Those domains don't sound very legal to me? |skull|

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First, I'm not from the Hqhost staff. I'm their customer and just use this quality hosting along with it's perfect support and very friendly management.

But if u guys ban hqhost, who will be be the next ones? Right, another hosting companies. Because cheaters will move their cheating domains to other hostings. It might take only 30 minutes to move ALL their sites... ONLY 30 minutes to completely register new domains and move the content.
This is not a solution.. Obviously, no cheater will stop cheating after banning some hosting. ..

2 All Owners
I think a solution might be in dealing with Hqhost management. I think if respected GreenGuy or Cleo or another owner report a cheating occasion to HQhost support (who's always online and speak good english) they will close a cheater's account immediately
Anyway try to contact Hqhost support and talk to them briefly. Hit them up at ICQ: #1050994
Your assistant would be appreciated by thousands of russian webmasters and your surfers as well :)
Just look, how much good free sites are listed from hqhost.
We are suffer from fucking cheatears as well as u...

I think Hqhost became a "heaven for cheaters" because of it's mad popularity and quality. But I'm sure that its management also wants to get rid of them

2RawAlex: I agree that the ones who never abide by rules just pisses off, but IMHO, banning of the respective hosting would not solve the problem..

it does work because untill now the cheaters and most webmaster didnt know that hq host was banned everywhere

on my site if you submit something from a banned host
it just says thank you very myuch
blah blah blah
so the cheaters dont know
and when they move to anther host they wont know if that hosts ips have been banned


what we need to do is get together and set up a list of banned hosts

if a host like hq host has to many cheaters then none of us accept submits on them and clearly state that on our submit pages

when webmasters see that their host is banned at site after site
that takes the problem away from us and dumps it in the hosting companys lap


and honest webmasters would know what hosts not to use

I agree and Hq will think twice about having known cheaters on there servers and I think most hosts should screen there adult webmasters and tell the cheaters to walk and they have some thing looming over them that all LL and tgps will ban a host..

....... and cheaters would :-)




back to my suggestion.
in case of such cooperation in few monthes LL owners will have pretty big database of honest webmasters hosted on such servers.

but yes, it's easier to ban then to cooperate |waves|
but ban much less effective |sad|

how do U imagine "to screen" 20000 domains??? :)

2Tommy: Cheaters will know about banning of Hqhost just tommorrow. And in 2 days they will move to other hostings. It is obviously
And when the honest webmasters move to other hostings as well, they also will not be guaranteed to be not banned cause of cheaters. That's why banning of such a big hosting is not a good solution..

I suggest to contact to the Hqhost staff and cooperate with them.

You don't have applications for hosting? No terms to enforce? No scripts or bots to see who is doing what on your servers?

If the answer is no to any of the above therein lies the problem.

AdvancedHosters - Well If 5 or 10% are cheats, just wait till the honest ones leave and whoever is left ban them and start over and you'll know who not to host:D

plateman

When new domains are added, wouldn't it be pretty easy to spot domains like this?

seerape.com
onlyrape.com
forbiddenrapes.com
forced-rape.com

All of them are hosted at Advanced Hosters. Even if domains are added through a script, it's fairly easy to filter them out, IF you really want to.

How can a hoster separate cheater from a honest webmaster? He needs to watch all his clients. But what to do if he got 10000 clients who post to LL? And 9800 of them do not cheat. Right - hoster need your help, owner

Oh noooo, don't n ban now advanced. i'am only tonight start move my freesites from hq. |angry|

1st think then post.
scripts to filter what? to filter who's breaking some LL rules?
scripts can filter only stupid cheaters.

U really think that i host only those who post to LL? :-) :-) :-)

as i know fantasy rape isn't illegal.
isn't it?
and somebody here mentioned that "drunk mom and son's friend" also unacceptable. it may be unacceptable. but it's not illeagel as long as mom and son's friend are over 18
isn't it?
so "illegal" and "prohibited by LL rules" are little bit different things...

