I understand that they were trying to cover for themselves. I just don't get why they didn't simply tell him that they no longer want to be his registrar and that he has 72 hours to transfer his domains elsewhere. Then also report it to the proper authorities.

That just seems like a much better solution than trying to police it themselves. Technically, isn't it better to have the authorities determine what is legal and not a registrar?

About the same time as this started, I remember reading on a mainstream board that the registars don't seem to complain if you register a name like.
http://login_amazon.com

The argument about "feds requesting documents = bad, registrars requesting documents = okay" doesn't stand.
Feds request full 2257 documentation. That's full ID with name, address, age, social security number, birthdate, eye color - everything. Also signed documents showing the model's consent to be photographed for this particular set of pictures at this particular time and stating that she's over 18.

What DN requested was an ID with only a picture and birthdate showing. No privacy laws violated in the US (where the owner resides, the site is hosted, and where it was registered - so don't even start with the Canadian law thing), no federal laws violated as it was not a request for 2257 documentation, no laws violated whatsoever.

Also, a big difference between Feds/2257 and DN/id request is that when you register a name with DN, you agree to a contract giving them the power to ask for this information.
The feds never gave us the choice to agree or not agree - they simply slammed down the law and forced us to adhere to it.

its all semantics either way. DN did what they did and theres no changing that. You'll have people on both sides.

The biggest thing I think to remember is that now we know this can happen, no matter what registrar you are using, so now it is unanimous, EVERYBODY can close you down if your in adult heh heh


spaz

Carrie why do you have a hard on for Direct Nic and Buff?

How does it not stand? Are you saying since they didn't ask for every document it makes it okay? If you're going to investigate CP, atleast do it right and request all the documents. So are you saying you think registrars should ask for the ids of all the girls on your sites?

I don't think many people were upset with the legal side of things and whether it broke any privacy laws. I think people were upset that a registrar was playing police and holding a domain hostage.

Comparing the feds rights to the registrars rights to investigate a domain is kind of silly. The feds are the law, they arrest people, they are the ones that can put you in jail. A registrar is just a registrar. They sell a service and that's it. The feds do not need to give us a choice to agree or not agree, they just follow the laws they are given by the government that we elect.

While I agree with you that DN had a TOS that allows them to do it, I don't think it's bad that other adult webmasters know about this. There is nothing wrong with the spreading of information and opinions. Those who don't mind registrars policing their websites will continue to register with DirectNic and be happy. Those who are worried about it or don't want the hassle will register elsewhere.

I wouldn't clump every registrar into the same boat. They are the first registrar that I've ever seen demand documentation of models. While there are registrars like GoDaddy that have held domains for spam complaints, I don't think you can say that every registrar will do it until it happens.

It would be interesting to hear the opinions of other registrars and their stance on the issue.

That is exactly how it doesn't stand.
Because someone else tried to compare the two, and I was showing how blatantly different what the Feds would ask for and what DN asked for is. Thanks for proving my point and answering your own question. :)
I never said it was bad, or there was anything wrong with it. So this one confuses me... but I agree with you. |thumb

With the number of times you've already tried to get people over to your board in this thread, I'm surprised you're even still here to see this.

Why - because you disagree with it? Too bad. The argument stands.
|cry| Buck up little camper. Your registrar will save you (if they don't put you in their own private company prison first).

Still doesnt answer my question.

I see your helping me out on NetPond with the other though! Thanks!!!


Again why do you have a hard on for DirectNic and Buff?

I am not really saying they WILL i am saying if this stands and nobody really is able to make a stand against it, then they CAN

there is a huge margin between WILL and CAN but 'can' is a very dangerous thing


spaz