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RedCherry 2010-08-02 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltar (Post 487503)
Daily submits of free sites, tgp galleries, blog posts, SE work, and misc. building and uploading, as well as keeping up with a few boards(and mine) and my own private tgps and traffic generators...
but i'm lazy so thats about all each day..

Hello! Good to see you here! |waves| (aka VegasBabe)

RedCherry 2010-08-02 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 485557)
I did my first hybrid site in a very long time today.
http://shemaletstop.com/samples/tgir...ics/index.html
Going to see if all the places that I submit to take it or not.

We would take that too. |thumb

Voltar 2010-08-02 08:23 PM

well hello stranger, hope all is well with you..and you been doing that daily grind as well :)
come to think of it..that could mean several things ..hehehe..

hincapie 2010-08-03 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MeatPounder (Post 487507)
Most likely why your fetish sites are so nice :)

Haha cheers |jester|

RedCherry 2010-08-04 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltar (Post 487529)
well hello stranger, hope all is well with you..and you been doing that daily grind as well :)
come to think of it..that could mean several things ..hehehe..

Other than some bronchitis MadHatter and I have been fighting for weeks, we are doing great. Adopted a bunch of feral cats, and have been getting them all fixed, took some in our house is about the only new exciting thing in our lives, lol. Mostly its just work and enjoying each other and our cats. :)

Hope you are doing good too, glad to see you here.

Voltar 2010-08-05 12:04 AM

Well by the end of this month i'll have well hit my goal of a 120 new free sites built in various niches and sponsors, so as to re-evaluate them for the rest of the year and this winter to come...going to be doing alot of comparisons and see what converts the best for me in these times...going to be fun, interesting, and i think worthwhile :)

RedCherry 2010-08-05 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltar (Post 487674)
Well by the end of this month i'll have well hit my goal of a 120 new free sites built in various niches and sponsors, so as to re-evaluate them for the rest of the year and this winter to come...going to be doing alot of comparisons and see what converts the best for me in these times...going to be fun, interesting, and i think worthwhile :)

Good for you! I've been doing a lot more TGP submits, have paid accounts with Tommy's, Richards Realm, and Pink World. That has helped us alot...been doing 3 a day for a few years now. Just started re-submitting free sites in bulk to try and beef the income up more.

We also run several blogs, and use twitter and facebook to to work the social networks to promote our sites. Always trying new avenues to get surfers in front of the porn.

For me, up-selling my AVS sites still beats hands down any sponsor I push. I do a lot of micro niche fetishes, plus we have been creating exclusive 3D content now for a few years, and have some big 3D sites. Still amazes me at times I can sell picture only sites as well as I do. |thumb

RedCherry 2010-08-05 10:04 AM

Do you twitter Voltar? You'd get a hoot out of MadHatter's redneck twitter. http://twitter.com/redneckpornblog

We have several more
http://twitter.com/theredcherrycom
http://twitter.com/pornforwomen
http://twitter.com/3dfantasyporn

if you would like to friend us, and we will do the same to you.

dif0r 2010-08-05 11:28 AM

I used to submit a FS every second days but now.. 10/year ?|huh

RedCherry 2010-08-05 01:50 PM

I'm curious, the people that don't submit free sites any more, why not?

You do all TGP/Pic Post/Twitter/FB/Something else instead?

Moved on to different things?

No traffic, less traffic?

Poor conversions?

All of the above?

I know I originally stopped doing as many because with paid TGP submits, I could get much more traffic in front of my galleries than my free sites.

But, free sites still sell for me, so now I'm doing both to try and beef up my income. And I can only submit so many TGP's a day, and this gives me twice the exposure, even if it doesn't give me 2x the traffic.

Voltar 2010-08-05 08:27 PM

[quote=RedCherry;487709]Do you twitter Voltar? You'd get a hoot out of MadHatter's redneck twitter. [url]QUOTE]

honestly, i have looked into it, but never had the time..same with facebook...jsut dabbled in both on the local strippers thing i was messing with a few back...
but that's all..nothing left of them now that i know of..

bDok 2010-08-05 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry (Post 487736)

But, free sites still sell for me, so now I'm doing both to try and beef up my income. And I can only submit so many TGP's a day, and this gives me twice the exposure, even if it doesn't give me 2x the traffic.

Quoted for truth. I'm working on building up a bunch of blogs. Both tube blogs and regular picture blogs. Both niche based ones as well as a whole porn star network. I have a lot of work to go.

I know we had talked about AVS sites and i purchased a bunch of content and have been so lazy on that front getting that out the gates. Ugh. It's one thing that before year end NEEDS to get going.

Bah. So much work to get done. What I will say is I'd rather be in that position with ideas to try then not have a clue of what to work on. |thumb

Jel 2010-08-06 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry (Post 487736)
I'm curious, the people that don't submit free sites any more, why not?

Less traffic, less sales, basically less ROI. Add to that the strict rules that hinder (yes I know they are there for a reason - bookmarkers to the LLs - I've zero problem with that, and wouldn't try and tell a LL owner what his or her rules should be), and it's a far better use of my personal working time to produce sites that I have 100% control over my amounts of content, ads, popunders, sales text, questionable blind links, amount of link trades, and so on.

