I apologize.

You're a professional webmaster that runs rape, incest & CP sites.

You're parents must be proud. Make sure you bring that up at the Christmas dinner.

I can not despute the rape, but no incest or cp.
Legal teens and mother & daughters doing the glory hole, but not each other. I think some one must have assumed it was incest because it reads real mother & daughter. GG if I was doing any cp I would not have survived for 10 years. These are unfair accusations I do not appreciate. You must know what cp is here is the definition,
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...6----000-.html

so please, don't accuse me of some thing I am not guilty of.

As for what i do, it pays the bills. I do so much more in my life that is worthwhile that is not associated with porn.

Regards

Jimbo
You are truly the type of person that gives this business a bad name. Weather what you have is real or simulated, it is garbage.

My mistake. I thought that people that have sites like ****** Land - http://www.******land.net/ - are pretty much CP scumbags.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=******
Lo·li·ta ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l-lt)
n.
A seductive adolescent girl.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=adolescent
ad·o·les·cent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dl-snt)
adj.
Of, relating to, or undergoing adolescence. See Synonyms at young.
Characteristic of adolescence; immature: an adolescent sense of humor.

n.
A young person who has undergone puberty but who has not reached full maturity; a teenager.

(and yes, I know that word is banned here)

common mistake. a lot of people associate age with cp.
Actually it's legal to show nude models under 18 as long as it is in compliance with 2256. I will admit when it comes to nudity it is a fine line because one person can interpret it as erotic and another artistic. Non-nudes are generally no prob unless it is considered erotic in nature (see 2256). The banned L word you refer to is only banned on LL, some billers, and some search engines. Where the law really gets tricky or debatable is on simulated cp, that is models over 18 dressed up or posed to look like minors engaged in porn. Here even the web's biggest sites and distributors could one day get in trouble should congress ever decide what to do about that.

All my teen material is purchased from web legal and licensed to me. Any one who doubts that is welcomed to a free pass to any site. personally i actually agree with most opinion surrounding the teen market. I just recently had twins and it has really made me rethink everything. Unfortunately I have to pay our bills. We had 1 boy and 1 girl, and it kills me to think about any one thinking about my daughter in the ways my teen sites are portrayed! If I could fill the $ gap with another market I would do it in a heart beat!!! The teen stuff is actually the only thing i am not happy with.

So don't make the mistake of judging some one you do not know.

Jimbo, in my mind, you have proven yourself to be a total lowlife scumbag above and beyond.

I wrote parts of my rules for my link site just for dipshits like you:

Come to canada. Your material is 100% illegal. if I was you, I wouldn't be planning to cross the border any time soon...

Please, go away. Link sites can list whatever they want, and except for a few serious scumbags, you won't get your crap listed.

I love the page you listed before... "hot yung girls - skoolgirl "... so scared that someone will be on to you that you can't even bring yourself to use the real words on your site. Come on, admit it. Your a scumbag, wanna be rapist and pedo.

Please. GO AWAY.

Alex

Jimbo, you are correct. There is a NARROW situation where you can have models in compliance with 2256. HOWEVER... you cannot mix and match, You cannot have a 2256 compliant image next to an image of someone fucking. The images themselves are not important as much as presentation is. Your intent, under the law, is as important as any single image.

You cannot have a nude 15 year old on a website called "schoolgirls fucking". The intent is against 2256.

If I was you, I would be getting lawyer really quick - you have revealed yourself in public, and the phone calls and emails have already started. Your done.

You might also want to check this out:

The U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Texas, Jane Boyle, announced the unsealing of a three-count federal indictment against a former Dallas Police Officer Garry Layne Ragsdale, 34, and his wife, Tamara Michelle Ragsdale, 32, residents of Fort Worth, Texas.

The indictment, returned in late March, charges each defendant with one count of conspiracy to mail obscene material, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371, two counts of mailing obscene material and aiding and abetting, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1461 and 2.

The indictment charges that from April 1998 to July 1998, the Ragsdales conspired together, and with others, to sell and distribute obscene videotapes depicting rape scenes through the Internet and the United States mail. The indictment alleges that the Ragsdales owned, managed and maintained a Web site called "geschlecht.com." The web page was named "The Rape Video Store," where the Ragsdales offered obscene videotapes depicting rape scenes, which they categorized on the Web site as the "Real Rape Video Series" and the "Brutally Raped Video Series."

The Ragsdales posted graphically obscene descriptions of the videotapes on their Web site. They duplicated and mailed the tapes from their home after customers paid for the videos with a credit card. Visa, MasterCard, DiscoverCard, are you listening? Corporations Respond to CWA and AT&T Getting the Porn Ring Out of Its Collar (with Visa update).

