|
Some sponsors starts to offer payouts through payoneer.com
|
This has been posted in our inbox.
Quote:
|
imo the only thing that can save our money is to stay put and trust that our money is safe and were gonna get it, if all the sponsors run and never go back and us webmasters do the same, then there done IMO & we may never get anything or maybe half of the card holders will get there's
I think chris lost a ton on the movie thing, and had to use our money to get him out of trouble, now he is prolly been rounding up some investors to invest in epass to give our money back... and/or he is prolly working out the details to pay back a mega loan to get epass back in action, and when your talking that much money it takes days and days of meetings if he can pull it off and I can go get my cash out I will leave 20.00 in my account to show that I am still a customer, if you dont trust him with that then dont close your account all of us should show that if he pays out, the adult net biz will still use there service, cause we mostly all love epass, and it makes our life a little less of a hassle... |
As an affiliate payment option they are dead , granted the Visa side isn't even needed to make affiliate payments to the wallet and you can safely transfer form the wallet to your bank , credit card. However finance is all about faith and it seems that ePassporte have used/lost that. Several affiliate programs are opting out and no longer offer ePassporte as an option.
Payoneer is already stepping into the gap and I will be looking at that option. if the problem with ePassporte were fixable it would be fixed by now. |
Quote:
1) If you want to use their service to pay affiliates they don't have a published fee schedule, instead you have to contact them with your details and a rep will talk to you. Or in other words, they work out the maximum they can screw you for on a case by case basis. Not very encouraging. 2) If you are the person receiving funds, and you want to find out how much it will cost you in advance of signing up, you cannot. Their FAQ states: Quote:
All I can say from that is "Come back ePassporte, all is forgiven"! |
Quote:
If ePassporte do come back, affiliates who signed up for those programmes to use ePassporte will simply drop them and go elsewhere. And with an increasing number of WMs using ePassporte there will be a less new WMs signing up for their program. And even if ePassporte is a dead duck, a lot of WMs are expecting them to come back, so will leave those sponsors anyway. So expect those sponsors who drop ePassporte to appear in the "Cemetery of Sponsors" thread in the near future! |
The threads at the zoo seem to indicate that you would have to have a different card for each sponsor, meaning more fees, smaller balances per card.
I don't think they have the P2P transfers either. |
payoneer.com is not a very good option, paypal would be better. I'm not sure why affiliates don't use paypal, i mean they can't use paypal to cell subscriptions but paying to your affiliates is not a problem, there are few programs that do it already
since the epass-visa issue is not solved yet it probably won't, maybe they should go for a new deal instead - mastercard? however a lot of sponsors are dropping the epass as an option which i think this is not very good, I still prefer epass as payment option as i can transfer the money from my wallet to my own debit card. A lot of european webmasters may feel the same. The other payment options are not very good when based in europe - checks take ages to cash into your account and you have to pay 10 euro/pounds(imagine what's left from 50$) and you can't even cash in a check if the amount is less than 100$ (50$ is 30 pounds or 35 euro which is way below the minimum). The wire is also not a good option as it costs around 20-50$ and the minimum amount is very high(500$ for some sponsors) |
Quote:
Seriously though, PayPal don't like it, even just to pay affiliates, so you have to keep real quiet about it and hope word of mouth gets round. |
Epassporte is asking for verification, wanting copies of my driver's licence and other stuff before I can use the service again.
I'm wondering, should I bother? There's something disconcerting about sending off a scanned copy of my ID, especially when the whole thing is up in the air. Did anyone else get this request? What do you think I should do? Verify and then wait? Or just wait, cross my fingers that it will be fixed and THEN verify? Perhaps my question to Epassporte is: does getting your Visa status back require webmasters to show they're not money launderers? |
Quote:
My problem with it is that they are demanding things that I do not have, so I cannot oblige. |
Quote:
Do they really think I will give them access to one of my credit cards(including CSV), when the current one is messed up? |crazy| |
post 2000, neat!
|
asking for photo id is normal, paypal and others do the same if you reach certain amount in six months. however asking all users like that with no explanation just after the mess up is a huge mistake...
|
Looks like they paid the phone bill for the call center.
Mighty professional! |
And so...this story continues.....|headbang|
|
I would so give up on epassporte! Why he's not in jail is completely beyond my comprehension
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
I just want to know the angel so I can pull this shit next! |bananna| |
Quote:
|
Quote:
I Know one person personally you owe four grand to. When are you going to pay him? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
It's right up there with their emails. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. Madoff really fucked up or he wouldn't have been doing a day behind bars LOL |bananna| |
Quote:
The point I was making is: - It is not ePassporte who are keeping other people's money. Always read a thread fully before replying to it, because people will assume that you know the facts and are saying what you believe based on what is actually happening. And your comments are of the same school as that Middle Eastern country (forget which) that hit the headlines last year when a woman was raped, the courts agreed with her version of the events, but still jailed her for having sex out of wedlock. |
Quote:
This is really all that matters. |
this is the kind of things that get me through these moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeKV2UYq1Q
|
Quote:
For a start, as I said - EPASSPORTE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE STOPPING PAYMENTS. Secondly, even though you have not read the posts you are commenting on, I cannot see how anyone can assume that ePassporte would take this action themselves, it is crippling their own business, and whatever the outcome they are going to loose millions over it. Thirdly, your comments about Madoff are insane, there is no similarity. You might just as well compare ePassporte with the Catholic Church for all the sense there is in comparing them with Madoff (but I think you have made it possible for them to recoup some of their losses by suing you for liable - well done). And incidentally, I have no love for the guy who runs ePassporte, as I said, he is an asshole. I would also be happy to pay good money to spend five minutes kicking shit out of him, but over other things, not this (which is hurting me badly, but at least I have the sense to read the facts before commenting on the situation). |
Quote:
Excuses for people not being paid are only as pathetic as those people backing them up (LIKE YOURSELF). How can a middle man walk the streets without giving the money that's owed to the people he's dealing with. I've done time in prison and etc.a nd dealt with the crips and bloods and the east coast mobs. I can't imagine such a thing. Please let me torture this loser! |
Quote:
If you are walking down the road and some idiot in a car spins out of control, runs into you, and throws you clean through a shop window. You think the driver should get off scott free, but you should go to jail for vandalism, because you smashed the shop window when the car threw you through it??? Your last post can be summarised as "I don't care who is guilty, and I am happy to let the real guilty person get off free, provided I am allowed to blame one of the victims and torture them". I really hope you are making the mistake of posting while drunk or stoned, because I'd hate to have to believe that any human being would think as you think, when sober. |
Quote:
You should probably get some sleep and I won't hold it against you we can pick this up again when we are both on the same wave length. |
After I logged into my account the other day, I got a message, so logged back in to see my account was on hold and I have to send them copies of my ID etc.
