I usually just pull links when sponsors pull this but I really do like your program. I hope your retention is as good as your signups have been, then I will make a lot more money and I will eventually forget all about my messed up Christmas of '03

I would hardly say we fucked you even the first time, and I understand you generally pull the links, I appreciate your business, and respect the oppratunity to work with you, however I hope that you can respect that in business things cannot always go the way we want them to go. As for the retention, I hope so to, I would only want the best for affiliates in our RevShare program, in regards to your messed up Christmas, it's still 19 days away, I wouldnt let this be the Christmas buster if I were you, there's still plenty of good things going on in the world, and things could certainly be worse.

Now to answer Cleo & Wicked, no you dont NEED to change anything, it's simply something I would reccomend, to keep it simple, the old codes get tracked and re-directed from their previous home to their new home, the reason we "Recommend" the change is in the event something were to happen to the server that re-directs to the new location, it would ensure you have no issues. it simply takes a link out of the chain and makes the chain shorter which makes it stronger. Now if it were me personally would I change the link codes? No, I never have for any other program I have ever promoted in my personal life, and I wouldnt start now, but thats my choice, and my decision.

Holy Shit! He posted twice that you don't have to change the codes, but I'm sure it's a good idea that you do change them the next time your editing that page/site/domain.

I clicked on one of the old codes this morning & HOLY SHIT! It redirected to the new code!

IMHO this is probably the best "change your link codes" that I have ever seen a program do.

I've changed link codes on big programs at least 5 times. It's a huge fucking pain in the ass. But not this time!

Kudos to the Extreme Team for making this one easy on us webmasters :D

Oh yeah - one other thing - no change over like this ever goes smoothly. You just can not foresee every problem.

Extreme Paychecks changes their stats & tracking & some link problems come up. Go to their support area & email them - that's what they have the support area for.

ARS changed over all their stats a few weeks back & all hell broke loose on their board. Today, it's running better then ever.

Hell - I remember when Ultracash changed their stats/admin & I was fucking pissed....for about a week, then I got used to the new admin & I was a happy camper.

Lighten up.

Go thru the proper channels.

For Christ sakes it's fucking Christmas time! |santa|

Yeah, I think I need to cut back to just 4 pots of coffee a day ;)
I was just a "little" ticked off at the time.

I know very little about scripts, what kind of errors can occur etc.. that's why I said I would take your word for it. Extreme Cash is one of the very few sponsors I would say without a doubt, I believe they don't shave.

I think I was just venting a lot of built up stress from all of the other avs crap a few months ago. kind of like a deja vu, delayed reaction thing :) That really did set me back, I have well over a thousand sites listed with 30+ avs's and it was a BITCH.

Your stuff is good, I believe everything you've said!
I think I'll go pour out the rest of this pot of coffee now!


Peace
|shake|

Greenguy, my biggest complaint was that the one site I really promote with them is the one that was not working. We are not all as rich as you. :)

Maybe I will have to go see for myself. I haven't used them
since their last major redesign.

Ok seems simple enough…

Old codes will continue working.

Grab new codes for new stuff that I do.

PS: I really like the new admin. :)

NO FUCK THAT!!! I wanna use my OLD link codes dammit, I have grown attached to them and I'll be damn if Im gonna stop using them now.....;-)...just fuckin with ya..and yes the old link codes do work because Im getting sales and I dont have any of the new codes up yet.

VC is basically the one i use too so the join page got me a lil down but i am not worried got it fixed. i do have a question about overall stats mine are way off i have i think 5 sites that are all VC and are well over 6mos old and have good se positions etc and i always see basically the same #'s period after period right now i think i had about 50 hits to VC which seems way down?? it should be a lot more than that is this just them not being posted or a delay?? i checked my other links thankfully they were all working and to tour1 so didnt change them. i know you guys are great so iam being patient not to worried lol, plus got a check yesterday hehe and was broke so that helped keep me happy|santa| i just wanna kill google lol they are my problem took maybe 5k+ a month i would have got without this new filter shit, so instead of part-time make some money newbie status that i am now i would have been easy full-time (thanx google|pissleft| merry x-mas to you too)|angry| lol but i am more calm today hehe. less caffine to and time to get drunk and fuck the net 4 12 hours or so hehe.|rasta|

If you guys really wanna change a lot of pags & linkcodes, I have a fast search & replace script that you run on your server.

http://sponsororganizer.com/FreeScripts/s_and_r.html

VERY nice! Thanks!
I looked it over and it's seems simple enough even for me to use.

we all should also maybe think about the fact that the old stats system counted 1st and 2nd page hits so the same surfer would be counted as 2 hits if they clicked through the tour and this new system may not count that way so could be why our hit # is down

Rockdaddy, no problem, everything is cool, im glad we can move forward, it's been a tough week for everyone I think.

Babymaker, in regards to actual "Traffic/Hits", you will see subsantially different numbers if the majority of your codes still point to old pages, the way the system counts now is different than the old system.

Cleo, glad you dig the admin, also some of you may not have noticed because ive been getting hit up on icq about it, if you click on your total sales now you will see referring info as well as daily sales for tyhe period. <--- Just wanted to make sure everyone noticed that.

The referrals are nice, definitely a big improvement. You gotta love the increased payout too.

So you're saying the hits counted will be more accurate with the new codes? Thats a reason to change them out.

All in all, pretty smooth John, a great changeover.

Thanks Bill, glad you like it, and hopefully we will only improve it more with the webmaster feedback we recieve.

Thanks John for keepigng us all in the know!

So far so good on my end, and the increased payouts are even more of a reason to pump more traffic your way!

And check your mail SS, we are announcing another reason to send your traffic to Extreme Paychecks |bananna|

i signed up last nite. didnt get the confirmation email though

my email is admin@cdgirls.com

i prob wont check this thread again so email me if i have to signup again, etc...

I'll be looking for that mail. |bananna|

Just thought I'd mention that previously earned $100 webmaster referrals aren't showing up in the new stats system, just in case that was overlooked when the old stats were migrated over.

All data has been transfered over accordingly, perhaps the time for the webmaster to be active had expired? Were they active within 30 days, obtaining the minimum 5 signups? Reason I ask, is this is the first time we have heard about this issue, I will go over it with techs tommorow as well.

Yes, they are definately not showing up in my account. These are definately referrals that had become active and were shown that way in the old stats.

8/16/03 - 8/31/03
had 2 active webmaster referrals in this period

9/16/03 - 9/31/03
had 1 active webmaster referral in this period

11/01/03 - 11/15/03
had 1 active webmaster refeerral in this period

You can definately verify that the ones for the first two periods were valid, because I had emailed Nate about a check and he told me a check was sent on December 4, 2003. (apparently there was a slight mixup so the check was delayed until then for some reason)

If you want to have someone take a look at my account it is:
evildick

Or ask Nate about it.

Thanks!

I hear you hired this eXtremly Spaztic Yankee guy from Ohio.

Any truth to that rumor?

Hey Evil can you do me a favor and send this stuff through the admin so I can have the tech look at it word for word and go over it to be 100% sure, did some homework on it today and didnt see any issues of lost data anywhere else in the proggie (not saying this isnt true), just saying I want a solid paper trail in the system of this issue.

GoNzO yes it's very true we recently hired some Spaz :) Great . guy, and an excellent addition to the team

Sure thing, just created a ticket.

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DO me a favor John....by that Yankee boy some Krispy Kremes and make him stop eating those Dunkin Doughnuts!