Hmm, with the board member count here being: 5,928 ya think they MAY have cut their own throats with more than just GG? |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|

doubtful but thanks for your concern

Bottom line is that I was fine until he mentioned galleries & that set me off. As a Link List owner, I can not fucking stand when people try to push galleries on me.

Had he looked at my referrals, he'd have seen that they all of the sales I've generated came from link-o-rama.com & they are all listed under Pay Sites on the category pages.

So because this ass basically cold called me & did no homework, I'm the ass for getting upset?

And let's not pretend that this little ICQ marketing ploy was not just a way to get personal with your affiliates. You've done this with 400 webmasters? Really? I'm betting that's most, if not all of your affiliates. I base this on my sales rank for this Pay Period that you have posted in the stats area:
Sales Rank: #14

I've sent TWO sales this period.

If your #14 affiliate has 2 sales, you do not have much more than 400 affiliates total. Send a fucking email like everyone else does.

Captain Obvious should have given up when I said no thanks. He should have realized that he was ignorant to my needs as a webmaster when I said that I didn't do that much with galleries.

Hell, according to CaptainObvious, he should have never sent me the 2nd ICQ, since I didn't reply to the 1st one.

the fact that you're still in this thread, still havent backed down or apologized, and still havent realized your mistakes is mind blowing to me.

its like talking to a brick wall. a brick wall with a shitty attitude.

hey but just a few posts ago he said he doesnt need you greenguy to make money! |thumb

I cant believe these two guys are in here defending an operation that's probably pulling in less money in a month than they could make selling lemonade on the fucking corner.

LMAO Not only have you shown that you have crap for biz sense but you have proven a tremendous amount of ignorance too if you think your attitude in this thread didn't cost you ANY possible affiliates from this board! |dizzy|

Just let me know if I need to chime in here. |thumb

Nothing would please me more :)

Lots of webmasters did two sales with our program, more did one, we have smaller webmasters and bigger webmasters, you're in the middle.

If you think our #1-13 affiliates do 1-2 joins a day each you're straight out wrong.

I don't understand where you guys get the "cold calls" and "telemarketing" bullshit from - I'm not trying to sell you anything, I just wanted to tell you about our new sites.

I don't care if you only have 1 site, I start off with everybody giving them galleries to see where they direct me since MOST webmasters own more than 1 site - you're the ONLY person to turn it into such a big issue.

I'm done here, I have more important things to work on, like I said in the ICQ, don't list the 123 sites on greenguy, I don't give a fuck.

The PROBLEM is your rep's response to that was "don't be an asshole"

THAT is the problem I have. Right away your rep is calling a valued affiliate (all affiliates are valuable IMO) an asshole. Don't you think there's a problem with that??????????????

If Greenguy said hey you're an asshole for contacting me, fuck off Captain still should just say sorry you feel that way. Good bye. Calling affiliates an asshole should NEVER EVER be an okay thing to do. |huh

Can you ICQ Greenguy and see if he will list the tgp galleries for your new site on Link-O-Rama? Bet he will not be as nice to you as he was to stupid. He would probably call you a useless cocksucker.

Bring the |popcorn|

Haha, yeah probably. Affiliates are everything right? Everybody knows paysites can't thrive without affiliates! ... or maybe affiliates just bring in more money than we're already making ... whatever you wanna think :)

LUNCH! good bye guys

I assumed you were on your death bed when this post had gone this far and we hadn't heard from you! ;-)

I would like to think you're not so stupid that you're trying to now say that affiliates arent important after you just said a few posts ago you individually contacted 400 of them earlier this week.

but I cant :(

|jester| omg over 400 affiliates is what he mentions and 386+ of them have less than 2 sales in 15 out of a 16 day payout period....woohoo, hate that I am missing out on that kinda income. NOT!

That was my read. :(

Well traffic is as traffic does, and we'll see how they get that traffic when the afffiliates are gone.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:37 PM
To : Greenguy
no thanks
__________________________

Once this has been said what else is there left to say other then "Thank you have a nice day"?

This is where it went from "just letting you know" to "telemarketing/spam"

Welcome to Cyber Zoo!
Don't feed the trolls and keep all limbs away from the cages.

Boogie.

I have come to 2 conclusions with you.

1) You don't read posts.

2) You read but just don't understand and assume things.

NEVER did Captain say that affiliates aren't important, just that they aren't our main income source.

Don't assume things.

Affiliates are important and it's Captains job to contact them to get them making cash with the program and he's doing a damn good job.

I have never once, not once been left alone after I've said "No thanks" to an affiliate manager.

If an affiliate manger quits there, they are bad reps.

We have many tools to offer so if an affiliate doesn't like one, we can offer them more.

unfuckinbelievable

I'd hit it. :D

Oh wait.. wrong board.. someone must have opened the cages.

oh and no fucking fat jokes or i'll have to sit on someone!! |escape|

josh forgive me if you're friends butcherjob on the english language leaves room for interpretation and forgive me for trying to make sense of it.

you certainly are smarter than the captainobvious fellow in your employment, you should probably be doing the rep'ing and posting and not that doofus with a shitpot attitude and a lack of communication skills.

for what its worth you dont know me, if you did, you'd know I almost finished a degree in literature and am quite capable of reading and understanding most posts, especially finding subtext, as I've done with what your friend has written. :)

Obviously neither of you run affiliate programs. To think that the first 10affiliates aren't doing 200+ sales a period each is being oblvious and stupid.

