All AC links have been removed from Mark's. It is no longer linked to the other categories, and Added Anime as a category.

My personal AC sites are now a 404 1/2 page ad with No Consoles.

|waves|
LOL Mark, I second your sentiments exactly, but I do wish you would say what you really feel instead of being so timid and beating around the bush |jester|

I've already removed all AC sites from my link list so no one has to worry about redirecting their sites. :)


Come on dareutwo, no need to hold back how you really feel. :D

I Cant beleive What Some People Have Sayed on this Board Supporting GG of a business Decision. This Is One of the Sickest Things ive Seen In the Business. If Greenguy Wanted to get my Respect and the Respect of others He Would have Told AC to Go Fuck Themselves and Boycotted AdultCheck. Also Would Have Got Everyone else to do the Same.
I Encourage everyone to Blast AC and Not List Any Sites Promoting AC.
I fortunately Have only made one AVS site which Made as much as $1000. per half a month , but never did much with it and it has gone down to about $50. a Month. which i will not be getting any more check as it was a site under Adult Check.
GreenGuy >>> You Act Like you Are For the Webmasters and Such yet you do something like this ... whether AC was gonna go ahead without you or not is not the point , basically you are saying you dont care about any of the webmasters only what money you make. What about the people who only had AC sites ... im sure there are Lots! they now have nothing ... nothing to support themselves or their families, and you can Seriously look in the mirror. One Person Can Make A Difference. Everyone Ban AdultCheck Stuff till Theres Nothing Left ...

Ok I admit, I am the slow person on the board...
A. I thought we were all in this as a BUSINESS. Businesses need profits to keep their doors open and their bills paid.
B. I dont remember Greenguy ever saying that he got into this biz for the respect it would gain him, but rather for the profit potential and what he could do with his own business.
C. Anyone who had all their eggs in one basket with AC weren't very smart biz people anyway, as the old saying goes "NEVER put all your eggs in one basket". So GG isn't supposed to be able to look himself in the mirror cause there were people who made poor biz decisions? Damn the burder he must bear with the amt of people in this biz who don't make it!

yea, lets blame this on greenie, ofcourse its his fault, wonder why its always nutheads with 1 post who post things like this......
|crazy|

Yes, ohporn, let me see if I get this...

If GreenGuy (and the rest of the elite Tier One-ers) had told AC to go bugger themselves, AC would not have made the decisions it made and everything would be as it was before?

AFAIK, it was the Visa assholes who created this situation and AC had little choice but to come up with something else to do or fold.

My beef with AC is the crappy way they implemented their changes, with little (actually zero) warning to the webmasters whose sites were being removed. |pissed| But I don't see how GreenGuy's choice of options would change that situation one bit.

Did AC act in bad faith regarding their lower-tier webmasters/content providers? You bet they did. And I'm quite sure GreenGuy is savvy enough to have noted that and will be watching his back carefully when dealing with the company. But making his own business take a dive |flush| would not have aided any of the rest of us, would it? I don't see how.

Hey now that I think about it, I wonder if we can claim GG as a loss on our taxes this year since he is to blame for this!

GG perhaps if you let us all claim you then you could look yourself in the mirror again |jester|

ohporn -
Have you ever met GG and the Bitch in person??? (btw Bitch - that's still really hard to say on a board fyi)
The AC issue may actually be a simple annoyance on his radar.
It's HIS Biz and HIS Money at stake.

While I completely disagree with AC's handling of this matter, that's between me and you and AC and the other AC webmasters, and until GG thumps me in the head, I won't disrespect his course of action. (of course, I'd like some answers too - but...)

He serves Great Bloody Mary's!!
(whether he remembers or not.. :) )

ohporn - you are entitled to your opinions :D

But I will comment on one thing - you say you made only one AVS site & that site brough in $1000 every 2 weeks? Are we really supposed to believe that you thought $24k a year form one site was not worth it?

Oh my arent we the big time one |jester| One avs site 24k a year |jester| Stop your killing me |jester| |goodnight

It's good to see so many support Greenie here which is better than I got on TLA's board when I announced that I was tier 1. GG do you sell traffic?

NotThatKevin - no, but I guess I buy traffic now - LOL

(sorry for the inside joke)

We are in business, we are all competing against each other, business is business.

