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Ramster 2003-11-28 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by plateman
man i must have freeloader traffic or my sponsors sites suck i have yet to convert

i dont have mega traffic but out of a 100 people to sponsor you would think that 1 person would know how or want to take a free trial and cancel if they dont like it

it is so hard to get started in this biz

1:100 is unrealistic. I have sponsors that do that some days or better and some sponsors that do 1:200 over an entire month but when sending 100 hits to a sponsor daily you might not see a sale for weeks.

Keep building! It sounds redundant but until you can start sending at least 1000 hits daily or more to a sponsor then you will not see consistent sales.

Spend less time on the boards wondering about sales and keep building!

plateman 2003-11-28 10:54 AM

good advice ramster

I just signed up with extreme pay and going to build more sites

have a good one

coy 2003-11-28 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fisty Palmer
I'm certainly not a voice of experience here, but from a surfer point of view I think sign-ups will continue to slow down for two fundamental reasons:

1) There's too much free content.

2) Some of the paysites really suck, and people are tired of having their pockets picked.

Does it work to refuse to list galleries containing excessively graphic content? In other words, show some skin but leave something to the imagination.

Concerning paysites, doesn't it make sense to investigate what you're promoting? If, for example, the site in question has a great tour but the content inside fails to live up to the hype, isn't it better to not promote such sites and avoid the negative reputation received for marketing low quality goods?

Fisty
|rasta|

I agree with ya! There is WAY too much free porn out there and I'm not just talking the free sites and TGPs. A surfer, if they have some sort of searching abilities, can find all the porn they could ever want and not pay a cent.

Now, on the paying side... I have done many porn site reviews and I have to say a vast majority of them shouldn't call themselves paysites. From lack of content to crappy members' areas... it is no wonder people don't trust the Adult Industry as a whole. There are webmasters out there who are slapping 100 pictures or so together and calling it a paysite, charging 39.95 a month. It is truley sad.

If I promote something, I make damned sure it would be something I wouldn't mind paying for.

Just my day after Turkey day, I'm full on leftovers, ramblings :)

plateman 2003-11-28 05:13 PM

I would SAy to much free stuff

I to was a porn surfer but never hit the jack pot of free porn till i started doing web sites and found the best free porn link lists and tpgs and movies clips are getting popular and most people are not going to sign up when they can watch 15 free clips even though they are short..

and the traffic thieves are going to keep making the video clips longer and longer till nobody signs up then we will think why ?

tgps should all have 10 pics max not 15 next they will want 20
because the more free shit the tpgs and link lists give out the more traffic they will get and the small % of sign ups will be had by the owners of the tpgs and link lists because you and I know that there shit comes first and that is why I am starting a link list

My 2 cents

thrillho 2003-11-28 05:40 PM

Hey all. Just thought I'd offer my experience with this question--though it's only about 11 months worth of experience : )
I spent plenty of time looking for a sponsor with something unique--that didn't look like all the others within a niche. I still promote and make some money from some of the biggies, but my most consistent converter is a smaller site with exclusive content and an obvious attention to detail that, if rebills are any indication, keeps members very happy. I don't have huge traffic numbers, but this site and a couple of others keep that CCBill check coming just about every week. And I still take time to look around for new sponsors that seem to understand what makes a site stand out and keep people interested. Of course, I still haven't been able to quit the day job : )

thrillho 2003-11-28 05:45 PM

Oh yeah, one other big thing about this sponsor--he let's me make my own banners. I've found that to be extremely beneficial. Not too many seem to be keen on letting us do our own promo design for their sites (understandably wanting to have some quality control), but, if you're allowed and have some graphic design ability, it really can make a difference.
Incidentally, the sponsor I mention isn't taking new affiliates now--I promise I'm not just being greedy by not sharing my little golden (well, high quality brass) egg.

graphicsbytia 2003-11-29 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by plateman
hey digibucks do u have free content to promote your sites and what is it converting at

thanks

We have a lot of free content plateman, in fact we just put up lot more this last week, and our sites are going way beyond our expectations on conversions. We already knew a couple of them did well because they were personal paysites of ours and have been doing consistantly well over the years.

If you're not signed up with digibucks yet here's a link for you http://www.digibucks.com go and sign up, things are really rockin for us :)

plateman 2003-11-29 12:34 AM

That sounds good I will join soon..

I just joined extreme and will do some sites with them and give your program try

I just started in this biz a couple months ago so I am a little short on traffic now but I plan on building more free sites and in between them i started a link list that is on the net but is under construction ..

thanks have a nice one

Extreme John 2003-11-29 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by thrillho
Oh yeah, one other big thing about this sponsor--he let's me make my own banners. I've found that to be extremely beneficial. Not too many seem to be keen on letting us do our own promo design for their sites (understandably wanting to have some quality control), but, if you're allowed and have some graphic design ability, it really can make a difference.
Incidentally, the sponsor I mention isn't taking new affiliates now--I promise I'm not just being greedy by not sharing my little golden (well, high quality brass) egg.

This is putting it lightly and 100% correct. The fact is the harder and more Boundryless people think, the better their results, ofcourse all of this takes some time and some skill, which only makes sence, Barry Bonds is the All Time Homerun Champion because he got lucky once or twice swinging the bat, he did all of the things he needed to do to increase his ability. Create your own tours, see if you can get additionl info from the sponbsor or even a pass into the affiliate area, if your traffic is up and you have a good gameplan see if the sponsor will allow you to download and tag your own images or movies for galleries (this generates EXCELLENT results), create your own banners, link to join pages, spend time marketing your galleries and sites properly. I think more so today than in the past because of the huge influx of Hosted Sites & Hosted Galleries, someone that spends the time doing the above has a huge advantage and sales potential, because everyone is using the promo tools that make life easier, EVERYONE which means harder conversion numbers and less sales accross the board. We have affiliates that use Hosted Galleries & Hosted Sites, they send 3x the traffic and generate 1/3 of the money that an affiliate that creates their own tours, galleries, sites etc. Working hard will make a differance, but may not be overnight.

