usually i go downstairs and make myself a cup of coffee while i wait for a thread to load. |sad|

then again...in very few cases it loads ok. :)

We should have this problem fixed today - we know the cause, just have to fix it :)

Unfortunately, it loads extremely slow.

It seems there were a few factors to slow loading. One is fixed and one is being fixed.

The way phpads was loading banners was not the best way. And, the way all images on all pages were loading was not setup the best way.

I spent over 12 hours yesteday fixing the images on all pages recently done.

Believe this...our main goal, as well as national net's is to get this site loading faster than any out there. We have found the phpads problem and we are working on it now.

Whatever you're doing keep it up. The board is creping up faster and faster for me :)

We should have everything in order by end of day or sooner.

I think its Dr Bizzaro's fault

On some of the pages I used the full url to the image instead of the relative url to the image.

Never heard of that making a difference in load time, either way the server still needs to look up the url of the images. On most of the pages except the root ones I did use the full url so that they would be potable when doing future updates., but mostly I did it this way because I didn't have access to the server and wanted to be sure that there where no broken images. This is new to me, but in this business you are always learning something new.

12 hours??? Damn Jim don't you use search and replace? That would have taken less then 5 minutes per directory using search and replace.

What did you change on PhpAdsNew? I use it as well and anything that makes it serve banners faster is nice to know.

I couldn't get the board to load most of the day, now it loads slower than ever for me. |sad|

I think you guys should consider a new host or a new script or something

This has to be affecting the money your making

Same here since I got home. :(

The board is hanging on loading the top buttons and just sits there with 2 or 3 buttons loaded. If I hit reload then sometimes it will finish loading for me.

Still slow from down here...

I too had the "header" errors this am.. php/sql errors.

DD

For those of you that think things are slow, try this page:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html

I preview of things to come :D

The head tech guy at Nat Net is calling me around 10-10:30 tonight & we will have this figured out soon :)

Woo hoo I like the sound of that.

That page loads MUCH faster for me! It shows me the text pretty much immediately, & it loads the graphics as I watch. It doesn't hang and make me wait until everything is loaded before showing me anything.|bananna|

errors
 

I am getting php script errors at the top of some of the pages

Here's an update - part of the php on the board does not like part of the php in the rotator - we are currently using a java option for the banners, which is causing the board to hang or load slowly. As you can see from the news page, the php versions of the ads load much faster :)

So, Nat Net will have one of their php guys working on this from the time he punches his timecard in the morning (I assume they will let him have a cup of coffee 1st) & hopefully we can find a solution to the problem (which, BTW, seems to be a very common problem with vBulletin)

I have confidence that the Nat Net guys will solve this & everyone will dance like banannas!!! |bananna|

Basically get rid of the stuff between the script tags and use the a href in the no script tag.

Page 80 of the user guide. Remote invocation via javascript will slow down your page load.

It looks like you are using Remote invocation via javascript which you really only need if you are going to display rich media ads (flash).

Delete this stuff for each banner:



Use this from the tag


Which is what you are doing on the news page.

Snowone - it's not that simple - LOL - the code on the source of the news page is what you get after php has done it's little thing - the hard coding that you get from the 2nd part of the java script code is just a back up & doesn't rotate properly :(

today it loads (for me) really fast for the first time :)

probably the reason why this seems to become my "yes i'm a board whore"-day here at gg&j |bananna|

The board loads at an acceptable speed for me this morning, as is evident from the number of replies I posted |cheers| |ggandj

It has been very fast for me this morning, but just now when I hit reply in this thread the board got hung loading the last two top buttons and I had to hit refresh to get the board to finish loading.

it's horrible for me.. i'm still waiting for 96 items to open..but at least giving me the base page..

nice sic ye got there mr mary lou ! |afro|

much better
 

Yes cleaner and quicker

speed of this board sux big time and thats for me the main reason not to post here anymore and only read it when i got a shitload of time to load up some threads. Only the loading of the reply box of this thread takes more then a minute for me.

