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KG Gary - if you as a surfer click on a link thinking it is taking you to the free galleries on a free site and you end up at a pay site of a sponsor then wouldnt you probably back out and go somewhere else to get those free pics? This is what is happening in this case.
The free sites are designed so badly that the surfers are clicking to the sponsor's site by accident - and that makes the traffic the worst kind for trying to sell - they already feel like theyve been tricked. As far as the whois addy question - the reasons we have out reviewers check them - they list your host (which quite a few are banned), they list your other domains which give an indication of whether or not you are also going after undesirable types of traffic (pedo, animal etc) and most importantly, whether you have had a blacklisting for spamming in the past. They also give us information on whether you are multi-submitting from numerous domains (which has happened countless times) and last - tell us whether its a paid host or a free/sponsor/shared host. While you may think that you have been listed well - I can tell you that for 100 sites 5000 hits to sponsors is very small for that timeframe - which tells me that you are not being listed at very many LLs - and I was just trying to give you the reasons that might cause that - with the amount of cheaters that LLs deal with every day(as an example - just today my reviewers blacklisted 153 submitters) it is in your best interests to do everything you can to stay away from the little things that can cause an instant ban - and the whois info is just the first step. |
Going back and re-reading - Iguess that was just one set of sites that sent 5000 hits to a sponsor and no sales - looking at that set of free sites - the thumbs suck - they are distorted and pixellized so a bad start. The sales text is horrible - if youre trying to get a surfer hot and bothered - that is just not going to do it.
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I won't debate about marketing much since many other people said enough here and also in the books. You have to sell with your heavu artillery: I copied your copy (which isn't really a sales pitch):"Pantyhose posing in the Emperor's chamber. That or she decided to get undressed at the furniture store again. No matter what, these are the uber models of pantyhose posing. Check out the web site and I'm sure you'll agree. When you're done click on the Planet Pantyhose link for more. Treat yourself like an Emperor, after all it's really not that expensive. " Try replacing it with this, make new site and submit to LLs: BIG YELLOW HEADLINE:"DISCOVER MY PLANET OF HORNY GIRLS" "When you see my horny girlfriends wearing those new pantyhoses and flashing their shaved juicy pussies ready for your big cock, you'll be begging for MORE! If you behave, I'll let you visit my private planet - Planet Pantyhose. ENTER MY SITE FOR INSTRUCIONS." and don't link yet to sponsor. Let them enter your site and try to "discover" themselves. Just an idea... |
1:350 isn't magic. A high converting paysite should average below 1:200.
I sort of understand your scepticism though. When I first started, I didn't even believe I'd get a check, and when I got my first check, I wasn't sure if it was real or fake. My first free sites were pretty horrible. I remember checking my sponsor stats every day and seeing no sales day after day. One paysite I remember I sent 4000 clicks and no sales. My sites looked good, the thumbs weren't over compressed, I used horny text, I used different gallery layouts, etc etc... but the sales just weren't coming. I asked people about stats, and when people said I should be getting 1:500 at least I was "like how?" Well, after a few good advice from other webmasters, I changed my approach, and I started seeing some amazing numbers that makes 1:350 look like shit. So here's my advice...people here are not steering you wrong, re-read this thread and start building better sites. |
Thanks for taking the time to explain Linkster, and for making perfect sense!
The idea is to tempt the surfer into looking for a bit more and then let the tour do it's job, rather than trick the surfer onto the tour and create another pissed off porn-hunter. I understand. So much great advice here. It's amazing. |headbang| |
I also get low conversions on my sites and I know I got a shit load to learn but I keep reading and keep experimenting.
6 sales is nothing. I've got 4 in just under 4 weeks and I am shit. And thats my first proper 4 weeks of the freesite game. Thats from 18 freesites in 4 weeks and I'm now at the level of making 6 new ones a week. High conversion ratios are hard to pull, it takes practice. And your traffic levels are exceptionally low. You do have a problem getting accepted at LLs despite what you think. After 4 weeks I am getting 3500 uniques a day to my freesites after submitting to 18 freesites to LLs. Its just my conversion ratios are not great :( I'm pretty sure having fake whois info is illegal so its not just a LL acceptance issue. |
I havent made my first sale yet and I too have been puting out one free site + one gallery per day. I am constantly tripping over my own feet, but thanks to the people on the boad I am constantly improving and know that Ill get there soon enough. Unfortionatly you came onto this board with the wrong attitude. One thing which I figured out is that this board consists heavily of linklist owners which are very critical - if you are looking for a more cream puff everythings ok just hold on answer you may want to try posting here: http://www.netpond.com/ if you are honest of your intentions and are truly looking for answers then this is the right place - you just have to listen.
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(and as soon as I make my first sale I'll let you know the site)
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This guy is obviously very bitter he's been doing this for 6 months and hasn't made a penny. Shit I would be too.
The main thing I don't get is why the hell would anyone work for 6 months without making any coin, then decide to start asking questions? Yeah I would have been on the boards asking questions and advice after 1-2 months of no sales. Would have saved yourself a lot of wasted time. |
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