I should think?

Ok, I think you are in this for the money and fuck the honest LL/TGP owners.

I think you can't answer a straightforward question.

I think that it is your hosting and you could stop cheaters anytime you wanted to.

I think you are laughing your ass off all the way to the bank.

could U please explain how will i filter who's cheating and who's not??? do i have to download & print all LL rules and check every f'ing domain if it doesn't break some LL rules???
nonsence :-)

That's exactly why your hosting is banned :D

nice answer :-) i mean very, very very cleaver answer :-)

The truth is never clever it's always simple. :)

truth? the truth is that U just don't have an answer for my last question.

well, there's no sence in this discussion... good luck in banning various hosts :-)

I think the question is why are there so many hosts not full of rape, incest, and cheating fuckers?

Guess these hosts must be a bit more picky of who they will host.

Good luck with your business model AdvancedHosters and may your mom get drunk and raped by the little boys next door while you join in.

Surfn.
Hosting support must delite cheaters and ILLEGAL items. They don't should look YOUR RULES. It's only your rules.
Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!

Very good. It isn't your responsibility. You don't want to answer my questions but want me to answer yours. WTF??? Enjoy your raping honest webmasters by getting taking their money and assuming no responsibility for the crap you host.

You are correct, this conversation is going no where. YOUR hosting was, is, and will be banned.

Have a good day :D

Correct our rules. And you want to submit to us for OUR traffic. I do not think so.

Why MY domain's banned if i don't post bullshit? WHY? Can u say me surfin? And much more webmaster can say u WHY?!
today i change my hosting from hqhost to advansed host. U ban andvansed too? Who will be the next? Give me list..I can't everyday change hosting|angry|

It is our rules and our traffic and if the host would like their clients to be able to share in our traffic then it is up to them not to allow webmasters to be hosted that fuck up everything for the honest webmasters.

There is no FANTASY in rape!

Ask anyone who has been raped!

hqhost
advancedhosters
realitychecknetwork

all banned here !

DD

Any display which appears to be rape, non-consensual sex, or incest is in violation of obscenity laws. Plus, all of those types of porn are for truly sick fucks. No respectable host would allow such shit on their servers.

For a host, it is a huge pain in the balls to screen, filter, and perform spot checks on their clients. But the hosts NEED those clients and NEED them to be clean. Link lists receive so many quality submissions every day, they don't have a reason to deal with shit subs and their hosts. There is nothing motivating them to do so.

Yes, cheaters can migrate to other hosts. But for most hosts, flags go off when they see domains such as those listed above. I tend to believe that most hosts have a much better idea of what is on their servers because they realize that both the adult webmaster community and the authorities will hold them responsible.

oh, another cleaver answer...
but why nobody can say HOW to filter cheaters? how to be "more picky"? how to filter that f'ing 1% out of all customers?


please, no more "cleaver" answers.... just one thing... in 2 monthes let us know if U'll have less cheater submissions... that's all i'd like to know :-)
coz after host ban cheater doesn't disappear... he just moves to other host... so would be interesting to know if there will be less cheaters on the net after hq & ah ban :-)

Ask those hosts to clean up their act and get themselves unbanned. Until then your are THEIR victim. |sad|

i know.
post to great link list gg, cleo and others
i shoul y dedicated server special for u?
Or evere week change hosting becose someone see every where cheaters?
U a crazy?
Why good webmasters have so much trouble?
Or may be better u say directly:
< WE DON't Like RUSSIAN they ALL CHEATERS!>
|skull|

here's the deal. If there was only one cheater in 10,000 domains, it wouldn't be an issue. On hqhost, I am going to say that AT LEAST 1000 domains are bullshit. Rape, redirection pros, etc.

No, we don't expect a host to be able to filter out all the problems, but individual webmasters cannot expect link sites to spend their entire lives trying to filter out all the shit to find the one piece of gold.