And dont start bout my connection. im on a 1.5 mbit cable connection and all the rest of the boards are lightening fast here.

hope you can fix the probs

cheers,

boneless

boneless - we know what the problem is & the tech guys at Nat Net are working on fixing it (see my post(s) above)

It's been slightly slower the last few days (specially those days the Australian Telstra ADSL was playing up - so nothing to do with you!) - but in general going from thread to thread no problem for me!
The initial first load of the day seems to be rather slow, though! As if the board software needs lots of time to set cookie and work out which threads to marks as un-read. And if I come back later (like 2-3 hours later) I find the same settings even though I've read several post beforehand - now that's a glitch!


edit: there I posted that it loads fine, and then it took ages to refresh the page... Read two threads on AWW in the time.

Yeah, still doing the same here...

I don't know if this will help, but hubby wanted me to mention it. We just recently installed the adsnew program on our own posting board, and he used iframes for the banners. It doesn't slow our board down at all. I don't know if that will help for your particular situation (we use phpbb) but hubby said I should mention it, just in case.

Actually, we think we have it fixed :D

I don't see if if I use http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/ but I do see it if I use http://greenguysboard.com/board/ (time for me to clean my cache - LOL)

I'm still clocking a massive 0.6kb/ps loading the board :)

This looks like it might be it. :)

The board no longer waits for the banner rotator to finish before the rest of the page loads. I see the alt tags on the banners as all of the page loads at once and then it loads the images after the page is completely drawn, just like their wasn't a banner rotator at all.

Well if this doesn't work I say we start giving the hamster steroid injections. :D

Zoom Zoom
 

Hey, this is Stephen From NatNet here, I tweaked some code [insert nerdy PHP jargon here] in vBulletin so things should be much much faster now (the remote invocation for the ads was the culprit).

Thanks for your patience and have a nice day! And here's a dancing banana:


|bananna|

I do like the way it is loading now :)
Nice Job...

It is incredibly faster!!!

I may have to install seat belts on my office chair it is so fast. :D

So how many webmasters does it take to build a fast board. |jester|

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Faster? its even slower then last night mate....while it loaded i finished looking at stats plus sorting out mail. |waves|

boneless
Since it seems to be only you not noticing the new speed, I would think it may be on your end.

Granted, I have a very fast connection but, I can't count to 3 before a page loads.

well since my last post some improvement but everything else loads fine overhere. All my tgps , all my admin, mail flies like a rocket and every single board except this one comes in flying here.

im not bashing you guys or anything. I like this board very much and enjoy reading it. You just made a topic asking bout the loading speed of the pages and i posted my experience. Thats all.

cheers,

boneless

ps i think my 1.5 mbit connection should be enough to get the board loading fast.

Boneless would you mind doing a traceroute and posting the results?

I'm thinking that maybe it is a routing issue. Also what browser/OS are you using?

Using win XP pro with ie6.0

traceroute results:

1 213.132.192.1 (213.132.192.1) 0.466 ms 0.383 ms 0.419 ms
2 bgp4-8000-nlhosting.io.nl (81.17.32.253) 0.556 ms 0.556 ms 0.509 ms
3 212.72.44.21 (212.72.44.21) 0.814 ms 0.814 ms 0.694 ms
4 gige6-1.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.85) 0.764 ms 0.826 ms 0.783 ms
5 GBLX-Level3.level3.net (213.244.165.238) 0.812 ms 0.836 ms 1.058 ms
6 pos10-0-2488M.cr1.AMS2.gblx.net (67.17.65.229) 0.996 ms 1.197 ms so4-0-0-2488M.cr2.AMS2.gblx.net (67.17.65.241) 0.972 ms
7 pos1-0-2488M.cr1.ATL1.gblx.net (67.17.70.13) 100.028 ms 99.978 ms 99.934 ms
8 so0-0-0-2488M.ar4.ATL1.gblx.net (67.17.68.230) 101.666 ms 99.961 ms 104.420 ms
9 National-Data-CentersAtlanta.ge-4-0-0.br1.ATL1.gblx.net (64.214.70.122) 117.277 ms 117.030 ms 117.070 ms
10 tr2.atl1-1-8.national-net.com (66.115.128.46) 117.132 ms 117.027 ms 117.041 ms
11 greenguysboard.com (66.115.135.175) 114.203 ms 114.746 ms 114.366 ms

cheers,

boneless