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swedguy 2005-03-08 05:19 PM

I just checked 2 of them (A Teen Topanga and Trixy Teeen) and I would probably not list either.

1. Too many outgoing links (your own links that are included in the recip table)
2. Not clearly marked gallery links. I didn't find them until I clicked around on the links that I though it might be.
3. 28 recips is a TAD much

Thumbler 2005-03-08 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
Interesting looking stats.

You've lost me

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
You've lost me

I wouldn't have if you were promoting them and you had interesting looking stats too.

Greenguy 2005-03-08 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
I PM you one because I don't really like to post my stuff in public, but what the hell, I don't care....

I think I was replying to you PM when you posted this :)



swedguy - that's what I told him too, plus a little more :D

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
I just checked 2 of them (A Teen Topanga and Trixy Teeen) and I would probably not list either.

1. Too many outgoing links (your own links that are included in the recip table)
2. Not clearly marked gallery links. I didn't find them until I clicked around on the links that I though it might be.
3. 28 recips is a TAD much

Well then they're shit.

At least someone could tell me, I'd pull their recip and go on about submitting to sites that didn't think the same way.

That's all I ask.

If they're too shitty to list they're too shitty to have your link on, right?

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy
swedguy - that's what I told him too, plus a little more :D

Can I post the problems/responses from the PM here?

Greenguy 2005-03-08 05:43 PM

You're the one that took it to PM, so post away :)

Hell, you can even post the part where I said piss was good for the board :D

Thumbler 2005-03-08 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
I wouldn't have if you were promoting them and you had interesting looking stats too.

My stats are fine thanks.

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:46 PM

Well, I wanted to ask first.
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Originally Posted by GG
MrMaryLou reviewed this one but I think I can tell at least a few of the reasons we declined it:

1 - 28 recips might be a tad bit too many - plus having that many make them look rather small. I tend to go with 12-15 per site when I build

2 - the last row in the recip table, we consider those towards the "3 banners/ads" since they are not trades with Link Lists

3 - just form a design POV, I'd move the HPA above the recips :)

4 - what's with the thumbs on the bottom that are not linked? (that sets off bells with us because we tend to think that people will put links on them after we list the site)

5 - it did take me a bit to find the gallery links, mostly because one was up in the corner & the other is in the middle of the page with not text other than the link.

6 - your galleries have a serious lack of nudity

Thanks :)

Well, I don't really know how to build freesites, these are the first ones. Thanks for looking.

Let me explain my reasoning. No reason I can't change things.

1) I thought that's what everyone wanted, to be on the page with everyone else.

2) Ok. I can take them off. I just wanted to feed them SE hits.

3) I thought everyone wanted their links first. I thought they all wanted to be before the enter (or sponsor) link. I thought they would like to have first shot at the surfer before the ad.

4) They have alt tags. Also, look at the image name (properties) of them. That's all. I can remove them.

5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.

6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business :) Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic .

swedguy 2005-03-08 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
Well then they're shit.

At least someone could tell me, I'd pull their recip and go on about submitting to sites that didn't think the same way.

That's all I ask.

If they're too shitty to list they're too shitty to have your link on, right?

They're not shit, they just don't follow most link lists rules.


I don't say that this is the case for you, but I'm just going to say how I work :)

If my site got accepted at 90-95% of the LL's, I don't worry about the 5-10% that it didn't get listed at. It was most likely that they had enough of those kind of sites, overused content etc.

If only 50% accepted it, then I have done something seriously wrong. I would post the site on this board and get tips from other what the error might be or ask a friend that also does free sites, just to get a second opinion. Or just read couple of LL's rules and then try to look at my site again and see what I might have done wrong. Ask others never hurt :)

I don't expect anyone else to tell me what I've done wrong. If I posted to the link lists and they didn't list me, then I probably broke one of their rules and I need to go back and look what I can do better for my next site. But it sure is appreciated when someone tells me what's wrong, it saves me time. But that means I took time away from them, even tough I was the one that made the error.

Greenguy 2005-03-08 05:49 PM

I was gonna reply until you spammed |couch|

Thumbler 2005-03-08 05:53 PM

This kind of crap will get you banned - how the fuck did I end up here (which at the time was an AFF page) when I clicked on one of the links?

swedguy 2005-03-08 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.

6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business :) Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic

You have to see it from the link list owners point of view too. He/she is the one that has the traffic.

5,6. If the surfer (that came from the link list) can't find the content, he will not be a happy camper. Imagine him running into 20 sites like that at the same LL, do you think he will came back to that LL? Nope, he will go to another place where he can actually find sites with pics.
You can still sell and yet provide content for the surfer/LL. Don't hide anything or do any tricks.

CybrFire 2005-03-08 05:56 PM

I gotta agree with Swedguy...the gallery links were a little hard to find and too many outgoing links. BUT, if you could redo the layout so joe surfer could look at it once and locate the gallery links, then it wouldn't be a problem. All the links you provided pretty much looked the same...if you've got alot of differant templates to use, then you can add me in to your list of places to submit to. I'm not a GG or Penisbot traffic-wise (working on it...maybe someday soon), but I'll still list you.

As per the recip table, if you could cut it down to 12-15, then not a problem. See my sig below for both of my sites to submit to. And I do send out accept/reject emails and even take the time to point out problems etc., with submits.

|peace|

Greenguy 2005-03-08 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
Well, I wanted to ask first.

Thanks :)

Well, I don't really know how to build freesites, these are the first ones. Thanks for looking.

That's part of the reason we are here - we can help you before AND after you submit, especially before for those that are new to Free Sites :)

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Let me explain my reasoning. No reason I can't change things.

