Based on the answer I got yesterday from Lars, without a valid legal claim sent to their legal department, they are not going to just remove affiliates. I am truly disappointed by this type of answer, and I don't think I will be listing any more sites promoting them on my link sites and such.

Not really much to say past that.

Alex

One down |thumb

Don't cheer too loudly yet, it may only be temporary.

I'll be keeping an eye on this for awhile to see if he gets reactivated.

Yes, it should not take four days of public discourse. When presented with irrefutable proof of content theft the appropriate action is quite clear.

The feeling I get Toby is that it isn't acceptable for you or I to report the theft, because it isn't out content. Even though we can clearly see a hotlink or trimmed content or whatever, it is not ours so we have no technical legal claim.

It is apparently an acceptable business practice to ignore obvious or likely shady activity until the victim comes to and calls the police. In the mean time we can all just walk around the virtual body and act like it isn't there.

Alex

Excellent visual, you do have a way with words. |thumb

Effective immediately all submits with links to AFF will be deleted.

.... and they're gone. Good to see |thumb

In the end what I don't get is this: AFF / CAMS could just say "no hotlinked images ever" and that would be the end of it. No need to wait for the offended party to complain, anyone could report and things would be taken care of.

It just seems to me that this is all arranged the wrong way around.

I will give AFF credit for one thing: Once they shut down the affiliate, they don't accept the traffic any more at all. That is significantly better than the "cancel but take the traffic anyway" bullshit that other companies pull.

Alex

Karmetically speaking, I'm amused. Please excuse me while i do a bit of a 'happy dance' |roses|

NEXT!

http://fusker.wegotcandy.com/index.php

"JohnWebcams.com" dropped his signature on every thread he could yesterday... and guess what - webcams.com supports those lovely thieves at Fusker!

Lets see how quick his sig appears in this thread?

DD

I never done any good with AFF and fuck it there gone on my LL and anyone promoting them will be deleted...

I give a fuck!!!!!
 

I dont fuck people over daggie dave. I do not steal content either dodgy dave. I promote AFF and I am not a cheat! Are you calling me a cheat donkey dave...ARE YOU.....

love debbie
just because i'm a girl, don't be afraid to answer back....

... and your point is?

Did I mention you? Do I know you? Did I rattle your cage?

DD

Ummm.... ummmm. No matter how many times I read it, I don't read it as he is saying that everybody who promotes AFF cheats.

I read it as a lot of people who cheat uses AFF. Not the other way around... that everybody who uses AFF are cheaters.

O.K. lets put it this way,

DangerDave quote 1: I sincerely doubt a AFF Rep will turn up here.
>>and he has! (Sagi AFF)

DangerDave quote 2: They simply dont give a flying fuck about content theft, trademark infringement or copyright infringement.
>>The guy in questions account has been suspended!

DangerDave quote 3: they certainly aint gonna kill anyones account.
>> and they have!

I am simply replying to DD's brash remarks which I disagree to.

Debbie

But it took alot of heat here and on GFY to make that happen.

I'm sure the public exposure weighed heavily in that decision, and it still took three days.

The jury is still out, the account is only suspended not permanently banned.

That's why they hold horse races, differences of opinion.

Gee Dave you have this knack for pulling out the best in people :D

Jeez is that all it was...! As usual 'read the damn thread'!!!

Way back here - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...5&postcount=15 - I said - "I will gladly take back some of what I said in my previous post.. and I am glad to see that AFF are taking "some" action."

Which I did/am more than happy to do 'IF' AFF kills this thieves account....

As Swedguy said - NOWHERE did I say "everyone that promotes AFF is a cheat/thief" - Like just about everyone on this board... I promote them... but am now seriously looking at discontinuing that relationship.

Surn - Too true mate, too true :(

DD

2 days 3 days who cares the right things been done and the guys banned

Who said the jury was still out? Who said it was suspended? To me the message is quite clear and i quote:
"You received this message because you were most likely directed to Adult FriendFinder by one of our affiliates who was using marketing or advertising methods that are in violation of our Terms of Use and Affiliate Agreement.
The person who directed you to our site has been banned from doing business with us"

seems pretty not suspended to me but possible banned!

Debbie

see below

I also included this in reply #43 in this thread.

Wonder what debbie's real name is.

Probably Sagi :D

I find it hilarious when people register a new username to get on a thread and act like an ass. The funny thing is it is becoming more and more common for people to impersonate the female species in an attempt to get more of an advanteage. I wonder when all us guys will stop responding differently to supossed "females".

Here is some fucked up shit that I am trying to figure out how to handle it. Adult Friend Finder has been, in my book, a scummy spam supporter for a long time. Now not too long ago I found out that they have a VERY illegal picture that belongs ONLY to me. It isn't content it is a picture of my ex's bestfriend laura lea jones. Here is the screenshot

http://www.thehotgirlblog.com/aff-screenshot.jpg

Now I have been pondering what to do. I know that if I contact the girl and we both file suit we can get "damages" for her and I could get money from all sales made off of my illegally stolen picture. I have been thinking of maybe pursuing this. But I have also found that I could pursue it through the goverment but I figure it is not worth it to use the government because 99% of the bullshit cheating, spamming, and other illegal internet activities seem to originate from certain foreign countries. You know the guys who go and make there own little message boards in their own little languages so they can sit around and talk about their little schemes.


Any advice on this would be great.

So your ex's friend never did live shows on AFF? and never did a photo shoot with a photographer that could have sold the image to AFF? If you can answer no to both questions then my advice is for the two of you to go talk to a lawyer.