NotThatKevin 2003-12-01 06:52 AM

I've found that you have good and bad cycles all the time and I've never been able to pin point it to anything in particulare LOL

We have 14 sites for the price of one and of the 14 I've found that the my exclusive ones do the best. On two of my exclusives we shoot requests for the members and they love it. They do more promotion for these sites to their friends and chat boards than we do :)

The strange thing is that I have one site which has half exclusive and this one does extremely well compared to the exclusive ones. It is a uniform and costume niche.

Extreme John 2003-12-01 09:25 AM

Yeah I agree with that Kevin, mainly because it's still pretty much a Micro niche.

NotThatKevin 2003-12-01 10:37 AM

Extreme John my partner Collin kept sending me all these sets of girls in uniforms and I left them one side because I was more interested in Billie and Mica's content. Then one day I thought I may as well use it as a filler for the current members I already had and didn't think it would be popular at all. When the sales started I was amazed and called my partner at the studio and told him to shoot more content LOL.

I know it was a strange way to start a pay site but hey I didn't think it was popular at all. Never to old to learn :)

Cleo 2003-12-01 10:42 AM

Last month turned out to be a pretty decent month for me after all. Especially when I consider the fact that I was busy with one of my other businesses and couldn't spend as much time building and submitting as I would have liked to.

Yeah I do very well with the uniform niche. Seems surfers like their babes dressed in silly clothing so that they can watch them take it slowly off. ;)

|bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna|

Extreme John 2003-12-01 06:20 PM

Nah Kevin not that strange at all to be honest, we have started plenty of sites like that in the past and im sure many other sponsors have as well.

BigJohn 2003-12-01 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by NotThatKevin
I've found that you have good and bad cycles all the time and I've never been able to pin point it to anything in particulare LOL

We have 14 sites for the price of one and of the 14 I've found that the my exclusive ones do the best. On two of my exclusives we shoot requests for the members and they love it. They do more promotion for these sites to their friends and chat boards than we do :)

The strange thing is that I have one site which has half exclusive and this one does extremely well compared to the exclusive ones. It is a uniform and costume niche.

I have a uniform/costume niche site that's just about half exclusive. It was my first site and even without promoting it much well, it still did pretty well. Now that I'm starting to promote it it's starting to climb up the charts. Not a bad niche at all.
|ufo|
-BigJohn

Tommy 2003-12-01 08:32 PM

I remember when I first opened my uniforms cat

Greenie said i was crazy, it was to small of a niche and I would never get any submits for it

ha

NotThatKevin 2003-12-01 09:01 PM

I like the micro niches as I'm sure everbody else does :) We had a member on Billie Wests site that wanted a shoot of her wearing diapers and when Collin told me this I was totaly against it (stupid Me)

Well he did the shoot and within a week our sales increased and we had these new members asking for more diaper shoots. To cut a long story short we started diaper-girls and this is by far the easiest converting site for us. I only promote it about every 3 weeks yest sales roll in every day.

We also started a free site with pics, movies and forums and in about 6 months have over 5,000 members. I find in these micro niches their is a lot of advertisng done by the members on Yahoo/Google forums.

Greenguy 2003-12-01 09:01 PM

Looks who's talking, Mr I Only Have 18 Categories |bananna|

NotThatKevin 2003-12-01 09:02 PM

LOL Greenie was trying to keep you out of it Tommy ;)

Tommy 2003-12-01 09:07 PM

I am gonna open latinas and big tits very soon

hey what time is that radio thingy tomorrow
and i need the details

Tommy 2003-12-01 09:09 PM

Greenie is always the first guy to say

I am making nice money doin this
you should do this

Greenguy 2003-12-01 09:11 PM

You'd be wearing diamonds as big as horse balls if you took some of my advice 2 years ago :)

I'll call you tomorrow with details on the radio show - but make sure your ass is home at 8 PM tomorrow night :)

plateman 2003-12-01 09:14 PM

I start some good threads LOL

I Hope All you link list people list my link list

I got 40 categories Ha Ha with no traffic Beat That one LOL

Diapers Shit i think I will use myself for pic content on a free site

Tommy 2003-12-01 09:16 PM

8 pm, no problem

Kush 2003-12-01 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Greenguy
You'd be wearing diamonds as big as horse balls if you took some of my advice 2 years ago :)

I'll call you tomorrow with details on the radio show - but make sure your ass is home at 8 PM tomorrow night :)

So I'm guessing this is the Greenwhich Mean Time, yes?

|jester| |greenguy|

Extreme John 2003-12-02 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NotThatKevin
I like the micro niches as I'm sure everbody else does :) We had a member on Billie Wests site that wanted a shoot of her wearing diapers and when Collin told me this I was totaly against it (stupid Me)

Well he did the shoot and within a week our sales increased and we had these new members asking for more diaper shoots. To cut a long story short we started diaper-girls and this is by far the easiest converting site for us. I only promote it about every 3 weeks yest sales roll in every day.

We also started a free site with pics, movies and forums and in about 6 months have over 5,000 members. I find in these micro niches their is a lot of advertisng done by the members on Yahoo/Google forums.

Dont give out too much info, theres an old saying about those loose lips :) Hahaha.

Jeeeezzzz GG & Tommy get a room. Although I would like some Diamonds the size of horse balls myself, those would be worth some loot.


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