Yes, it is a bit like police using "profiling", but in reality, I have a certain amount of time a day that I want to put into reviewing sites, and I want to be listing more sites that are good, not reviewing and declining hundreds of shit sites.

The most economic thing to do is filter IPs, filter emails, and filter hosts.

If the scammers move to another host, we will end up blocking that host too. Sooner or later, the hosts will wise up and get a little more selective in the customers and content they are willing to handle.

Just one of those things...

Alex

Spot on DD. BTW DangerDave can you say if you're pleased with your choice on taking only partner only submissions? Has it decreased your workload significantly?

Where the host is located has nothing to do with our decisions. I've banned hosts here in the States.

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I'm sure you could easily do some searches for undesirable words & terms (rape, incest, l*lita, pret**n, etc) Unless of course, you don't mind having those kinds of sites on your servers.

If I was gonna do this kind of stuff, I'd search for those terms on Google, find a few sites, see where they were hosted & then get an account.


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EXACTLY! Our sites, our rules.


And everyone, please stop saying "the cheaters will just move to new hosting & get new domains" - I say go for it! Spend some cash on new domains, move all your shit to a new host & if they put up with the bullshit, we'll all just ban that host too. Then the cycle can start over again.....

Remember, if you're in a car with 3 other people & the cops pull you over & find an 8 ball on someone, you all get arrested, regardless of if you knew the coke was in the car or not.

Most of us are the same host for years now. And guess what, no rape, incest or KP on those hosts.. try to connect the dots...

Maxline, your sites will still get listed.

AdvancedHosters
your lying, its easy to tell who the cheaters are

the guys that ask for ip numbers, the guys that run nameserver scripts

I am sure you know but just dont care in fact after your posts I am postive of it

and banning your host does make a HUGE difference in cheaters

WEBMASTERS if your an hosnest webmaster and on one of these hosting companys ... your not getting listed ...and I mean anywhere ...and by paying these people you make yourself part of the problem
MOVE to another host ASAP

TGP - LL OWNERS
if you listing these 2 hosts your getting fucked. Block their ip ranges and your cheaters will drop


Hows that for cooperation

While I am just getting back in the links game and haven't had the opportunity to get spammed yet with all these submissions, I figured I'd add my input to this.
From the submitters point, I understand that you don't have much control over what content other people on the same webhost host.
From the LL owners, I can see where getting a bunch of crap submission can get frustrating. It is hard enough to go through the legitimate traffic, let alone the mass of crap as well.

Unfortunatly, for the submitters, I have to side with the LL owners here. I have been using different webhosts for about 10 years now, and I have never been on one which would allow content such as rape, incest, kiddie porn, etc. If I found out they did, then I would be transferring my sites as quickly as possible, because I would hate to have someone say... "Hey, look at KoolKat, he hosts on that host that just got busted for hosting child porn, maybe he is doing it too!". For any host to condone it in the first place is a major issue! After all, they do have to set the accounts up, so seeing something like rape or incest in the URL should be a red flag!
I know there are a lot of legitimate hard working webmasters out there, but unfortunatly these bad ones are making it hard on you. You need to look out for yourself.
There are lots of legitimate web hosts out there that will allow adult content, and web hosting costs are getting lower and lower, so it isn't that hard to move hosts if needed.
For those of you who have been banned... I'm sure the other LL owners would consider removing you from their banned lists if you simply did what they asked. This is beneficial to everyone! Without the link lists, some of you would get very little traffic, but the link lists also need you, so it's not in their best interest to have to ban people. But in the same breath, there are thousands of webmasters trying to get listed, but a lot small number of lists that send huge amounts of traffic!
Overall submitters... it is in your best interest to listen to what these guys (and gals) are saying. You have the most to loose!

Tommy say me honest host list.

Tommy they can choose to be part of the solution or part of the problem. Clearly they have chosen to be part of the problem!

I join with you in asking others to block their IP ranges, NOW!