If convicted on all counts, however, the Ragsdales each face up to 20 years imprisonment and a $750,000 fine. A trial is set for July 14, 2003, before Sidney A. Fitzwater, U.S. District Court Judge.

You better start deleting your hard drive and pulling your sites down now. The phone calls will be made.

Alex

So Jimbo where do you get most of your traffic from. Who do you trade with?

Jimbo, how come if you have 2257 documents for everything, and it is all legal, then why are the "rapists" all have their faces pixelated or black barred?

http-//www.passed-out.com/drunk.html

scum.

Alex

I just can't take it haha.
Why are you folks feeding into this.He wanted to push buttons and he has.
He's scum yeah he is but do ya know how much he'll get outta going to a board like this and starting a dumbass thread.
He said he never relied on LL for traffic so why feed his ego just so he can say he went to GG and Jims and really stirred up some shit on the off chance of getting boardwatch or some poor unknowing webmaster to see his program.
I say spend your energies elsewhere.Not diggin up his links and lookin at his crap

Just me 2 cents thats worth -10 cents

Well back to my favorite show a great ad for birthcontrol Nanny 911 hahaha

you like that? that was my own touch. Actually, they requested it.

yeah, they request it so they can't be easily traced, so they don't have to hide in public.

Jimbo, two words for ya, and they ain't merry christmas. (hint, one of the is off).

Alex

Those are some wonderful domains you have when a WhoIs is done on Passed-out.com.

Coed-porno.com
Forbiddenangels.com
Fuks.us
Heather-friends.com
Hot4teens.net
Lolitaland.net
Myloli.net
Shemalecandy.com
Violated.ws
Xxxsleeper.com
Babeolicious.com

Registrant:
__ James Kiricov
__ PO BOX 144
__ HAMLIN, New York 14464-0144
__ United States
__
__ Registered through: Register Cheaper .com
__ Domain Name: PASSED-OUT.COM
__ Created on: 24-Dec-01
__ Expires on: 24-Dec-05
__ Last Updated on: 25-Oct-04
__
__ Administrative Contact:
__ Kiricov, James enforcer@frontiernet.net
__ PO BOX 144
__ HAMLIN, New York 14464-0144
__ United States
__ 716-964-5694
__ Technical Contact:
__ , customerservice@networksolutions.com
__ Network Solutions, LLC.
__ 13200 Woodland Park Drive
__ Herndon, Virginia 20171-3025
__ United States
__ 1-888-642-9675 Fax -- 571-434-4620
__
__ Domain servers in listed order:
__ NS1.ACCELERATEDWEB.NET
__ NS2.ACCELERATEDWEB.NET


Or did you not know that this is public record that anyone can look up on you?

Hey James, you might want to check out this website too:

http://www.monroecountysheriff.info/

I suspect a good catholic Sherrif with a name like Patrick M. O’Flynn would find your line of "business" most interesting.

Thankfully, they do have an email address :-)

Think! You could be the most well known man in Monroe Country soon!

Alex

you know, all of you can take a f**king walk, I've done nothing wrong and you continue to attack me and post personal information about me. So what it can be obtained from whois, that still gives you know right to post all this.

GG i request you remove this thread as it has become a personal attack on me!

I thought this was a better place.

You folks are a trip. Don't worry I'm finished with this place, it's not very friendly at all.

[quote]Originally posted by Cleo
[b]Those are some wonderful domains you have when a WhoIs is done on Passed-out.com.

so what?? Terry?

T.T.Z. Enterprises, Inc.
2517 NE 21 Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33305
US
954-561-4809


Domain Name: CLEOS-PORN-LINKS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Zamore, Terri cleo@creatureofthenightdesigns.com
2517 NE 21 Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33305
US
954-561-4809


Technical Contact:
Zamore, Terri cleo@creatureofthenightdesigns.com
2517 NE 21 Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33305
US
954-561-4809


Record last updated 10-08-2002 03:01:13 PM
Record expires on 12-03-2005
Record created on 12-03-2000

Domain servers in listed order:
COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET 208.62.162.2
NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET 216.77.84.8
NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET 208.62.162.3


hows it feel?

Really I would think you webmasters had better things to do with your time!

eek. I'm not a link list owner and I'm real new to the board so I probibly have no business even commenting in this thread but that picture with the gun to her head made me want to barf. You said you did some real hard thinking when your twins were born regarding teen stuff but rape is ok? I don't get that.

