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I think I have waited long enough for something worthwhile to happen with this and to date I have not made a sale and to be honest I don't expect to because this is not an impulse purchase and like Simon I don't think the tracking is anywhere near long enough.

I'm busy today but when I return that top spot banner is getting pulled in favor of something that will sell.

Still waiting for 2 months now. Stuff has been setup, but not activated yet. |yawn|

People do not buy $200 items on impulse on the internet. They will look around for comparable devices & better prices at this dollar level. That's why a return tracking mechanism is needed. |huh

Yeah, and the "Coming in May" Rental/Unlimited/Free is a definite sales killer. |catfight| |angry|

Why would someone sent traffic to the site when they are telling surfers pssst: come back later for a better deal. |whisper|

That is really fucked up when there is no return tracking. |club|

Anyone Sold A Real Touch Yet
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=953893

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Originally Posted by Simon (Post 479894)

Well, I got my AEBN newsletter, and now we hear that the Paris Hilton video has been encoded for RealTouch and of course we're being asked to promote that, but there has still been no announcement of a longer tracking period (cookies which take longer to expire, etc) or any other *real* improvements or enhancements which are of benefit to the affiliates marketing this device.

(There are now hosted banners and page peel ads...which are useless as long as the traffic is not converting as fast as the cookies are expiring.)

Worse - if you go to the RealTouch site now, you can see a box on the lower left which is surely killing most sales right now! It pretty much tells the surfers you send to RealTouch that they should *wait* until May before spending any money on this product. The text tells the surfer that 7-day rentals, unlimited rentals, and 'free' usage without needing to rent a video are coming in May.

Weird - in the latest AEBN newsletter there is a mention of something that I hope is just about the changes in video rentals regarding the RealTouch but I'll put the text below so you can see why my first thought was "What the fuck? They're going to rent these machines to people and then take them back and clean them up?" ...but I'm sure I must be wrong about that one. :D

From the newsletter:

I've built pages and sites to promote RealTouch and wanted to do more but I can't justify sending traffic to a site which seems to be working at cross purposes to my efforts. That box with the "wait until May" text was what caused me to deactivate my links to RealTouch until we see some real improvements...like at least a 6-month cookie to start with.

Just to see how things are going for others... has anyone who is promoting this gotten their first sale of a RealTouch device yet?

Or anyone have another viewpoint on this?

|huh

I understand why you'd feel like that's a sales killer, but in all honesty, we've seen conversions go up since we implemented the 'coming soon" news bits. Cookies have also shown a marked increase on conversions for most affiliates, though given the price point and learning curve, it's still a slow sell.

I can totally see where the term "rental" trips your squick factor - but we're talking about the movies themselves, silly! I can't even imagine renting the devices *shudder* Gross. Basically - we've been taking user feedback all along, and the one thing we kept hearing over and over again was users wanted an option to reconsume content over a period of time, or to have a sense of ownership. So that's what we are providing them - content rentals. There are two options here - a proscribed period rental (7 days) in which he can experience the movie however many times he chooses, or an indefinite rental in which the movie remains his to experience at will always.

Please always feel free to hit me up if something is unclear - that's why we're here! - and sometimes, I don't get to the boards that often, with all the other stuff going on in a day.

The return tracking issue still doesn't seem to be addressed? |whisper|

Or did I miss understanding something in the answer? |huh

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Originally Posted by tickler (Post 480015)

The return tracking issue still doesn't seem to be addressed? |whisper|

Or did I miss understanding something in the answer? |huh

I'm not sure I know which question I missed?

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Originally Posted by LizAEBN (Post 480027)

I'm not sure I know which question I missed?

Three people in a row asked the same thing about return tracking. |whisper|

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Originally Posted by Simon (Post 479894)

.... but there has still been no announcement of a longer tracking period (cookies which take longer to expire, etc) or any other *real* improvements or enhancements which are of benefit to the affiliates marketing this device.

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Originally Posted by bluebrit (Post 479925)

... this is not an impulse purchase and like Simon I don't think the tracking is anywhere near long enough.

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Originally Posted by tickler (Post 479926)

.... That's why a return tracking mechanism is needed.

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Originally Posted by tickler (Post 480032)

Three people in a row asked the same thing about return tracking. |whisper|

We have implemented cookie tracking, and will continue to work with various settings to determine the optimal length for the tracking, that best serves our webmasters but doesn't cannibalise other webmasters.

Currently, we have a 30-day cookie in place - and we have seen a pretty solid uptick for webmasters as a result. All of our reps are constantly taking feedback, too, and submitting for review on how to best optimist the program to meet the needs of our affilaites -- so please make sure that you let your individual reps know what you would find helpful.

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We have implemented cookie tracking, and will continue to work with various settings to determine the optimal length for the tracking, that best serves our webmasters but doesn't cannibalise other webmasters.

A moment for clarification please. I'm not sure at all what you mean by the phrase in bold above since existing cookies are *overwritten* by the next cookie. So the minimum of 6-month cookie that affiliates are telling AEBN are needed for selling higher ticket items are only going to last those six months *if* the surfer never clicks a link on a website where another webmaster is promoting RealTouch. That new cookie would replace the existing cookie and the latest webmaster would get credit for that sale anyway.

The only kind of cannibalization that would really occur is that AEBN would wind up having its own "no cookie" sales reduced because it would be paying the affiliate who originally sent them that surfer (more than 30-days ago) ... as it *should* be doing right now.

Affiliates know the only reason for short cookies is so that the sponsor does not have to pay the affiliate past a certain point. And most affiliates are getting really tired of sponsors who take their traffic and then wind up not paying them when the surfer finally decides to buy.

I know you always try to help, Liz... but I really hope AEBN gets on this Clue Train before it leaves the station.

:)

how is everyone doing today i am new on here an trying to get the feel for things

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Originally Posted by ppo_tommy (Post 481336)

how is everyone doing today i am new on here an trying to get the feel for things

Someone needs to fine tune their bot.

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 481349)

Someone needs to fine tune their bot.

yea sorry about that. He was suppose to be posting at the zoo. Fed him the wrong url today. |lol|

(i kid. That is not my bot! Mine just spits segmentation fault.) ;)

Hi

I have just made my first theatre at AEBN, anyone know if we can host them off our own sites, or can we only send traffic through our links?

The AEBN Theater is MASSIVE - I don't think you want to host it on your servers, even if you could :)

You just link to it - but you can also set up a CNAME so that it looks like it's on your domain:
http://movies.link-o-rama.com/

lol, I rightfully feel stupid! The CNAME is what I was after, I will insert a couple of matchsticks and I might see it this time!

Thanks