Can sponsors tell whether or not a sale has come from a zango/180 solutions affiliate?

I'm starting to get REALLY worried about this as my sales are at a lower level than when I first started making freesites back in March.
I'm aware that it's very easy to get sucked into blaming lack of sales the first suspicious thing you can think of, but the way my sales have plummeted is very worrying, especially since I'm sending more & more unique visitors to sponsors every day, but getting less and less sales.
This month, apart from some good bought webcam traffic, I've had three signups. Count 'em - three!
I was expecting to be at just over one sale per day by now, and my figures from the last six months showed me I was there, but things have just dropped off. in the last couple of weeks.
Sorry to moan, but it's scary to think my little sale-per-day could be being stolen.
|huh

I tried to click a couple of smaller sponsor links on my site (non-cam non-dating) and nothing happened. I saw no popups, so I guess we are just having a bad month and sales will pick up soon. It should get back to normal as long as you got traffic and clicks. And of course pray that people won´t start stealing more paysite clicks.

Do you have an infected computer? If not, your clicking is 'normal'. You have to have it installed on a computer in order to see the effects of it.

**Also, some folks are reporting that it's 'calmed' down now and not hijacking links with all the heat they are getting across a lot of boards - same pattern as earlier in the year.**

I installed it to try my links. I just hope it doesn´t get worse now.

Considering the sneaky practices they've already proven themselves capable of doing, it must be difficult not to succumb to using absolute power. |shocking|

Oddly enough...sales have picked up slightly in the past 48 hours or so too. Things that make ya go hmmm...

They'll wait for the dust to settle a bit, but the technology is out there. I'd suspect they won't stop for long |club|

I've been busy reading these treads. I am working with a few REALLY BIG webmasters and we are about to take the fight to them.

Zango on /.
 

Zango Under Fire From Adult Webmasters

Some interesting posts there... aparently many people feel that it's ok to steal in some cases. |bigfuckin

Reminds me of the way so many people turned a blind eye when some passionate new power monger proposed eliminating the weaker members of society so everyone else could flourish... by the time the rest of the world was ready to cry out in protest, too many had already been killed... |sad|

...

Nother thread about Zango, in case anyone missed it:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=35146

Yeah, sorry. I should have posted in that thread... didn't think about it. This shit's got me worked up like nothing else |catfight|

Everything about this crap should be kept up on top for everyone to get pissed off about every day IMO. |banghead| |banghead|

I started building and submitting sites very recently but I've been planing to get into this for a long time, and I've invested a LOT of time for virtually nothing so far!
But that's fine... I have no problems with working for nothin' as long as I believe that it'll EVENTUALLY pay off... and I suspect that many, if not most,
people who're getting into this feel the same way.

However, If I would have had the slightest idea of what these mother fucking Zango
kind of leaches are doing, I probably wouldn't have bothered with any of it... MY bad!!!

And why the hell would some SPONSORS be on board with this??
That's GOT to be counterproductive in the long run... starving your affiliates like this, no?
But maybe they're not in it for the long run.. huh?

What I can't believe is that it's been going on somewhat since 2004 and it's getting lots of attention just now?.. or is it? How could I have missed it? I've been reading boards for a long time!
There should be riots i every city and village of every nation on our dear globe by now! :)

Like you said virgohippy:
It's been 2+ years, too many have been killed and it's time to stand up and cry out!! |cry|

So for all you vets with greater power and bigger brains, let me know where to sign up for the rally and I'm there... I'll even bring my own pitchfork!

Btw, I found a post by SmokeyTheBear over at gfy.com with an idea of how to beat Zango.
I've been doing some experimenting with it since last night but as I don't have a whole hell of a lot of traffic, I can't really say if it'll make a difference so far..
Did anyone else with some substantial amount of traffic see and try this solution yet?

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=zango

|attention |angry| |huh |club| |chainsaw|



Am I overreacting?

Interesting idea... but if tactics like this are used wide scale then ultimately it'll just become a pissing match between coders as Zango adapts to webmaster tactics, and webmasters adapt to Zango adaptations... and the surfers still potentially suffer from yet even slower load times, more security holes, and non-loading pages. |sad|

Another thing too: as a matter of principle, Zango shouldn't be able to grab one dime the way they do, but it seems like a lot of webmasters who indicated this is the first time they've become fully aware of the issue almost immediately implied Zango is the reason.

Let me go on record saying that I blame my lack of recent productivity on my far too long interlude from the fresh freesite crafting game. |thumb

And no, I don't think you're overreacting. You're venting your frustration on a public forum... that's healthy. If you bought a gun and a plane ticket then I'd say you might be overracting. |loony|

We are not so big masters, but if we can do something with this shit post here our actions, please. This is a real EVIL for all webmasters and we have to fight together everywhere at any time, i think.

My sales problems are probably due to a combination of things, not least promoting new sponsors and new niches and spreading those hits out etc etc.
I doubt that Zango affiliates have stolen any of my sales, but it's hard not to point the finger when your numbers look so bad compared to previous months.
The idea that another webmaster can simply muscle in on a sale that I'd generated is enough to make my blood boil, but the first person I'm looking at regarding bad ratios is me.
:(

Interesting reading on GFY, and I see that Legendary Lars has made a statement and has taken some stick about it.

The best thing that could have happened was this getting the attention it's now getting. Some things will change. Most likely the sponsors that have been secretly using Zango will probably decrease from the heat they are now receiving.

marc

hello i'm new there (not US or UK so forgive about my bad english)
although i work in X biz for over 4 years now

i just saw my sales were ... slow and traffic higher so i went on one of my sponsor's board and saw a link to there

i realized i was affiliate at LOUDCASH two years ago ( just tried it like two months and stopped it, it sucked and in fact i did not like te whole process, anyway ....) and now i see that LOUDCASH became ZANGO CASH ...

so by reading this thread i had a versy special feeling down my spine ...
tried to go to loudcash and get in my "used-to-be-loudcash" account but "userd id is disabled"

don't know if i'm really in trouble with this i mean : i don't run a freesite, i just post gals to TGPs, do you think these guys can suck my traffic and links ?

anyway these kind of methods really piss me off, i hope they' ll be taken down in any possible way

It's your choice but I'm wondering why you're still promoting AFF. Are they now "clean"?

I know they're not the only ones involved - but your site is something of a litmus paper.

LARS WAS FORCED!!!

FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!!!

Haha :D

Zanga stupid bitch. I fuck his moyher in the ass.

mistake, "mother"

Hmmm
crackerseb = berserk cac
analgetic = anal getic (it doesn't get any better)

*** I AM RUSSIAN CHEATER, FUCKING SHIT ***

Sorry for my brocken english :)

Analgetic and eman - your posts are offtopic, please stop it.

I think that some of these methods can work:

1) Contact all antispyware software creators and ask them to make an update to delete this shit.
It would be good to make Microsoft to delete Zango too in their windows updates, but I'm afraid it's impossible.

2) Ask big adverts like myspace do not promote Zango.

3) Ask sponsors do not pay Zango.

Ask all SEs to not link to sites that install this garbage.
Ask all hosting companies to auto-delete the malware.