Personally I don't think that there will be much left of AC, if anything, when the dust settles.

Seems like AC was going to fuck everyone one way other the other as Visa is fucking them. I think in the end everyone is going to end up fucked including the ones that have made a deal with AC.

Anyway it is visa fucking AC and AC fucking its webmasters. Those that made a deal with AC had nothing to do with everyone getting fucked and is just a business decision on their part.

I'm not sure that I would have wanted to climb on what to me looks like a sinking ship, but then I don't know any of the details.

A whole lot of fucking going on and no one is having any fun. :(

A whole lot of fucking going on and no one is having any fun.

Well, some lube would have been nice.

Oh but lassiter, dont you see that would have shown an act of decency towards the webmasters. Can't have that when you are in the midst of a royal fucking! |jester|

I personally don't blame any webmasters still at AC. Why would I? AC told them they could be part of this new plan and they'd get to keep all their rebills (lots of money each month) OR they could decide to not be part of this new plan and they would get Shit! Bye bye rebills!

It's a no brainer.

Let's be pissed at AC for being the asshole thieves that they are for keeping rebills we all made sales on and now Not paying us anymore for them. But there's is no reason to be pissed at any AC webmaster who are left.

AdultCheck Building |pissleft|

hey, Mikey, long tome no talk to. Sorry I did not see this earlier, but was busy around here, not much time for the boards .

Hit me up, I am usually around (as you know).

The webmasters that knew about adult check had to sign an NDA before they found out what was going on. There was no way anyone could say anything.

I wish I could remember where I saw the entire contract for them but I can't. If I can remember it, I will post it.

You should be looking to the root of the problem..... not having a go at each other.

There's an opportunity in everything if you know where to look.

I always have a problem when I get an NDA to sign. I never want to do it but curiousity always gets the better of me.

Bottom line...the webmasters that received this NDA are not to blame, Adult Check is... They are screwing the lower 90% of all webmasters with them.

I would place any blame squarely at the feet of the credit card companies..... whilst I don't agree with what AC have done.... I bet it's their only route to stay in business.

Never a truer word spoken :)

A friend of mine who is also a Gold webmaster asked me what he should do so I told him to dump all his golds members areas in one domain like this
/members/site1
/members/site2 etc etc

He signed up with Verotel and he ICQ'd me tonight (Thursday here) and said his "Pay Site" had already earned over $1,000. Good for him and like urb says there is always an opportunity.

Thanks NotThatKevin :)

Every business/industry I've ever had anything to do with has gone through set-backs and problems.

The main priority for any business is to stay in business.

URB
Have you read the entire contract. I remembered the board it was on and it appears to have been pulled. AC could have done things that would not have screwed 90% of their webmasters but they chose a different route. They want to make the top 10% webmasters happy and don't give a rat's ass about the rest.

I don't agree with what they have done, as I posted earlier.

Out on a limb here, but does anyone have a copy of their TOS?
Since I can't login anymore, I don't have one.

Some of them

http://msm.adultcheck.com/policy.html

DD

I'm so pissed at Green Guy. The weather sucks outside and if GG didn't live in Buffalo it would be warm every where. I had to wait in line at DMV and it's GG's fault. If he would do things differently then they wouldn't have lines. I'm fat and it's his fault. Money is green and should be purple but NOOOOOO he won't change his name to Purple Guy. Everything is his damn fault.


Oh, I meant to use an anonymous ID to post this |banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead||banghead|

If I had been selected for tier two, my plan for staying in business would be as follows: 1) I would keep promoting my adult check sites as usual, but I would change the links on the pages to send my traffic to the relevant tier two niche tours instead of to my signup page (which no longer works). That way, I'm still getting my rebills on my old sites and hopefully making new sales (and new rebills) promoting adult check. Keep the money coming in for as long as I can. 2) I would make duplicate front ends for my old adult check sites and submit those sites to another AVS. That way, my old sites can start making money from a new source while my money from AC is still coming in, on the same sites that AC is still paying me for. My hope would be that I could replace the AC income from another source before the AC income ran out. It's even conceivable that I could successfully maintain my tier two status, making new AC sales and rebills, AND make equivalent money from another AVS from the same sites, thus doubling my income just by going to the trouble of making duplicates of my front ends. Just a suggestion...