If there's a way to make money they'll find it..|yawn|

Besides it's getting cold round ya and Miami should be
sounding great..
What part of Chi you from by the way??
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I lived downtown (700 W, 300 S - Right on the outskirts of Greek Town) for years. After we had the kids we moved out to the Western Surburbs.

It's quiet out here....


Where you at?

In Arkansas right now but I was born and raised in Melrose Park
and still own a condo I rent out at 30 East Division 1/2 block east
of State.
Have 2 Brothers in Elmhurst and still go back a few days a month..
Usually hang out on the North Side of Chi or in Stone Park when I'm back there..
I use the name Toker on other boards by the way.
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My BIL is a Cop in Stone Park. |thumb

30 E. Division. That must be a nice. Much better then about 800 W Division. :D

They tore Cabrini Green down didn't they?
I used to go up on the roof at 30 E and I could watch the gangs
pop caps at each other at Cabrini. 30 E is a 17 story HighRise and
I bought a 1400 sq ft 2 bedroom on the 16th floor in 1979 when
the bank took it back from the Management co over nonpayment
of the mortgage.
I knew every Bartender on Rush in the late 70s and 80s.
I used to go to Greek Town once in awhile to eat also..


And as far as Stone Park, I couldn't get arrested in SP or Melrose
when I was growing up. How long has you BIL been on the force.
There's a SGT there named Ron Fabiani or Ron Fabs I've known
since he ran a joint in the basement at 25th and lake called
The Basement, A 24 hour joint owned by Rocky DeGraza.

I could tell ya and your BIL some stories about both those towns
in the 70s and 80s...
The guy that ran Stone Park was named Rocky Prano and back
then everything was mobbed up..

Now I wind up in Carls on Mannhiem Rd after 3Am when I'm in
town usually..
Gotta go...Later.Dave
PS You know Tommy at the TGP called Bubbashouse???

PSS Do you still stay in touch with CelticTiger??
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You 2 gonna share a room in Vegas?

I'm bared from Vegas............|jester|

Did you throw a chair down the atrium at someone?

|pokefun| No, was more on the line of too much Pickled Eggs and Beer
and an enclosed elevator!

I sent some feedback via their site the other day and got a reply about it.

I am going to talk with the Senior Show Manager (Renee Johnson) on the phone. Probably today around lunch time.

Anyone have any more feedback they would like me to relay to her? (Constructive criticism only please, not just a slam.)

My constructive criticism would be that I was talked into going to the show in Jan 2006 by Farley & it stunk, so I see no need to give them a 3rd chance.

I honestly think it's too little too late.

I really just have one suggestion that I believe will only bring the show back from the deep. Sell it to a company that knows about webmasters.

The show floor keeps getting worse and the current process of charging an arm and a leg doesn't seem to make it any better. There's bar on the floor but if I want to take my wife there it will cost us $500 US so obviously I'm not going there and many of the people that I know will never bother with the floor.

I can book a room for less else where or maybe even at the same hotel for less or at least the same amount. I'll meet everyone that I want to see some place other then the show floor.

Basically, why should I give them a dime when I can go, spend less money and do all the business that I need done without them?

Would be interesting to see how they handle the "circle bar" when the show floor closes down (5pm?) :)

Serious critism:

-Make an option for lower priced show badges. People bring their wives and employees and should have an option for a lower price for those people. They will NOT attend seminars so have a $125-150 price offered or something. To pay $750 for me an 2 employees to go and not attend a single seminar is INSANE!!!

-Maybe look for a better "center bar" option that is open until 2-3am. The show floor is just stupid.

X BIZ is just a few weeks after Vegas. I'll buy the first round |cheers|

Why does it seem that each year the show gets smaller and the prices get higher? Come on AVN!!! Wake up! I think it maybe to late :(

A low-priced badge boosts model attendance which makes the show a happier place ;-) and having a bar where everyone can hang out is a great idea, but if it is on the show floor and only open during show floor hours that will be a candidate for an Edsel Award.

So how'd it go?

I forgot I had a dentist appointment yesterday.
They are drilling out my old fillings and replacing them with new ones.
(ouch)

Hopefully I'll talk with her today.

LOL, great analogy. I preferto go to webmaster access in LA and the phoenix forum. Nothing personal aginst AVN but if I'm going to budget for a few shows a year I have to make sure they will be the most productive possible.

Translation: Kenny is afraid of Las Vegas wedding chapels ;-)

Live and learn, luckily I got out cheap, thank the lord for that |bow|

I don't think I'll do that again, but I am planning a trip to Vegas with my g/f after the LA show, so ya never know! |banghead|

So it sounds like no one is going to the Vegas show this year...

It's been a while since i've gone to any of the shows. I was thinking about going to a few this year... What are the good ones to hit these days?

I think there will be a lot of us in Vegas, but only aobut 50% will have AVN Badges - IMHO they're not worth the $250.

XBiz's summer show in Vegas was great. They are having one in LA right after the Super Bowl (I can't go due to prior plans)