I think some webmasters forget how they got their start, and maybe their ego grows a bit... not sure... |potleaf|

No that isn't it. The business has changed. We now get thousands of submits each week from webmasters that either don't know what they are doing, using some auto submit program to spam us, submitting under many different names and e-mails, submitting the exact same template every day, the list goes on.

It isn't like this never was a problem, it's just that now there seems to be entire countries of webmasters doing it. They are ruining it for the newbies and everyone else too. :(

Thanks for your reply Cleo. I do understand how you feel, as I get submissions similiar to what you are talking about.

And those guys do need to be banned.... I am only trying to help the honest webmaster from being banned because of the bad ones. Which I know there are a shitload.

:)

Again, thanks for your reply, I can kind of see your side of things a bit better now.

Lowry, for the most part, most link sites get more than enough good submissions as to not need to deal with crappy stuff. You can't improve people who are using site building tools, standard templates, sponsor content, and autosubmitters to pile on the useless submissions. Nothing I say to these people will change the way it is for them. Most of these people submit the same site (different index pages) to hundreds of links sites each day using their little autosubmit tools. They don't even bother to check to see if they get listed, and they almost always are using email drop boxes that go to dev/null or never get checked.

Their system doesn't take into consideration that actual humans have to review their crappy sites, that they create endless work for link site webmasters, and make life just suck.

I closed my TGPs exactly for this reason - at one point I was getting more than 2000 shitty useless console popping scumware downloading pieces of crappy overused sponsor content crap galleries.

They can come here and learn if they really want to, but I suspect 99% of them just don't care.

Alex

Alex, in that case, I can completely understand, and that is not what I was really referring too...

I know you're a good man! |shake|

In this biz as in any biz when you have been around for a while and mastered what you do you can look at others work and tell if they are going to make it or not. It's just that simple.

It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with people NOT reading the rules and rejection responses.

I send out rejection emails with a brief explanation of what is wrong. Yet the same DUMMY keeps sending sites with the same error. I give him the benefit of the doubt and don't ban him for 3-4 days. Figure a few rejections saying the same thing gives him plenty of time to stop submitting it but it doesn't. Ban Time!

We are here to help not to ban I aggree with Ramster :) I never ban for submitting unless your cheating at that.

surfn let me know, so as i dont waste any more time

I have always been notoriously easy when reviewing sites but unforunately even I have decided to start enforcing rules and banning webmasters... it's a time management thing for most linksites now... too many webmasters scattergun submits and dont care who doesnt list them.. trouble is, if you dont ban the ones that are obviously never going to be accepted.. you dont have time to look after everyone else properly :\

You can make as long as you keep listening and learning. I learn new things everyday. :)