It's not a man vs. woman thing -- there are a number of men (even on webmaster boards!) who have earned their red wings, who think sex during menstruation is normal and fine and not a threat to the industry, etc. and there are plenty of women who agree with you, Alex, and think their menses are nasty and gross. My point earlier that you glommed onto is simply that the majority of men in this industry would see capitulating to the regs regarding menstruation as "an acceptable tradeoff" because they have no personal investment in it. It's a fact, and I don't expect guys to champion this issue.

Menstrual fluid and piss and shit are all really very distinct things. I'm sorry for you that you equate menstruation with your daily bowel movements -- it's really not the same thing at all or even comparable. Are you really saying fucking a girl in her pussy while she's menstruating is the same as fucking a girl up the ass while she's taking a shit? Stupid. Really stupid. It may come as a shock to you, but most people lay down a towel and fuck while the chick is on the rag, but most people do not integrate scat into sex. Doctors even tell women with menstrual cramps that orgasm may help relieve them.

What comes out of my pussy is not the same as what comes out of your ass. Sorry to disappoint you and complicate your simpleminded world view.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with yeast infections -- looks like your cute little Mississippi IQ prevented you from understanding the analogy. Thanks for trying anyway.

It's true, I rarely pop up unless something comes up where I hope I can lend a unique perspective or when my name is specifically mentioned. There are plenty of smart people with more experience than I on this board who have more relevant things to say than I do. At this point I don't get a lot out of the boards since I don't run the same kinds of sites as most people here and my affiliate program is rather neglected so I don't have a lot to offer, either. But basically I just hate reading retarded shit and being tempted to post retarded shit in response and would rather spend time talking to my members than sitting around on the boards.

Sorry for taking Emma's fun yeast thread off track . . .

Trixie, once again, you totally utterly miss the point.

It isn't me. I got my red wings ages ago, I don't have anything against it (most girls I know are not interested, as they feel that they are dirty during that time and don't want to participate). I dont' really care one way or the other about scat or watersports or whatever. If that is what turns people on, more power to them, I guess, providing they don't hurt themselves and become a burden to society.

There is a huge difference between my personal opinion and what is acceptable business wise in order to keep partners like Visa and Mastercard in the game and to keep agencies like DoJ out of your house. For them, what comes out that isn't directly involved in sex ain't good, at least based on what I have read and been told so far.

There is a huge difference between business choices and personal choices. Perhaps your work as a camgirl has blurred that line until you can't see it.

Alex

Edit: now I am truly done. Sorry, but I cannot let someone insult me and put words in my mouth.

Alex, you are good guy with an open mind & I don't believe you meant to cause this uproar.

Yes, there are the decisions you make for your business has "limits" in the business community, if you allow them. It is your PERSONAL decision to play by the rules & not rock the boat, it is their PERSONAL decision to push the rules and call the business limits hypercritical, because they are.

The major point is YOUR way of business is NOT the only way to do business.

People tend to fear what they don't understand.


Come on Trix, you can do better than this, that was uncalled for, although just as wrong as so I do understand the impulse.



In my experience, Ccbill initially reviews sites with a bot, picking up hot keywords. They are relatively easy to work with, it only takes a bit of effort to open a discussion to point out context as Trixie & Tucker did.

(Trix- Kass & I are looking forward to seeing you in Vegas)

Wow I have a second thing that isn't intelligent to add to this thread… I am Furrygirls official stalker not Alex!

My 2.3 canadian cents:-)

I am perfectly content with my cute little Mississippi IQ. Lucky me for being an over achiever.

I do think Trixie is a little cute thing. Is there something wrong with saying that one finds another to be attractive. Or is that something similar to the "buddy/friend" deal?

In 1962, I was in a building that got tear gassed by US Marshals. It scared the shit out of me and I considered painting my face black to save my ass. While this is a true statement it is offensive and has no value in this or any other discussion on this board. Either does the jewish statement made by Trixie.

BTW, I know every one here does not celebrate Thanksgiving but I am thankful that I live in a society where folks can speak their opinion, agree or disagree and still exist with each other.

I do hate getting hair stuck between my teeth

hehe- Do we need to teach you the buddy lesson again?

Now ain't that a bitch but I do have a problem with eating high to stay dry?

I don't know if you're "friends" with Trixie or not.

But, here's my perspective: it's unprofessional to call a business colleague a "cute little thing", and in a regular office job, it would be called sexual harassment. Now, I know we're all here because we don't want stuffy office jobs, but the same general rules of not talking down to women and telling them they're "cute little things" still applies. It's incredibly dismissive and rude.

