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nickbaauw 2009-06-10 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester (Post 453767)
unfortunately, IT DID HAPPEN. I dont think LD came here to spout off about false accusations. So what sucks is that a honest webmaster - as far as I know - was accused of fraud and withheld payment. So now what?

NY Yester, programs these days are getting attacked my massive amounts of fraudulent webmasters... ( 100's of them daily )
We created a system to detect and ban these people... even this far that I locked down our programs on manual approval for webmasters..

Unfortunately on any new system some slip through that are not supposed to be banned...we are working hardcore on making sure in the near future this does not happen again... to prevent all this our sales staff is available 24/7 to make sure to deal with it fast..

Unfortunately I cannot personally monitor every single webmaster board out there.. thats why on every new site post/thread/affiliate program webmaster page we have our list of support staff ready for every webmaster out there...

Allfetish 2009-06-10 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw (Post 453790)
NY Yester, programs these days are getting attacked my massive amounts of fraudulent webmasters... ( 100's of them daily )
We created a system to detect and ban these people... even this far that I locked down our programs on manual approval for webmasters..

Unfortunately on any new system some slip through that are not supposed to be banned...we are working hardcore on making sure in the near future this does not happen again... to prevent all this our sales staff is available 24/7 to make sure to deal with it fast..

Well it sounds as if the software doing this needs to be redone. The OP states they have been promoting you for a year. Perhaps if the webmaster has been promoting you for such a long time and has been making legitimate sales during that time, a thorough manual check should be done before banning them.

Anyway, I'm just glad that you are paying them...nothing more for me to say. Credit to you for at least doing that...

NY Jester 2009-06-10 09:13 PM

Nickbauww, I am not disputing the fact that there is fraud, both by webmasters and programs alike. I was simply stating that it sucks when honest hard working webmasters get caught up in BS and then have to prove themselves to get their money. honestly, I think if he were going to fraud "you" he'd of not done so just to make his minimum. I just hope it all gets worked out.

Senator_x 2009-06-11 12:09 PM

I think you should give him triple the money for his troubles.

jacklynlick 2009-06-11 02:39 PM

Hey there,
Wow........... I had never experienced anything like that (except when IBILL failed YEARS AGO!) They withheld my money, and I still have never received it.

However, I am with Rude, and I have done VERY well with them, and they have paid me ontime everytime. Just to let you guys know. (Evidently rude is one of their sites) http://www.rude.com/jacklynlick

The only thing I don't like about rude is that if someone goes there, and they click ANYTHING else other than the join page, I don't get credit for that person joining. But, to their credit, the people that I knew joined up under me (specific fans), I let them know and I was paid. But, it was too hard for me to try to keep track of everyone, so, I don't promote them as much anymore. Great site though!

Love,
Jackie

centrerelax 2009-06-12 07:59 PM

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nickbaauw 2009-06-14 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator_x (Post 453929)
I think you should give him triple the money for his troubles.

Emailed our admin lady to pay him extra for lost traffic

nickbaauw 2009-06-14 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklynlick (Post 453943)
Hey there,
Wow........... I had never experienced anything like that (except when IBILL failed YEARS AGO!) They withheld my money, and I still have never received it.

However, I am with Rude, and I have done VERY well with them, and they have paid me ontime everytime. Just to let you guys know. (Evidently rude is one of their sites) http://www.rude.com/jacklynlick

The only thing I don't like about rude is that if someone goes there, and they click ANYTHING else other than the join page, I don't get credit for that person joining. But, to their credit, the people that I knew joined up under me (specific fans), I let them know and I was paid. But, it was too hard for me to try to keep track of everyone, so, I don't promote them as much anymore. Great site though!

Love,
Jackie


Jackie dear! I will have my brother danny get in touch with you :) anything you need Danny will get it done :)

nickbaauw 2009-06-14 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester (Post 453868)
Nickbauww, I am not disputing the fact that there is fraud, both by webmasters and programs alike. I was simply stating that it sucks when honest hard working webmasters get caught up in BS and then have to prove themselves to get their money. honestly, I think if he were going to fraud "you" he'd of not done so just to make his minimum. I just hope it all gets worked out.

in this case 1 minute icq to me would have been enough

LD 2009-06-14 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw (Post 454212)
in this case 1 minute icq to me would have been enough

Nick, I went to your webmaster page which showed several contacts. I emailed "Vipesh", affiliate manager, who in turn emailed mitza, who in turn told me my account was banned for fraud.

I did not know I was supposed to contact you after having corresponded with two people at Elitedollars...There are six contacts on your contact page, and there is no mention that you are the one to contact in situations like this.

I certainly appreciate your stepping in and getting this problem resolved, and had I known you were the person who would fix things, I certainly would have contacted you first...

centrerelax 2009-06-14 11:31 PM

that bad :(
mee,too :(

jacklynlick 2009-06-15 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw (Post 454211)
Jackie dear! I will have my brother danny get in touch with you :) anything you need Danny will get it done :)


Hey there Nick,
Thank you.............. I appreciate that! I don't know that anything can be done. That has to be done on the programming end with cookies or something! There is no way I can try to keep track, it takes up far too much time. But, if they fix that, let me know!! :)

I think rude rocks!
Love,
Jackie

nickbaauw 2009-06-15 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight (Post 454213)
Nick, I went to your webmaster page which showed several contacts. I emailed "Vipesh", affiliate manager, who in turn emailed mitza, who in turn told me my account was banned for fraud.