1) I thought that's what everyone wanted, to be on the page with everyone else.
I think my rules say that I'd like to see at least 5 other Link Lists. 12-15 is usually fine, 28 is too many IMHO & just dilutes them. Remember, it's a traffic trade :D

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2) Ok. I can take them off. I just wanted to feed them SE hits.
Make a hub, link to it in with the recips, list the Free Site on the hub, filter traffic back & forth :)

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3) I thought everyone wanted their links first. I thought they all wanted to be before the enter (or sponsor) link. I thought they would like to have first shot at the surfer before the ad.
I'm happy as long as the link is above the "enter" link so people can see it.

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4) They have alt tags. Also, look at the image name (properties) of them. That's all. I can remove them.
Silly SE trickery :D

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5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.
But you have to remember that we as Link List owners want our surfers to be happy & able to find things & whatnot.

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6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business :) Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic So sign up here now
Spammer :D

Do these reasons I gave you make at least a little bit of sense?

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
This kind of crap will get you banned - how the fuck did I end up here (which at the time was an AFF page) when I clicked on one of the links?

No you didn't. You tried to browse by the address bar, and got a 404 didn't you?

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy
I was gonna reply until you spammed |couch|

It's gone. I wasn't spamming, I was adding the punch line to my stats. :)

.

Greenguy 2005-03-08 05:58 PM

heheheheheheheeheh

Mateusz 2005-03-08 05:58 PM

Don't think I'm too picky - I just advice you what you shall do to get listed EVERYWHERE (however my rules are much more tolerant)
Reduce pics size under 100k - preferably below 50k
Don't make gallery links smallest on page
Dont overdo with outgoing links (3 max is a standard today)

I've tried 24 recip sites and they got listed at the beggining - past time I got troubles with getting listed by some sites but (I'm not SE guru but) I didn't notice any SE advantages in making only 1 doorway page

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy
Do these reasons I gave you make at least a little bit of sense?

Yes. I really thought it was a kick ass site(s) but I see they need some work.

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
No you didn't. You tried to browse by the address bar, and got a 404 didn't you?

Wrong. It's a link on your site that's fucked up, Mr Clever Dick. Or is it Dick Clever? :D
Ask me nicely and I'll tell you what it is :D

Mateusz 2005-03-08 06:04 PM

Yep, it was one site (dont count banner change as new template) - there are some freaks on the Board who ban for templates. LOL

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
Wrong. It's a link on your site that's fucked up, Mr Clever Dick. Or is it Dick Clever? :D
Ask me nicely and I'll tell you what it is :D

No.

I'll find it myself. Stop looking at my porn unless you're going to buy something.

.

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mateusz
Yep, it was one site (dont count banner change as new template) - there are some freaks on the Board who ban for templates. LOL

Sure they do, and I don't blame them, but 6 sites, first and only sites could hardly be "templating". Maybe it could.

I just haven't had time to build more front ends. I have other custom galleries also.

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
No.

I'll find it myself. Stop looking at my porn unless you're going to buy something.
.

LMAO. I've seen more porn in a Victoria's Secret catalogue.

Anyway, what's up - can't you afford the bandwidth? :D

MadMax 2005-03-08 06:12 PM

Hey AST, I'd be happy to have your submits. I always send decline emails with explanations in them :)

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:12 PM

Let me ask this while we're all here.

Are LL owners going to make me run their ugly asses odd sized flashing buttons to get a listing, or are they generally going to accept the more valuable and beautiful text links?

.

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:15 PM

Most people will take text recips - but not 28 of them :(

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
LMAO. I've seen more porn in a Victoria's Secret catalogue.

Anyway, what's up - can't you afford the bandwidth? :D

What? I don't get you. If you had any idea how much BW I burn you'd shit your pants :)

Here. When we had all the sites on CSW, I was the top affiliate. On my own bandwidth, not the hosted galleries. |cool|

Lizzie 2005-03-08 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
LMAO. I've seen more porn in a Victoria's Secret catalogue.

Anyway, what's up - can't you afford the bandwidth? :D

ooooh, a big meanine on chat boards...your mom must be so proud |pokefun|

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
Most people will take text recips - but not 28 of them :(

Ok, so I can just split it in half or 3rds and make extra pages.

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:18 PM

This is the HTML you need to change BTW

a href="2/chloe_18_site.shtml"
font face="Arial" color="#6B009A">Chloe-18 Posing Doggy and Showing her Small
Teen Tits

Obviously the '2' needs removing

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:19 PM

CybrFire and MadMax, thank you. I'll get you added in. :)

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
What? I don't get you. If you had any idea how much BW I burn you'd shit your pants :)

Here. When we had all the sites on CSW, I was the top affiliate. On my own bandwidth, not the hosted galleries. |cool|

For fuck's sake - IT WAS A JOKE

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
This is the HTML you need to change BTW

a href="2/chloe_18_site.shtml"
font face="Arial" color="#6B009A">Chloe-18 Posing Doggy and Showing her Small
Teen Tits

Obviously the '2' needs removing

Thank you :D

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie
ooooh, a big meanine on chat boards...your mom must be so proud |pokefun|

She probably would be if she wasn't dead

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
Thank you :D

You're welcome |thumb

Adult Traffic 2005-03-08 06:23 PM

The link should be:

http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/small...een_tits.shtml

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic
Ok, so I can just split it in half or 3rds and make extra pages.

Basically yes , but there are some LL owners who will only take an 'index' page so you need to be a bit careful. A lot of people get round it by doing an 'index.html' page, and a 'warning.html' page and an 'enter.html' page and so on.

Thumbler 2005-03-08 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

That's more like it |thumb


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