From Canada as Emma said you cannot get processing. Getting someone from the US is one way. The other way is similar but going thru Europe. Again not easy but you can do it on your own without anyone but I have not done it. Mitch from NetBilling could likely set you up but again I haven't done it (Mitch told me he could do it for any Canadians).

Do NOT partner with someone just to get the site up and running. As already said it is better to wait. Actually you should not "Partner" with anyone. The only thing I would consider doing is adding your site under an existing program. Typically that program would take 30% of the money rather than the 15% ccbill takes. Typically. The only reason this is a good idea is if you have hosted galleries and materials that existing webmasters can add right away.

BV makes some good points. If you can wait it out and get processing them do it.

Youve come a long way to have started in November.

I stand by my original statement. I think you have to learn what works and make a few minor mistakes early on to figure out what to avoid.

A famous Penthouse photographer made the mistake of oursourcing his site to someone in this business.

Seveal years and several thousands of dollars later he found out that this person was full of shit. Not only where his design skill poor but he infrequently updated this site and the corker .... he had set up a CCBill account that allow him to divert signups to his own pocket.

In other words the photographer was getting ripped off big time!

This happened because of his limited knowledge in this field and the fact that there are more thieving fucks in this business than you could possibily imagine.

Im sure if asked this thief would tell you he was teaching the photographer a lesson and how it was a cheap lesson.

Hang in there. I think your on the right track.
Billing options... would you believe I used to have people mail me checks?

Ok I can't help myself. 1 "Help Me" Post from a pretty girl an there are two pages of replies, all with good advice. I can't help but think some are hopping for a blowjob if they meet up at a show. You see some young guy post up asking for help and he is lucky to get 1/2 a page of replies lol.

Now now... Robert from SilverCash helps those young guys every day... then again, that might be a blowjob thing too... lol

:D

Yep, dogs will sure run a bitch in heat.

Yep, both males and females will whore for personal gain.

Any gays here? Perhaps, some young guy asking for help will get two pages of replies.

Just to make sure! Any of you guys that I gave code to in the past, you don't owe me a blow job. Any of the gals can give the rewarding blow jobs to TPat or UW. A 'thank you' and seeing someone succeed is good enough for me.

I responded simply because I saw how far she has already gotten on her own.

Your theory would hold up better at the Zoo.

If Im trolling for a blowjob at the show. . .
I dont respond to board threads - I just break out that fur coat.

PS - Dont worry you dont owe me a blow job for this response either.

wow now timeout Jugg I remember a whole bunch of PM's going back and forth between the two of us a year or so ago and I never even hinted that I wanted a blow job from you or your wife as a reward :D

I have had girls besides my wife give me blowjobs with her blessings but that was for content and there's no way I could ever pass Teela off as a Mexican |huh

Come on now guys. lol I just thought it was funny and in fact I think it's cool cause this tread has a ton of good info in it. Hey I responded to, shit I responded to 2 posts. Not that I was looking for a BJ, just honestly thought I could help and I know most feel the same way. And yes I am still there with needing help. In fact T-pat is a great help to me an is the reason I bought some of my domains that now bring me steady traffic. NO T-PAT no blow job for you from me or the wife lol.

strickly oral, no ass tapping

TT reminds me of an old WM joke:

Q: How do you know when you're truly an adult webmaster?
A: When you see a pretty girl and your first thought is "I wonder how well she'll convert?"

Seriously though alot of good info here but I'd add to some of the contrary points.

For example Raven Riley, besides being sexy as hell, blewup like she did becasue of brilliant, constant marketing and tons of promo options by JayMan.

I think TT needs to assess what she wants to be. If she wants to be a star signing autographs she's gonna have to partner up and do it smartly and quick while she's fresh. Do what you know and what is relatively easy... making porn. Leave the tech and biz bullshit to the pros (defined as someone/company already making sig $$$). Always own everythig that is you. License it, don't sell it.... even to your own company.

If you want to just make some mad money and have some fun and see what happens then like what was said you have to at least get chargecard processing (hell I'll give the $750 for a piece of the action whithout thought :)),ccbill, tons of galleries and banners and go to work 85 hours a week (you gotta promote) run your site, and make porn, probably work on member interaction, and deal with bitchy affiliates. Either way you need a partner or employee (s) or sub-contractors to take some of the slack off. Maybe that's traffic development or site design. Constant tweaking shit everywhere. Oh yeah, you've gotta have investment money to front end.