I did not know I was supposed to contact you after having corresponded with two people at Elitedollars...There are six contacts on your contact page, and there is no mention that you are the one to contact in situations like this.

I certainly appreciate your stepping in and getting this problem resolved, and had I known you were the person who would fix things, I certainly would have contacted you first...

Again sorry for the inconvenience, Im always around :) thanks

nickbaauw 2009-06-15 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklynlick (Post 454217)
Hey there Nick,
Thank you.............. I appreciate that! I don't know that anything can be done. That has to be done on the programming end with cookies or something! There is no way I can try to keep track, it takes up far too much time. But, if they fix that, let me know!! :)

I think rude rocks!
Love,
Jackie

Its quite the site alright - just checked out your profile... THATS HOT! :) send you some chips as well all I had on my account for now |waves|

Danny B 2009-06-15 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklynlick (Post 453943)
Hey there,
Wow........... I had never experienced anything like that (except when IBILL failed YEARS AGO!) They withheld my money, and I still have never received it.

However, I am with Rude, and I have done VERY well with them, and they have paid me ontime everytime. Just to let you guys know. (Evidently rude is one of their sites) http://www.rude.com/jacklynlick

The only thing I don't like about rude is that if someone goes there, and they click ANYTHING else other than the join page, I don't get credit for that person joining. But, to their credit, the people that I knew joined up under me (specific fans), I let them know and I was paid. But, it was too hard for me to try to keep track of everyone, so, I don't promote them as much anymore. Great site though!

Love,
Jackie

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Greenguy 2009-06-15 07:52 AM

Nick - I keep reading how you're always around & that you should have been contacted, but the fact is that YOUR PEOPLE fucked up on this. LusciousDelight contacted YOUR PEOPLE and they blew him off. You really need to educate YOUR PEOPLE so that problems like this do not happen again.

Not everyone knows who to contact with every program. But regardless of who is contacted with a program, the help/response should be the same.

So please, stop saying that if you were contacted it'd been solved. Your company was contacted & it was not solved until it was brought to the boards & I know LusciousDelight did that as a last resort.

Allfetish 2009-06-15 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw (Post 454212)
in this case 1 minute icq to me would have been enough

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

Quote:

Victim blaming is holding the victims of a crime, an accident, or any type of abusive maltreatment to be entirely or partially responsible for the unfortunate incident that has occurred in their life. Victim blaming is a typical fascist trait,[1] infamously expressed in arguments like "a raped woman in a short skirt was asking for it". Historically victim-blaming has often emerged in racist and sexist forms.[2] It is also about blaming individuals for their personal distress or for social difficulties, rather than the other parties involved or the overarching social system in place.

hashbury 2009-06-15 09:53 AM

How funny is it that as soon as LD reached his min payout, He was then banned after contacting them to get payed. It seems really flakey to me, or could just be a case of a company to big to properly manage its affiliates. Would anyone that was scamming a company really try to contact them after being banned?

jacklynlick 2009-06-15 02:11 PM

Wow!! I was surprised when I saw a tip in my rude account......... and low and behold it matched a name I recognized here! THANKS NICK!! :)

Love,
Jackie



Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw (Post 454225)
Its quite the site alright - just checked out your profile... THATS HOT! :) send you some chips as well all I had on my account for now |waves|


pc 2009-06-15 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashbury (Post 454250)
How funny is it that as soon as LD reached his min payout, He was then banned after contacting them to get payed. It seems really flakey to me, or could just be a case of a company to big to properly manage its affiliates. Would anyone that was scamming a company really try to contact them after being banned?

and how do you contact them if all available contacts are dead.
Must assume that there are more cases like this with webmasters who tried to contact anyone from "elitedollars" and they simply didn't respond.

SheepGuy 2009-06-15 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashbury (Post 454250)
How funny is it that as soon as LD reached his min payout, He was then banned after contacting them to get payed. It seems really flakey to me, or could just be a case of a company to big to properly manage its affiliates. Would anyone that was scamming a company really try to contact them after being banned?

It's not funny at all, it's the way too many paysites do business. They assume guilt on the webmaster's part when the check comes due.
If LD hadn't made a stink about this he wouldn't have got paid.
Contact information that doesn't put you in touch with the person who actually makes the decisions is all part of the runaround.

It seems a lot of paysites like to accuse honest wm's of fraud.
Why?
Because there is money in it for them.

hashbury 2009-06-15 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 454306)
It's not funny at all, it's the way too many paysites do business. They assume guilt on the webmaster's part when the check comes due.
If LD hadn't made a stink about this he wouldn't have got paid.
Contact information that doesn't put you in touch with the person who actually makes the decisions is all part of the runaround.

It seems a lot of paysites like to accuse honest wm's of fraud.
Why?
Because there is money in it for them.

I didnt mean funny ha ha, I meant shady funny.
The second he hit the min, his account was basically banned, come on.
Youre right, if he did not come here he would have never gotten paid.

SheepGuy 2009-06-15 08:39 PM

I knew what you meant bro, funny, just funny, no amusement value.

centrerelax 2009-06-16 03:43 AM

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centrerelax 2009-06-16 04:58 AM

do you pay ontime ?
1 and 15 and no hold
Great site :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 454227)
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You can also create your own links, enabling you to make a landing page out of any page on Rude.com

And here's the other sites we offer:

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www.RudeArchives.com – Standalone site focused on the Private Show Archives.
www.CollectMyClips.com – Standalone site focused on Premium Clips uploaded by Rude.com members.
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