I understand that there are many "amateurs with their own sites" where the husband totally runs the show and the chick's board personality (if any) is that she's just the cutest little thing ever and maybe contributes to some humorous threads. But, not all "amateur" sites function on that model, so when you're talking to Trixie or I, you're talking to a business owner, not a booth bunny.

Then you dont want to hear about my past history with Jettis/Epoch.

While we are in Vegas at least let me make the introduction to Corvett @ CCbill. I dont know if it will help but I have found thier customer support to be excellent and as many people have said in other threads... CCBill has never been late on one payment.

Goddamn Alex... did you read what you posted? Werent you just soapboxing on high moral stands and low business sense in the last thread?

Hey Furrygirl. I trust you had a good holiday break. BTW, what do vegetarians eat on turkey day?

I guess that I am a friend of a friend of Trixie. Would not mind being her friend as I try real hard to be friendly to all and I do make a conscience effort not to be offensive. It would hurt me deeply if I walked into a room and everyone ducked out for the rest rooms saying "Oh no, Chop is here". It would also equally hurt me if the members of this community did not pay attention to my posts because they found them so opinionated that it appeared that I was trying to pick a fight.

Oh, I know quite a few business owners that are 'cute little things'. Certainly nothing wrong with being attractive and having substance between the ears. It believe when I stated that Trixie was a 'cute little thing' I also eluded to her being smart. Tell you something I have noticed about her posts. She states her facts and/or beliefs well and shuts up. Sort of like; here is what I think, I disagree with you, I know I can not change your opinion, I have more important things to do and I will see you later when the discussion warrants my opinion.

BTW, I find your bed-room eyes to be very appealing.

Congrats once again to GG&J for letting this thread continue along. Albiet its heated debate on here it has still been intelligent. Makes me pine for a old times elsewhere that is not soon forgotten.

On a side note - Alex please allow me to buy finest blowjob availible in Vegas that wont break my $5 budget! You need to relieve some tension.

Gonzo, since this is a 'chit chat' thread, I assume it is okay for me to say forget about a blow job for Alex. He would probably just be satisfied for you to promote his new 'dump site'.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with CCBill as a processor, which is why I've been with them for the 2 years since PSW took my money and ran. I just don't like their anti-red policy, and I think they are painfully obtuse when it comes to using their bots to determine whether or not something is onjectionable or not. Context is everything. You could have a link that says "Don't email me for a link trade if you're a filthy fucking pedophile, I'll turn you over to the police", and they'll say you have pedo content on your site and they're going to pull your billing.

It took both Trixie and I a number of emails to clarify the contexts of what we link to with CCBill, but they did come around. Now, if only they would decide that twat goo is no less freaky than cock goo.

Id be happy to but everyone knows Im just a Fat Fucking Nobody...

It all washes off.

I'm actually vegan, which means I don't eat anything that comes from animals, including eggs, dairy, and bee products. I'm doing dinner with some friends this weekend, and I'll be picking up an Unturkey. I find it far superior to their competitor's Tofurkey because of the better gravy and yuba wrap. I'll also be making mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie and faux cream, orange rolls, some kind of vegetable, and stuffing from scratch. I love pumpkin pie, and make it throughout the year, so I've been meaning to add it to my site's Naked Vegan Recipes section soon.

It takes just a second to grasp Alex' concern about menstration from a business / legal standpoint, but really, if I had to choose between making good money promoting "gaping schoolgirl assholes [dot] com" and linking straight (without ref codes) to bloodytrixie.com or furrygirl.com, I'd choose the latter in an instant.

I, for one, am tired of seeing the same old cookie-cutter bullshit.

I'm sure that CCbill would love to be able to have a knowledgable human personally review every web site, but that just isn't practical. It would involve a substantial labor cost, which would get passed along as higher processing fees for everyone. You may be willing to pay those higher fees for such service, but I doubt many others agree.

Gonzo, I will not be in vegas, so you have saved yourself at least $5 in life.

Save those pennies, they might come in handy very soon.

Alex

Can I put them in a piggy bank?

I totally agree with you; the problem that arises is when they send out an email saying you've linked to a forbidden site (totally understandable for things to be automated up to this point), and you email them back explaining the context, and the rep responding can't figure out that the site shouldn't be blacklisted or is afraid to make that kind of a judgement call or even to ask a supervisor's opinion before hammering out responses on how they absolutely positively refuse to look at context and context doesn't matter one whit. It shouldn't be THAT hard to figure out that Scarleteen or Margaret Cho's blog (as two examples) are not porn sites, not peddling obscene content, etc.

Vaginal lubrication that comes out of my vagina mixed with menstrual fluid IS directly involved in sex.