I was under the assumption that this kind of stuff could quickly land you on the 11pm news and in jail. I'm shocked to hear its legal and don't really understand the loophole.

I will reply to your post because I can see you mean no harm and are sincere in your post.

My site really isn't about rape per say, rape LL won't link me because it's too calm. I only recently added stuff like the gun pic. I can undertand a woman's perspective on this, but this iste originated as simply a site about wives and girlfriends asleep, it slowly took on it's own shape from member requests. I even have females doing past out females, and females doing passed out males. It's a fantasy fetish that some find erotic, others find distasteful. It's a niche I sort of stumbled on and for years I resisted the full fledge rape style pics but got offered some sets at good prices and decided to use. Nobody was linking me any way so what the hey. Actually the husband and wife that did that set and some others said they really had fun doing it. But I can certainly understand how a woman can find it offensive, hell it seems we have a lot of men here that do as well, yet I can tell you the conversion on this is very high. How I justify it to myself is I put it there for those who like it, there are enough of them that like it to keep it going for all these years. It's really getting harder for me to justify the teen stuff even though it is all book legal. If I had it my way, I would drop the teen stuff and milk the passed out and amateur and shemale stuff I have. The reason I feel better about the passed out stuff is I KNOW who made the pics, I know the models, I know nobody got hurt. I don't believe I am pandering to would be rapists. The teen stuff I have a lot of problems with. First of all it's not my material, I bought it from distributors, I'm not so sure who I am pandering to and how much harm it causes, not just my stuff be most teen sites, we all try to push the envelope and stay legal. And finally, when I look in to my babies eyes i feel just terrible about the teen s**t we push. It just bothers me more. See I know my passed out site is safe, I'm really not so sure about the teen stuff despite being legal, follow me?


Kindest Regards!

thats nice but its not the husband and wife team making the image that bothers me its the freaks who are looking at it. Even passed out or drunk is rape no matter how you look at it.. it just is.

For all you know the freaks who are your members may someday actually rape someone if they haven't already and that money you are making in my opinion is tainted by that. I have little limits with regards to anything porn but if it was a choice between living under a bridge or feeding rapists spank material I'd much rather place my kids in fostercare and live under the bridge. Thats just me though. I'm thrilled the men on this board find it just as disturbing as the women do.. says much about their character.

Fair enough! But if you ever met me you would never believe I run adult sites, I'm a gentleman and a nice person. But I've been involved in sales for so long I just natrually go for where the money is. it's not personal for me at all. If the money was at naked over weight grand mothers guess what kind of site I'd have? I like the passed out stuff because it's been my longest running site along with my shemale stuff, which btw, I had my first shemale site way back in 1994! There were only 2 other shemale sites then. The teen stuff pays more bills but I really hate it these days. I tried other stuff, babolicious, which was super models, the stuff I actually like, but I couldn't make a dime off it!

Regards!

Jimbo, it's Terri with an "i"...

Passed out, drunk, bound, gun point, whatever... it's all non consentual sex. You can't hide behind the 2257 documents, because there is no proof that the model wasn't also forced to sign those documents.

Therefore, you fall through into that nasty space where the documents cannot be 100% certified as good. So your in trouble!

Alex

well I guess you ended my 10 year run on the passed out stuff, good job officer friendly, only one problem, I'm NOT breaking any laws! You think nobody has ever complained about my sites before? The worse that has ever happened to me is may be I loose a server and have to find a new one. 10 years Alex, you folks have not uncovered any thing new or illegal here. Sorry to disppoint you.

Then leave already. You can stop replying like you said you would and this thread will go the way of the do-do. But if you insist on attempting to defend your indefensble content, this could go on forever. You've nothing to gain here. You've managed to put yourself on everyone's radar and have probably been reported to all of the major search engines (your only source of traffic) and perhaps the authorities. If you want this discussion to go away, then you must go away.

I will be going to bed soon and that will be the end of it. Your right though, there is no point in replying as it keeps the thread going,. btw, search engines only give me about 10% of my traffic. I get most of my traffic from sending bulk unsolicited emails i send out from addresses I scrape up from boards like this ; )

only kidding...

you know after reading this post and looking at some of the pics on the site posted.. i have come to realize....

i have lead a very "sheltered" life.

|rasta|

Jimbo, 10 years and you still can't get traffic?

Wow.

I checked your sites, I couldn't find the address for the custodian of records. Care to enlighten me?

Alex

Oh yeah, Jimbo, in case you ain't up to date (and apparently you are not):

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txn/PressR...an_ind_pr.html

I personally made sure that Gartman got nailed (and I have the press clippings from various texas newspapers to prove it).

