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Okay, that did sound silly the way I phrased it. |crazy|
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I remember another 'fence" that was built once .. finally came down in 1989. of course that was in Berlin and it was to stop all the eastern euros from flooding into Berlin and thus western freedom. But that's another discourse indeed. in my opinion, perhaps the INS, now part of 'homeland' security.. should increase the number of worker bees in their clerical department so those visas can be processed quicker. Waiting 10, 11, 12+ years for one, as one of my kids had to do, should be criminal. The rest of them i brought, personally, illegally into this country and would do it again if i had to. Quote:
Never in my life, as i've moved to at least 5 states since becoming 18, have i ever been asked to prove i was a US citizen when registering to vote. When i moved back to vegas in 2004, just outside my local grocery they had a voter registration booth.. not only did i register with no proof, so did my son's dad, who has been a greencard holder since 1988. My final opinion, cuz you know i have one: Just because the statue of liberty stands in NY harbor doesn't mean the words carved at her feet do not apply to Juarez, Victoria, Key West or Niagara Falls. Quote:
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You're exactly right. Greedy people who own/run companies are the only ones who benifit from illegals. That and the real lazy people who pay illegals to clean their houses. |
My grandparents were immigrants, Russian Jews. Americans HATED them when they came here, and they came legally. Shucks, Americans also hated Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, you name the immigrant and we have hated them. Right now it is the Mexicans turn.
Every single time there's been an influx of immigrants, everyone's complained about these immigrants "stealing" jobs. Hmm. You know, in this society of entitlement (which we do have) most Americans, even POOR Americans, do not want to clean toilets and do manual labor or trash pickup or other dirty work. And historically it is the most recent crop of immigrants which has this type of work. So we free some people up to find better skillsets to move beyond cleaning toilets; is that a bad thing? I don't know why I see this when no one else does, maybe it's the liberal hippy in me. But to me, someone who is willing to DIE to come to a country where they are going to be hated, exploited, work for low income, have no healthcare, and be in danger of deportment all the time, all for the hope and promise and whisper of a better life for their children... well, to me that is the American dream. I cannot begrudge it to someone because of the color of their skin. These people aren't the ones coming in and getting on welfare, that's our own citizens doing that! These people come in and WORK. I dunno why we don't make it easier for them to do so legally. But certainly building a wall around America the Melting Pot is not the answer... at least not in my vision of what this country is, and means to the world. As for Bush having anything both ways, didn't you see Laura Bush's interview the other day? First she said she doesn't mind the national anthem being sung in Spanish. The interviewer said, "So you disagree with your husband about this?" She said "No, it should only be sung in English." With a straight face. These people are bald-faced liars, so they can have anything they want however they want it. At least, for now. |
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I'm all for allowing immagrents into the USA since it brings in a new influx of ideas, innovation, strong work ethic and talent. The reason the USA was always a leader in technology and business was because of the injection of new life into our society. My main concern is having 12,000,000 illegal and undocumented people running around. That's 5% to 10% of our work force that is probably not paying taxes and will probably end up getting benifiets at some point. Most employers are paying the illegal workers under the table so they're bypassing financial responsilities as well. There's a big difference between those that enter a country legally and those that do not. I'm sure that you parents and my ancentors entered this country legally but what does that have to do with the 12,000,000 that did not? |
I think Tamara makes a great point about how some of the hatred against those illegal immigrants is just bad old xenophobia. Ideas about man eating dogs and such... These are people who are taking huge risks for themselves to hopefully provide a better future for their children. It's the most natural thing in the world and I applaud them for it.
Sir Moby, of course legally would be a whole lot better for all concerned. But can they get into the country legally? As a poor Mexican living on the other side of the border, how can you get into America legally? Maybe think about helping them make that transition into legal immigrants instead of coming up with crazy ideas of how to throw more hurdles in their way. Not everything can be solved using brute force. |
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I'm not against having the Mexican workers here. I am against having them here illegally and having employers higher them illegally. Find a way to make it legal and stop this BS about needing to have an illegal, undocumented and untaxed work force. That is simply not true but it is cheap for those that pay off our politicians. |
The current "ever republican president we have an amnesty" thing is just bullshit. It means that the people who worked hardest to get around the law are the ones allowed to stay, and the ones who applied for visas and stayed at home won't get in.
Too many criminals, gang members, and drug dealers are sneaking in, and then getting citizenship because the republicans are too soft to do something about the problem and too concerned with trying to buy some hispanic votes at the next poll. It stinks like month old fish. Alex |
bush is a damn joke...... he makes no sense on any issue at all
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