I hear the people who say they do FS as an addition to those types of sites, but personally speaking, I do an additional same type of site, where I can do all the aforementioned (1st time I've ever used that word I think lol).

Anyway, there's my reasons for no longer doing free sites :)

LB 2010-08-06 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry (Post 487736)
I'm curious, the people that don't submit free sites any more, why not?

You do all TGP/Pic Post/Twitter/FB/Something else instead?

Moved on to different things?

No traffic, less traffic?

Poor conversions?

All of the above?

I know I originally stopped doing as many because with paid TGP submits, I could get much more traffic in front of my galleries than my free sites.

But, free sites still sell for me, so now I'm doing both to try and beef up my income. And I can only submit so many TGP's a day, and this gives me twice the exposure, even if it doesn't give me 2x the traffic.

Did a run of free sites late last year for a month, and made some sales. Not really worth my time, but still you can get a bit of traffic.

Would start again if the LL / Freesite model reinvented itself .. eg more content, more sensible recip rules, allow a ton more recips or possibly a single main page with them all, allow more marketing and marketing methods, etc etc. Oh and getting with the times and allowing submitters like Chameleon ... the days of manually submitting are long gone and unneccessary.

I think freesite submits are still worth doing for a newbie or someone where getting an extra few sales a month is a big deal, but for higher volume peeps its probably not worth the time.

Nymph 2010-08-06 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LB (Post 487796)
Would start again if the LL / Freesite model reinvented itself .. eg more content, more sensible recip rules, allow a ton more recips or possibly a single main page with them all, allow more marketing and marketing methods, etc etc. Oh and getting with the times and allowing submitters like Chameleon ... the days of manually submitting are long gone and unneccessary.

Are you saying we got too clean? This was touched on in last week's OTB

Greenguy 2010-08-06 09:28 AM

LB - I put these rules into effect TWO years ago:
http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/therules.htm
I think most if not all of your problems are addressed & now accepted based on the Trusted Submitter status (which I'd have no problem giving you)

LB 2010-08-06 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nymph (Post 487816)
Are you saying we got too clean? This was touched on in last week's OTB

Pardon my ignorance but what is an OTB ? :)

LB 2010-08-06 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 487822)
LB - I put these rules into effect TWO years ago:
http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/therules.htm
I think most if not all of your problems are addressed & now accepted based on the Trusted Submitter status (which I'd have no problem giving you)

Ah ok I hadn't seen that... but a step in the right direction. :)

Cleo 2010-08-06 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LB (Post 487832)
Pardon my ignorance but what is an OTB ? :)

It's every Saturday
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=58439

RedCherry 2010-08-06 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LB (Post 487796)
Oh and getting with the times and allowing submitters like Chameleon ... the days of manually submitting are long gone and unneccessary.

I use Chameleon for TGP's, but I use Robo Form's Filler for link lists. I have a page of links to the submit page, click the link go to the page, opening them on a new tab. Right click on the form, it fills it out, some I have to change a few things, then click submit. Its not quite as fast, but since I submit to the same ones over and over, I can submit a site in like 3 - 10 seconds for the most part.

And yea, I still have issues at times with it filling out my Name for the NAME of the site (and don't catch them occasionally) but for the most part, it works really well and is fast.

I then turn around in a week or so, and use one of the galleries for submits to TGP's, bringing in fresh traffic, and spider action. Then a few weeks later, submit the other gallery. Then 1 to 3 months later, I watch google and yahoo traffic come in. So over the long run, it is worth it to me.

Cleo 2010-08-06 01:11 PM

I really couldn't care less what someone uses to fill out my forms as long as it's filled out correctly.

RedCherry 2010-08-06 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 487849)
I really couldn't care less what someone uses to fill out my forms as long as it's filled out correctly.

I agree with that!

RedCherry 2010-08-06 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 487849)
I really couldn't care less what someone uses to fill out my forms as long as it's filled out correctly.

And remember to put recips on before submitting, which I forgot yesterday I think, until I got to a site that checked for recips. Was hoping I got them on before anyone checked and noticed they were gone. |couch|

JustRobert 2010-08-06 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LB
Oh and getting with the times and allowing submitters like Chameleon ... the days of manually submitting are long gone and unneccessary.
I may be way wrong about this but, I would rather link to a non mirrored freesite with Greenie's recip on it then link to mirror 25 with mine on it.

I also believe that treating a Linklist like a TGP will make things worse for LL's not better. Once again, I could be foolishly wrong about this.

LB 2010-08-06 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRobert (Post 487861)
I may be way wrong about this but, I would rather link to a non mirrored freesite with Greenie's recip on it then link to mirror 25 with mine on it.

I also believe that treating a Linklist like a TGP will make things worse for LL's not better. Once again, I could be foolishly wrong about this.

I totally agree.

If I could do a single freesite with 100 recips on just a single entry page I would, but linklists for some reason hate that. Works fine for my blogs with 100+ link trades on a main page, and a LL recip is merely another form of link trade. I think LL's got hit hard by the dupe content changes in the engines over the years, and having multiple mirrors of the sites feeding them links didn't help.


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