Welcome to being on my radar. Your next.

Alex

ahh come on alex, you know 2257 records are flawed remember.
and who said I don't get any traffic? now you are reading between the lines too? Great detective work. No I don't care to enlighten you. cya

So now you also admit to not having valid documents or a valid custodian of records?

Man, you are a dumbfuck.

Alex

This says an awful lot about your character. The vast majority of people I've met in this industry are respectable, lovely people who feel no need to apologize for what they do. Evidently you feel some shame about your chosen profession of ten years. Perhaps if you didn't pander to the lowest common denominator, you wouldn't have these issues.

I'm not the amoral moron running rape, CP, and incest sites so unlike you I have nothing to hide.

I really do hope that you are banned and removed from society. You are worse then scum and have no place in this business or as a functioning member of society. You are promoting violence to woman and harm to those too young to protect themselves. You are nothing but predator seeking self gratification and financial gain by harming others.

Personally, I always liked the sites PK lists

there were even times where I wished my submits were more like hers


This guy is full of shit

Would owning the .com version of that domain make the person pretty much a CP scumbag too Greenguy?

l olitaland.com for those that can't read through the censorship.

I would say yes, no wait...no :)
I know you weren't talking to me opti and to tell you the truth, I have never had anything against the word ******. I have nothing against any words as a matter of fact.

And, if Jimbo (Change your name please Jimbo) only had that domain, I would have had no problem with him. But, as you can see, he is much more than the owner of a "Bad Word" domain.

Could I get myself out from under the bus if I said that I posted "sites like..." and not "domains like..."?? :D

In the past, I've owned a couple domains that I wish I never bought, but I never put up questionable material.

whois shows ownership change in April 2003 & wayback shows a change to the FPA after that, so it might have been just bought because it had traffic?

I'm just guessing - I'll let him post if he so chooses.

I actually dont care about that site myself either Jim. I prefer to judge my own work and let others choose what they think is ok too :)

It would take a webmaster doing a lot worse than what that site has been used for (most of the time) for me to write them off as a bad human being.

I don't like Jimbo's work at all... in fact I hate it a lot... but I give him kudos for publicly defending what he believes.. and standing behind what he does!

Sorry about the bus GG.. was never my intention and the driver has been asked to pull over quietly for a week or two and here he is in a thread scolding someone about the same shit he does as per normal. I figured you mentioned that domain as you really wanted someone to bring this up anyway ;-)) Couldn't have just been co-incidence!!

We all know he won't post about this as he has no balls.. no balls at all... But it's for the best anyway as he can't explain that site I'm afraid... too many people have seen it over too many years. :( And quite frankly, I doubt you would want him to open that can of worms in public, I sure don't. It would be sweeeet to see him explain why he is too spineless to stand behind what he does like this Jimbo "Scumbag" does though! :D

They both make me sick but I know without hesitation which person I would prefer to share my dinner table with..

I am quite revolted by Jimbos sites... and surprised that he is surprised that he can't get listed at link lists... It is sites like these that give legitimate adult webmasters who are targetting legitimate porn surfers, a bad name.

As far as the term l.olita, I agree with Jim, it is a legitimate word when used in the correct context, just as young, girl and boy are legitimate words. But when they are used in domain names and associated with porn, regardless what is on the domain, the owner of the domain must be using it to target a certain type of surfer. Why else would the owner of a domain go to the trouble of registering and renewing it.

Jimbo needs to crawl back into the hole that he came from, and anyone else associated with similar domains need to take a good hard look themselves and/or their associates.

Try being sued more than once because some teenager decided to go to school with a gun and murder several people and some attorney decides to get his name in the news by using the fact that the kid(s) viewed internet porn and you happen to have a site found in the cache on the computer he(they) had access to....

Have the FBI show up at your door because your name is on a list of candidates for home invasions and murder because they feel you link inappropriate material and then have the FBI look in detail at exactly what you link to and how questionable any of it might be.....

then see what you will and will not list.

Also.. unwritten in the rules, but while I'm on my soapbox.. ..

I don't like the word C*nt.... use it in a submission (not saying anyone here has) and I won't list the site... my perogative...

I also don't like anything that plays at the idea of female (or male for that matter) rape or torture, etc. I don't like it.. I won't list it... my perogative...

So someone visits my site and they're looking for things I don't list... they'll go elsewhere and find it. It's likely that person won't click on banners for sites I'm promoting, let alone purchase a membership to something.

on and GG...hehe..who says I don't post here?