I'm bamboozled by this, is this some attempt to hold the funds of epassporte account holders? I don't have much in my account wallet and even less on my visa card, but why do I have to send them copies of my ID? I'm not even sure I trust sending them that data, I'll probably let them keep the measly $100 there is in the wallet. |
Quote:
|
Sorry, just realised that the last sentence on my previous post sounded insulting, it was not meant that way.
|
Quote:
Being half sober now (with hangover), I still don't think epass is one of the victims. Maybe they are and that's why there are no legal actions against them. I do admit that I always found them to be pretty incompetent and thus always paid the 3 bucks to have even my minimum payments withdrawn from them immediately. I had so many problems with them in the past just simply withdrawing to my own US bank account that something major (even if it hadn't been this) seemed almost inevitable to me. I don't even see how he can start back up without paying back that money whether it's his fault or not, or having it unfrozen if that is the actual case. I love they way they always tell you, your money is safe. Great! But it's not in my hands. Why don't you let me have it so I can keep it safe myself LOL. Again not me personally. I don't think I even lost a dollar like I said, but I certainly won't use them to receive payments ever again. They are complete screw ups in my eyes. |
if they back and work again I will use them again,
because this the best way for me to get small payment's from eg. 10 sponsor's - from $35 to $100 and then immediately take cash at ATM cashing check in europe for such low amount is problem - cost more money and more time |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
The problem is US federal banking law, which is a mess to put it mildly. There are corrupt African states run by incompetent military juntas who have better banking systems that the US. An when things go tits up, it takes them ages to sort things out. It is costing the US a fortune, because no one likes to do business with American companies, not because they don't like the companies, but because it is such a pain to exchange money for services/goods. Part of the reason your economy has still not fully recovered from the crash is down to this. As an example, the only US companies I currently use are sponsors (because there are very few non US ones), eBay/PayPal (because they have an European division which is separate from the American division, so I do not have to deal with US laws), and ePassporte (which has just confirmed my "never use US companies" rule). For things like hosting, payment processing, affiliate account management, distribution, advertising, etc - for which there are plenty of good US companies I can use - I always use European companies because of the shit problems of dealing with US banking laws. This is also why ePassporte got so big so quickly. No country likes dealing with US banks, simply because the law on your side of the planet is so unfit for purpose that it makes life difficult for everyone. And when a non US bank does deal with a US bank they charge their clients high. For example to cash a non British cheque from any country other than the US costs me up to about the equivalent of a dollar and a half. To cash a US cheque costs me nearly the equivalent of 20 dollars, over ten times as much! And baring in mind that some sponsors send me a cheque when the amount goes over $50, that means I have to give nearly half my money to the bank (one sponsor even sends out cheques for $35). So going via ePassporte and using ATM to withdraw is the only sensible way to go if you do not live in the US. Since the US now only accounts for less than a third of English Language business on the 'net, any sponsor who does not offer ePassporte is throwing away two thirds of their business, no sane company would do that! So, assuming this matter does get cleared up, eP is here to stay, at least until someone starts a viable alternative. |
Quote:
Does security have anything to do with US Banking problems? I mean I like the idea my money is insured for up to a quarter million or do all countries do that (or at least in Europe)? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Quote:
I have also been told (by a bank manager) that the US banking system itself is very backward compared with most European countries, so that the problems are compounded by the fact that American banks simply do not have as high a level of technology as Europe. I would guess that the current security fears have made things even worse, and the eP problems may (as artwilliams assumes) be wholly or partly triggered by this. But all countries have the same problem, so the US government has no excuse for being worse than elsewhere. It is also possible that the crash scared more useless regulations into being (but...ditto). However the shit state of US banking laws is not a new thing, it predates the twin towers attack, I have been having problems for about 20 years, and when I started working internationally it was already very much an old story. Worryingly, since so many major banking transactions are beginning to rely on Broadband, and America lags far behind Europe in broadband availability, things are probably going to get worse. In short, George W. had already mortgaged the US's ass to Asia before the crash, now things are even worse. And if the banking system does not pull itself out of the past and get with the program, America will never be able to get enough money in to pay off it's foreign debts. The result will be galloping inflation, low wages, and mass unemployment. So if Mr Ob does not do something pretty drastic pretty quick, the Mexican border will soon be patrolled by Mexican soldiers, desperately trying to stop US citizens sneaking into Mexico looking for work! |skyfall| |
Quote:
Personally I think our entire country is a whorehouse that everyone wants to invade and rape and give nothing back to P.S. I also feel this way about the successful famous people here who actually owe this country something due to their success. They seem to be more concerned with PR and doing things for banana republics than helping out and fixing our own problems here. |
| All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:39 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© Greenguy Marketing Inc