Toby - Those pictures were done in my apartment with my camera about 4 years ago (right before a kick ass threesome). The girl is now married and living in a small town in Louisiana. There is no way that anyone could have a model release or anything pertaining to that picture or that girl. She was NEVER under the impression those pictures would be used by anyone other than me and definitely not to promote Adult Friend Finder.

I honestly wish people would put the burden of proof on the right people. There seems to be alot of defending of companies that deserve more suspicion and less trust.

You definitely need to speak to a good lawyer.

Gideon.. what Toby said... Speak to a lawyer... and have no mercy!


Where is Sagi now?

Beuller?
Beuller?
.....................

DD

Some fucktard surfer probably grabbed that pic from somewhere, created a profile on AFF and used that pic, claiming it was their girlfriend or wife. That's the beauty of AFF - if you create a profile and upload your 'private' pics - they don't see a problem with using those pics for promotional materials. They respect their members as much as they respect their affiliates. Go ahead - create a profile, then request to have your profile deleted. They'll never delete it. This way, they can claim that everyone who has signed up during their entire history is an active member. Cocksuckers. Two years after the wife and I stopped using AFF and requested the deletion of our profile (because it's full of pic collectors and scum) we had friends telling us that our profile was still up.

Just to chime in, will AFF delete this hotlinkers account?

http://www.opendirviewer.com/?url=ht...l&pagecount=25

NO THEY WON'T based on their history in cases like these.

Another thief supporter...

AdultAdWorld - http://www.adultadworld.com/

They do ads on - http://www.opendirviewer.com/

DD

adultdatingfreesitetotally.com

69,000+ subdomains, cloaked, every page redirects uniformly to --->

http://omgtraffic.com/porn --->

surprise, surprise....

http://adultfriendfinder.com/search/p156794.subcountry_de_02&override=1

These guys just love AFF

and it's looking more and more like AFF loves 'em right back.

...and another one:

http://www.imgshare.net/
AFF account: g666437-ppc
SexSearch account: ref=19621&kwd=adultdating44
AdBrite seems to be quite popular among these kind of sites too.

RubberEva .com content: http://www.imgshare.net/?a=showimage...cx2_BCB127.jpg
Bangbros content: http://www.imgshare.net/?a=showimage..._ct1488047.jpg
Lightspeed content: http://www.imgshare.net/?a=showimage...e-stone-09.jpg
NaughtyAmerica .com content: http://www.imgshare.net/?a=showimage...o_bscap000.jpg

... and here comes the reply from the main sponsor on that site, Perfect Gonzo:

Ticket
Status: Closed

No reply. Just closed the ticket. So for all you guys who's into stealing content and need a sponsor, you know what to do |thumb

Hey UW. I know what you mean. I have an account with AFF(what's a single webmaster that works 12-18 hour days to do LOL), and am constantly getting emails from people claiming to be a hot girl, then they send you to their page to get an adult check pass. I'd be willing to bet most of those pics being used in those "fake" profiles are being stolen. But, how would you prove that? And who would be responsible, AFF or the Adult Pass sponsor? I would think that would create some nice chargebacks, since they are tricking people into thinking they're gonna be talking to the girl they saw the pic of on AFF.

On another note, new rule added to TripleXworld.com. No more submissions will be accepted that promote AFF. |thumb

The cheater is back in business with a new AFF affiliate account.

Gallery from my original post to start this thread
http://www.sweet-sin.com/e/btr2/v61.html

New referral link
http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/g243075

How could this guy get a new account without AFF knowing it's the same guy? I smell a rat.

Hello,

I wanted to take a minute to introduce myself. I'm from Adult AdWorld. We're an adult ad network that pays publishers on a CPM basis (per impression) rather than per signup. Simon from BDSMWorld alerted me that our company name was associated with a discussion here regarding opendirviewer. I want to thank Simon for taking time to explain some of the issues. He was extremely helpful. I also want to open some dialog about opendirviewer with this board, and would like to start with some questions.

Is it universally felt that all of opendirviewer's content misappropriated?

Is it opendirviewer doing the misappropriating or is it that they allow others to do so and do not police them?

How would you suggest a company like mine handle situations like this? (How should we investigate, and what proof is reasonable to make us sever ties)?

As Simon pointed out to me, there are standards of legality and then there are ethics. Those two don't always match so where do we draw the line?

That's enough for now. I hope you all take this in the spirit it is meant - to open a sincere dialog with this board to help my company make decisions that support and enhance the adult community. That's why we started a CPM instead of a CPA based network. We felt adult webmasters should have the same opportunities as mainstream webmasters.

I look forward to hearing from you.

As I see it opendirviewer is no different than fusker. They are republishing images from web pages they do not own, without consent, and are stealing bandwidth while doing so by hotlinking those images. The only case where it would not be "misappropriation" is when the owner of the web page submits the URL to opendirviewer. I'd guess that happens very rarely.

Investigation is pretty easy. Is content hotlinked from another web site? If yes, can the site owner provide written consent for each and every link? I think we both know the answer to that without asking.

Hiya |waves|

I'm glad you decided to come talk with the good folks on this board.

One thing I might suggest (unless the moderators have a way to do it here easily) would be to start your own thread about this. Being on page 4 of someone else's thread may get you less responses, or responses that aren't directly about your services.

I should mention here that Adult-AdWorld initiated contact with us regarding using their service, and their CEO has been very concerned to learn more about the problems that Fusker/opedirviewer cause for us once I brought up a few points with him.

I hope others will take a few minutes to contribute to this thread (or another one if there is a standalone thread started). It could be a good chance to get one of the thieving bastards' revenue streams chopped off -- the only real way to hurt them back.


Simon