That's good. I am happy for you.

Tons of people are different, this is the internet, it's hard to read people. Captain says things like he means them. Affiliates aren't everything, he is right, that doesn't mean they aren't important which is exactly what he said and I know that's exactly what he means.

Subtext on the internet is like a blind woman playing guess your cock size with your pants still on. |loony|

Emotions don't exist on the internet, impossible to read.

Hmm, obviously you haven't been around long, YES GG did run an affiliate program, and I didn't see either of us quote what we suspected the top 10 were making...did you???

"Did run...."

FYI, a number of the people that have responded in this thread do indeed run affiliate programs and are just as stunned as the rest of us with the attitudes diplayed by you and your rep.

If I found out that someone representing my company had behaved in such a manner they'd now be seeking employment elsewhere.

I wasn't talking to everyone on the board, I was talking to fetish1 and GreenGuy.. READ!

It's a good thing that he doesn't work for you then.

I find it oddly amusing, you keep suggesting that people only read part or none of the facts and yet in my two line response, you quote two words and TOTALLY MISS the question that was asked... LOL Perhaps practice what you preach or don't preach! |thumb

From what I'm reading here, the problem seems fairly obvious (pun intended) - the people who run Metal Cash are a bunch of unbelievably ignorant cunts who don't have enough affiliates to make their program worth running, so they're spending their afternoon here continuing this piss thread in order to draw attention to themselves. A roadkill racoon's ass which as been rotting in the sun for three days would leave a better taste in my mouth than Metal Cash's performance here today.

I've had a few sponsor reps hit me up in the past with nothing more than a "hey there, I'm your rep, let me know if you need anything" and they always know enough to leave me alone when I don't express any interest. Good on 'em. But that CaptainOrifice dude is one dumb fucker. That, or he's just starved or attention. He's a neglected child wandering around looking for hugs. It's all so sad.

Good - then go the fuck away. If your program doesn't need affiliates, I guess no one else will be receiving ICQs from your annoying monkeyboy.

Oh I did read, every single word, and so have many others. You're diggin yourself a pretty big hole here. My point was that others in your position are just as appalled as I am, so your doesn't "run affiliate programs" point is meaningless.

Yes, it is good that he doesn't work for me. I can also guarantee you that none of his salary will ever be in part paid from any sales I might have sent your direction.

Naw, I read it.

Just you implying that affiliates aren't making money with my program isn't cool.

And like I said before it's hard to tell what people actual imply over the internet so I could be wrong with you saying that people aren't making a good income with my program and assuming that you mean everyone above him.

;)

OK, let me get this right to make sure I can read and understand.....

This started as "I want to help you" and turned into the "dont be an asshole" remark. Seems somebody missed a few lessons in Basic Customer Service 101. Anybody that worked for me that did that would be out the door immediately.

But the thing that I find the most offensive is Josh coming in and trying to back him up and justify his inexcusable behaviour. If it we me and I was the bos there, I would be coming in trying to clean up the mess that had been made, not jumping in the ring to sling punches myself.

I do run an affiliate program and realize that not only are my affiliates also my customers, they rank right up there as the most important. I just dont see how anybody could miss that. Is it just me??

Wow, you really are a useless warrior. I am not surprised at all that over 70% of your posts is insults.

Good job you are an experienced keyboard warrior, you should get a medal from everyone here.

Nope, not just you. I only see two people posting in this thread that have missed that. :D

But that just can't be Toby...C.O. already stated that they have done themselves NO damage here! |thumb

When people insult me and my program it's offensive and it's like punching me. When someone punches me I don't sit around and do nothing.

Sorry if you don't like my practices. Best of luck with your program.

This is so simple. DUDE you came at GG with an offer. He told you no. Then you hard press. Please, your not making much of a case here in fact you are killing your own program. The shit has not even started and you are just being so stupid. You must have went to some fucked up business school. Heres some advice on which you could have avoided this whole nightmare. You come on the board say, sorry I was over worked blah blah. And forget it. Tomorrow is another day, and you still hold face and get get traffic. Now you are just looking to kill the site before it ever gets off the ground. Sit back have a drink and think about how you are going about business right now and how it's going to be screwed down the road. Heres the post, if it's wrong or edited then put up your side.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:37 PM
To : Greenguy
because I do very little with galleries

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:37 PM
From : Captain Obvious
may I ask why you aren't interested? these sites are selling like crazy

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:37 PM
To : Greenguy
no thanks (RIGHT HERE TIME TO SAY OK THANKS MAN HAVE A GOOD ONE)

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:37 PM
From : Captain Obvious
Can I get you a list of galleries so you can import them into your script?

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:36 PM
From : Captain Obvious
I have about 350 hosted galleries with long descriptions for the 123 program
right now in cumshot, hardcore and amateur niches

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:36 PM
From : Captain Obvious
the way it works is your surfers pay $1.23/month and you get $12.30 per join
(or $10 per join with cf)

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:36 PM
From : Captain Obvious
I wanted to tell you about a new program we have called the 123 Program

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:35 PM
From : Captain Obvious
Good I'm your account rep at Metal Cash

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:35 PM
To : Greenguy
yup

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:35 PM
From : Captain Obvious
Hi still around?

Maybe some webmasters make more then the program so what does that have to do with tea in china? They help you!! Don't be a dumbass.