If you have earned your red wings I really can't understand why you would choose to equate menstrual fluid with feces (unless you've also earned your brown wings and find the experience interchangeable).

There you go again. Camming IS business. My business sense is not lacking simply because I've integrated the personal, the political, and the professional aspects of my life in a healthy and fulfilling way while you choose to run a business devoid of personality or politics. That's fine if that's what you want to do, but it doesn't make you more business savvy or make your business model superior to my own or mean that I should dumb down my business model to save YOUR ass or mean that I have lost site of "business".

Wish we were going!

I don't know you well enough to have been able to read your cute little thing remark without taking offense to it and pecking out my MS ip remark. But I forgive you if you forgive me. I certainly don't hold my own self to high standards of professionalism myself when dealing with folks on the boards so I don't really expect other people to -- but yeah . . . I initially read your comment as one of condescension. I probably won't remember it if I meet you in person, so no -- I won't run out of the room screaming, especially now that you've stroked my ego so nicely.

But I still think the analogy I made was totally appropriate!

That's one of the most encouraging remarks I've read in a long while! |headbang|

BTW, I do not mean to make it sound as though I am absolutely fearless of consequences or that I don't worry at all about the repercussions of pushing for red porn to be acceptable. There are a host of reasons (though saving Raw Alex's business isn't one of them) I can think of to be concerned about the fallout from pushing for the right to make and sell whatever kind of porn people want to make as long as it doesn't hurt anyone in a direct measurable way without their consent.

*tossing goodhead*..My SMART pal Trixie who also happens to be "cute" although my lust belongs to Delia. |roses|

Having stayed out of these threads for a number of reasons, let me just say I do promote Trixie's multitude of sites, all of which are unique and ROCKING.. with the exception of her red site BECAUSE i'm not exactly sure where or how to promote it properly so my thought is.. if i sell tastytrixie, trixieshouseboy, spyonus etc.. and someone who is intrigued by the red content, none of which is on her aforementioned sites, by reading her site or her blog, they will eventually make their own way to "bloody trixie".

As to the ccbill policies, it is their business model and their envelope to push to Visa.. I'm sure most of us can recall the pre-visa meltdown days when we could virtually sell most anything without having to worry about massive chargebacks etc. Think how little we would sell if ALL those Visa Check Cards were pulled off our market because someone in Visa Complience USA discovered their contract with ccbill wasn't being honored.

I don't like this president. I can protest all I want but it isn't going to change his evil ways.

|waves| Glad to see you over here, Trix, and sorry you won't be in Vegas!!

Mother Cam Whore, you are a party pooper.

v(k) = max over k' of { u(k,k') + b*v(k') }

I like all of the mentioned sites that trixie and furry girl have. If someone is into the kink and its CONSENTUAL then why not? This goes the same for pee and poo sites. I really could care less if someone likes eating shit.

Everyone knows that when I argue that something is bad for ALL OF OUR BUSINESS it is because the site in question is pushing past the line when it comes to consentualism.

CCBill not liking pee poo and blood has very little to do with consentualism. Someone up there made a decision to be conservative. They really dont give a shit what we think, afterall, it is us that need them.

RawAlex. I agree with you saying that we cannot push the limits by harassing CCBill et al but really I don't see these two ladies doing this. They questioned just as you would do if all the sudden you were told that one of your niches could not be processed for.

I dont think processors feel any sort of threat from webmasters/adult business. If they dont want to do it they just dont. Even if you take them to court they can just say its their business model.

Thank you! :D

In think yall should look at promoting her. I do.

I promote her. She evens submits galleries to me when she feels like it :D

Indeed I do. Between running 3 paysites and a store, I don't have time to make more than 1 or 2 TGP galleries a month, it's mainly my affiliates that do the TGP work.

So Surfn, as long as we're on the thread, are you going to allow period galleries on your TGP?

I am curious as to what paysite would you promote with period galleries.

I'd be happy to if I had the category :)

I would list free sites in my general fetish category :)

Erotic Red, as soon as I get it all sorted out. I actually finally might have found a biller who jives with blood content *and* I don't have to incorporate in the EU to use, so hopefully soon. :)

Surfn: You surely have an "amateur" or "fetish" category, don't you? My aim with the site is not to hype menstruation as a super-freaky out-there thing, so I'm not primarily after "extreme fetish"-type categories for submissions.

Linkster: First, I had never noticed that you had a safer sex page, that's a very cool addition! |thumb I don't know if I'll ever get into free sites, since I see them as generally just ugly internet clutter with too many ads, but maybe I'll do something creative at some point.