fucking question... :)
i think "no" and voted for second variant

Because this is a very search engines related business, I will base many things on what Google (Yahoo, MSN) likes & doesn't like.

I can't find serious difference between "BlaBla Porn" and "Porn" in recips table. Nobody click on text recips. The poll results show that many webmasters on this board agree with my point.

I think also "NO" and I voted for this. And I got to say that no one else will submit free sites to GG-LLs if the problem between Kit and GG will not be solved. I submitted in this year about 400 free sites, about 250 was approved by penisbot and only ~70 by GG-LLs.

GG`s approved free sites given me traffic for about 2 month. Free Sites approved from penisbot are still working for me and got a lot of sign ups.

A question, where is the reason to submit sites to GG and give him a place in my recip-table? Think about this. Live in peace and let the people submit to you because without this people you are nothing.

"dont shit in your own well" ;)

p.s. sorry for new registration, i`m reading gg board since 2006. you can ban me, if my post does not like you. its IMHO ;)

Freesites already very spammy. Only TGP galleries is more spammy. Because of texts copying from one freesite to other. Not only recipe tables, but also all other texts.

Short $Keyword in reciprocal text is less spammy than long "MyLinkSite Free $Keyword Links".

Around one year ago I said: When Google decide that average freesite is a piece of spam, link sites business will ends. Looks like Google started to think so in 2007. I think so Not because I lost #1 "porn" position. Almost all link sites have been decreased in their SE rankings during this year.

Kit what would you think of a straight link to your index?Do it old school. Wouldn't that be the least spammy method?

I think it's just an another stupid reason for decline.
If you don't stop decline free sites with Penisbot's recips today, tomorrow you'll make free sites for LOR by yourself imho. "Extreme?"
PS Stop living your life based on what you THINK who you are. |king|
You are wrong.
Sorry for my English, but I think you has understood that I wished to tell.

What for you ask opinion of others if any more do not accept sites with these recips?

It should, any other way and its blind link, keyword spam that screws everyone

Now that's accurate enough.

But if you really believe this kit, you should reward webmasters who write unique changing text links. It's well known that it's easy for google to spot thousands of identical text links, and devalue them.

Your plan will only bring you a small short term advantage, then lead to an even faster and further collapse in the future.

But, about the immediate problem - How do you feel, kit, about people putting an unlinked "penisbot" in the text of the recip, so that it's not blind? Will your reviewers accept that? (excuse me if this has already been asked and answered)

I'd like to know too, please :)

Me too! AMF, I just submitted a site and because of this thread included an unlinked "penisbot" inthe recip.

Both LOR and Penisbot have provided me with consistant quality traffic...hope this all gets worked out soon.

I hope everything gets worked out... i have really enjoyed traffic from LOR, Penisbot and WetPlace

Thank you both for accepting my freesites

Kit doesn't seem to mind that at all. This is from his first post in this thread:
He isn't trying to make things more difficult on submitters. Also, his image based recips should fine to use since the images say Penisbot on them.

I don't think it's a blind link at all. I'm just a submitter though, and I just follow the rules of each LL's I submit to. |thumb

My original plan was just to swap out GG's recip so that it wouldn't be on the same table as PenisBot because the simplest solution is usually the best one.

However, after reading this thread I realized that all sorts of other link list owners are probably in some sort of a kafuffle about this now and may be declining for having PenisBot's recip on the same table as their own which is just plain stupid IMO.

Doing a little bit of Google searching I noticed that Penisbot comes up pretty regularly for all sorts of adult terms, but many of the other LL's I submit to did not show up even by the 20th SERP.

Anyway, my opinion for what it's worth is that the link is not at all blind, the surfer is going to get 'porn' regardless of which link they click on even in GG's nightmare scenario.

GG: I don't think that only linklist owners and reviewers are affected by this issue so that's why people with few posts are coming out to express their opinions and you shouldn't shit on them because of how many posts they have. I have been reading this board since 2005 and just because I only started posting recently shouldn't mean my opinion doesn't count.

Kit & GG:
If the only solution we can come to for now is an unlinked PenisBot please just tell us that's it. |peace|

I just updated the PenisBot recips Kit's way and to do it over again once will be enough time spent without the fear that I will have to re-do a third, fourth, fifth time until a permanent solution is agreed upon.

I want both your traffic |bow|

a bit late for me to answer this, but yep i see it as a blind link,i wanna say more about it, but i kow it will end in dutch chinese and i am running out of time now, no linksite name means blind to me.

This is very acceptable links: PenisBot's Porn

You think, thousands of such links "MyLinkList Free Porn Links" is not identical text links? The longer identical text patterns is more spammy.

I have my own views on this and I will try and abide by what rules are set forth for each individual LL - I just want to know why people are being recruited in to "testify" on this thread..I mean who the fuck is Nataly C and Adult Dream - both Dec 2007 registrants with 1 and 2 posts (all in this thread) I mean c'mon now. Next it will turn into "my mom will kick your moms ass"..neener neener neener..why cant everyone just agree to disagree on certain points. - My suggestion is if you cant make certain LL owners happy with one type of recip table, then post the two on seperate sites and call it good.

I think it's pretty much exactly the same. The length of the text doesn't matter, it's the fact that it's easy for google to see that thousands of identical strings of text are being used as the anchor text.

That indicates an un-natural linking pattern, one that we know google is watching.

I'm not saying there is an easy solution, just that insisting that everyone use the exact same links all the time is a dead end. And you should figure out a way to get more variety in the anchor text of recips.

That's such a moronic statement that I'm not even going to address it. No one gets banned because of their opinion.

Thank you very much, person with 2 posts that registered yesterday |thumb

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Please stop thinking this is a "greenguy vs kit" problem - if you read thru the entire thread, you'll see where I say that I've seen other LL's doing this as well. You'll also see where other people have seen the same thing & even wondered when this topic would come up.

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Little known fact: I have a shitload of rules that I want to put into place that all BENEFIT the submitter, but I was sorta talked out of it because whatever I do effects other Link Lists. This can be proved by looking at the last time I changed my rules & the mess that caused.

I may put these rules into place just to prove once & for all that I do actually care about my submitters. Trust me, the news rules will let submitters bend & even break what Free Site submitters have been told are absolute No-No's due to a few bad apples.

Kit - one question: Is this recip table OK with you?
http://www.greenguysboard.com/blindrecips.html

I'm not Kit, but I want to say my opinion. The recip table in your example is too extreme. You use the same keywords for all linklists. If you use different keywords then it's ok.

I personally think that it's impossible to have recips without blind links. The domain says nothing to surfers, it's name is already blind link. Sometimes the domain is so long that you can't put it into the recip table.

If you're trying to imrove this business then you'd better think about the structure of freesites. Surfers don't need warning page, they don't read warning messages.

Why is that extreme? That's 16 versions of Kit's recip. 1 is ok, but 16 isn't?

How many are ok? 4? 8? 12?

Am I getting my point across at all?

One recip is "Cumshot Porn", another one is "Sucking sluts"... I'm sure that the most part of linklist owners would be happy if webmasters use different keywords for their category recips each time.