i'm pretty sure it was on Fox as i think i was having dinner at the table thursday and One of the people in our co-housing thinks that pearls of wisdom drip from O'Reilly's mouth..

I know it was in a segment where he was commenting on the release of the photos from the Abu Ghraib debacle.

Exactly.. which is why it stuck with me .. because HE of all people should know the value of getting the truth out ..


edit: Maybe i was smoking and not sharing cuz i did search the archives for it.. my only other show i watched out there was Bill Maher and I don't think he was on it.. but Anne Coulter was and boy what a 180 she did on her boy bush.. lmao..

So Senator McCain if you are reading this.. sorry if i confused you BUT i don't think i did.. |pimpin

He wasn't on Bill Maher and yes, Anne Coulter and a lot of supporters are turning away from Dubya right now. Not even raising terror alerts can get his supporters back.

Dead Soldiers Come Home
 

Very early on in one of our present wars (there's so many) the Pentagon issued an order which prohibited news organizations from showing the flag draped caskets of dead soldiers coming back to this country and being taken off airplanes in ceremony. These visuals apparently had a huge impact during Viet Nam.

I've never figured out if the Pentagon's order has the force of law or what or how they're able to enforce it. Never the less you've never seen a single picture like this on the evening news. All the news operations completely have caved to this and I always thought it was pretty outrageous. If any of them had a nickel's worth of spine I've thought they should have protested this by simply showing stock footage from Viet Nam to represent every dead soldier coming back to our shores. IMHO :(

DJilla - the reason this ban has the force it does is that it is on a military base - and they can prohibit anything they want on US Govt property (unfortunately)

This is something rather new - it started back in 1991 when Bush Sr got a little pissed when he was shown split screen with the caskets of the first Gulf war and one of the clips showed him laughing at something with the caskets in the other screen.
Since then they have allowed pictures when it suited them - during certain returns of soldiers after something was over. And then they put in a total ban in 2001 however someone put in a freedom of info act request and got ahold of a few hundred photos by accident - and a bunch of newspapers published them last year.
Recently in response to a lawsuit though I believe the pentagon had to agree to release the pictures - however now you just have to get some news organization that has balls to actually run them

ya know after thinking about this
I bet that sheriff or whoever arrested him has ideas of being mayor or something and figured this would be some easy and free publicity

That very well could be. Politicians are very slick & slimy these days. They could care less about outcome as long as they come out looking better than when they went in |angry|

hey tommy , check your PM's mate ;)

I don't understand what any of you are talking about :(

What is wrong with our great nation led by our trustworthy and wise leaders spreading the gospel of democracy around the globe at gun point?

Then, of course, censoring the news so that us free democratic people don't have to bother with truth and other nasty bits.

I hope all the fucking lyers burn in hell.

I don't understand what any of you are talking about :(

What is wrong with our great nation led by our trustworthy and wise leaders spreading the gospel of democracy around the globe at gun point?

Then, of course, censoring the news so that us free democratic people don't have to bother with truth and other nasty bits.

I hope all those fucking lyers burn in hell.

I'm on the wagon of believing that every person in America should have photos of their dead and dead Iraqis thrust in their faces every day as they have their morning coffee. Maybe they should actually check out the ragged bloody bodies of blown up children that they dismiss as some kind of unavoidable little hassle of war. I don't understand how people can so vehemently support something, and have no clue as to what it actually means.

I've been to SE Asia, and just being around Vietnamese people is enough to show anyone what war means. It means that 30 years later, little kids are still blowing their legs off on the landmines that the US left there, and that some decent chunk of the country's population has some sort of noticeable deformity or injury, either from direct injury or chemical warfare. I once watched a man on the street who was missing everything from the waist down who had a section of car tire around his stump-torso to protect it from dragging, scooting himself along with his hands like a long-armed ape. There is a museum in Ho Chi Minh City which has some of the most horrific photos of Napalm and other chemical effects, and even bottled deformed fetuses, it's something you don't forget seeing.

Millions of people are living with the effects of Agent Orange, but the companies involved in making it are still around and profitable, and in the case of Monsanto, are coming to control the world's food supply. (The majority of what Americans eat from grocery stores are GE foods, many of which which are created and patented by the creators of Agent Orange, without being warned that no one has *any idea* what the long-term effects of screwing with the genetics of everything are. Despite the fact that every poll ever conducted indicates that most Americans are for GE food labeling, the US government knows to not screw with a big company like Monsanto by questioning the safety of the foods they create for its citizens.)

Or, a lesser-known tragedy with chemical warfare is more recent: the effects of the dust from depleted uranium ammunition from the first gulf war. Here's a page I Googled, something everyone should have to ponder as they bitch about how we need to get cheaper gas: http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html Look at those babies, and then tell me, "Oops, shit happens, what can ya do?"

All one really has to do is look 10 years in the past, 30 years in the past, and ask, "How did it turn out last time we went to war?" But, Americans have only as much of an attention span as their TV-fried brains allow, which means that anything that hasn't happened to them personally in the last week doesn't have any bearing on anything. It's all just a movie or something.

if i'm reading this right polk just thinks fisting is obscene not porn in general right?