A lot about porn seems to be about "fresh". You have it. I think you should continue to build your own traffic and memberships AND be contacting some of the solo girl programs to develop their interest. Use your present numbers to project future earnings, understand the math and begin some negotiations. It may take you a year to cut a deal or pick the sponsor you like. Invite offers to join a program now, there's a lot of solo girl aggregates out there. I'd be surprised if you haven't already received several PM's. Final advice, have a great lawyer, or a bad one that will do what you tell them. |santa|

well thats sort of true

I might have just read the post and went on about my business

but I thought she was hot and would convert decently
and she has a real fresh look and seems super nice
so I am sure her members would get a kick out of chatting with her

and I like promoting single girl sites
but as I said she has no promotional materials

if she had some galleries and took visa I would have put them in my database, maybe threw up a few text links, etc etc

of course I wouldn't mind starring at the top of her head for 20 Min's either but....|jester|

heh, thanks for all the advice guys, working on getting visa as we speak and a lawyer, my partner's uncle is both and us resident. so hopefully that makes the next step easier. im really curious to see if visa sales will make that big a difference in sales and getting affiliates

Just having Tommy signup and add your FHGs to his site will make a big difference.

can't wait to see :)

If you doubt the increase in having a visa. Next time your out with a small group of people have them all check and see how many Master Cards are being carried.

I carry one out of 5 and it is a paypal Mastercard.

I hope to see your uncle next week in Vegas. I assume he will be managing your affiliate program and I would enjoy discussing the marketing ideas he has for you. Youve come quite a way on your own but Im certain you realize its only just the begining.

Can you tell me how to get in touch with him at the show?

When do you think he will get other processors lined up for cascasding billing? And have you decided on NATS or MPA? Ill be looking forward to your FHG and freesites as well. You have a fresh look.

Let me know as I have some traffic ready to send your way.

Is Tommy's traffic really that good?

I am sorry Chop, I am gonna get that stuff done for you, its just been a busy week

Thank you Toby :D

Man, that has nothing to do with my stupid reply. Let your fingers do some walking with you have time and I will share some secrets with you. :D

You know that I know your traffic is golden and I am gratful for your support.

gonzo, no. for the time being we , that is myself and zero, will be running this, the contact in the US will be the agent for the legal and visa issues. hopefully this situation works out. but again, everything been trial and error so far, we will make it to a show as soon as we can, about the best thing we need right now is some time off or a working vacation, honestly cant wait for that. i dont know if its a canadian thing, but honestly i see more people here with mastercards.

Chop, you needed a tongue in cheek smiley. ;)

I only submit galleries a few times a month, mostly to other niche TGPs like my own, so I don't have a partner account with Tommy. When he was adding a Boobs category he posted here asking for boob galleries to get some initial links on the page. I sent a list of clean galleries. I had a noticable jump in sales from those galleries and Tommy was at the top of my referral stats for several weeks. Tommy's traffic rocks.

I wish you luck then.

Having someone that knows what to do with the Visa 3rd party processing is crucial. So many solo girls dont get this and I dont know why.

One of our models asked what was taking so long. "All you have to do is put up a CCBill link and your done."

If it were that easy youd see a lot more women on the web.

I hope your uncle knows a bit about 1st amendment law and such.
Thats the only plus I see in this arrangement.

No need to waste time and be curious about that, it's a FACT, move on from there.

It makes a big difference.

god dammit, id kick my computer if i haddnt taken the panels off. how long before ccbill accepts canada as a valid country, us eskimos need to process as well.

look into Verotel...;-)

Can you run an affilate program with Verotel. Or a better question - will affiliates promote programs using Verotel?

I just posed it because I have a canuck that went to them after the other shady Canada cc processor fled... Personal experience I could not tell ya. I signed up under it but it is not a primary focus of mine...

None that are worth a sqwat and not even for free hookers |huh

Who is the company ZERO X MEDIA LLC that owns your content and is located in Nevada? Why can't they get Visa thru CCBill?

bv, thats ours, we bought that a year ago when we started, figuring that was the solution, but ccbill has told us we need US id, and we are canadians. hence the problem

You need to talk with Net Billing or join a program. I will talk with Mitch in Vegas here, he's the guy you need. Otherwise you need to join an affiliate program that is established. Not an easy thing to do but those are the options.

how about using verotel pro and NATS combo? i've heard thats a decent option

Teela contact me on ICQ. Where are you from? ICQ 46278228

dave, we are from vancouver , canada.

I was going to offer my assistance to you if you hit me up on ICQ.

I'm coming to Vancouver in a few weeks.

I own Platinum Bucks, I can give you some advice on your quest.

ICQ 46278228

I'm also a fellow Canadian, from Toronto.

Teela, if I were you I would Definitely hit Dave up. He knows his shit and runs a huge program.

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