If you redirect all traffic to your sponsor you will get 100% of signups from this redirect :)

Surfers don't like and don't need warning page. If we want to make good sites for surfers then we must forget about this page.

This example is too extreme and you don't accept freesites.

Am I right to assume the following.

1) Link lists that that want to use key words in their recipes instead of their domain name or name of site, will still accept sites from submitters if they add their site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. ( Kit said o.k. to this I think)


So the question is,
The link lists which think the links are blind, do you still feel the links are blind if the submitters adds the site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. Will you still reject our sites if we do every thing in 1?

Kind regards Sat

"Click Here To See Her Suck Cock" is blind but when put under a banner it becomes part of the banner and is not blind. As Greenie once said, it's the intent of the ad space and even a first time computer user will recognize a recip table as a box full of clickable links where they can hopefully get porn. I like this recip table |thumb

Then, please, let us now all reasons how to get banned at LOR ?

Maybe this will help me to understand what criteria i didn't pass!
Untill this moment you are the only one, who banned webmaster (me) because of his own oppinion (question, answer) , even it is stypid or fullish!

... and my suggestions - remove button "apeal" from the usefullsripts, it is not working! I tried to write e-mails , but didn't receive any answers!
It is a dirty trick to give a hope for webmaster , when actually he is wasting his time

I don't recruited anybody to help me push my opinion. ;-)

I agree with you. Natural linking way suppose more freedom for the free site makers. We recommend to use the official reciprocal links, but do not order to use ONLY them.

The thing we'll strong require to be approved is inclusion "Porn" word in link texts or titles.

If you have a very good site, it will be accepted even with custom recips, but word "Porn" must be used in category and index link in any case.

You're off topic now, but in your case, my guess would be Poor Grammar or Spelling Errors. If you really want to know, send me a PM with your domain & I'll look them up on the blacklist & send you a vailid reason for each one that I added. I'll do it in public if you want as well.

Oddly enough, I can say that without using the winking smiley.

2 months ago, the example I started this thread with would be too extreme.

And you never answered my question? If Kit's recip is OK, how many copies of it out of the 16 recips on that free site are ok? 2? 4? 8? 12?

With most recip links, the only difference is the site's name.

This is from your site/rejection email, correct?:

http://www.best-wet-pussy.com/sample/
If I were the surfer I know where I'd be clicking ;)

I agree, it was only used to explain that surfers do read what is written on the warning page and nothing more.

The rest of the comments/responses of freesite structure would be better off in its own thread/discussion.

what if it were a text recip like the rest of them, sans the design colors and border?

Yes I do.... just not from you!

DD

Umm...the link that says "Enter this Pornsite"? |banghead|

As people seem to be getting a bit tense with this thread, thought I'd throw in a "Merry Christmas" to everyone!

As for my site, Debauchery, it's fine with me if folks put the "Debauchery.com" in there if they wish. I'm pretty laid back as far as what I accept and the recips that people use. I even offer a recip, and have for a while now, that just links to my root using the anchor text "Free Porn Videos" with non-hyperlinked text that says "Debauchery.com"

DangerDave, I don't want and don't have enaugh time to argue with you. I respect you as webmaster, but your site is not linklist for me. 0-3 freesites a day is nothing. Your opinion is your opinion, my opinion is my opinion. Let's stay with our opinions and there is no sence to argue here.

WTF are you talking about? Your opinion can't be stupid. Your opinion is just one of the opinions.

I answered your question, probably you didn't read it. I told you that it looks good if webmaster uses different keywords for each linklist. It's so easy to find 2, 4, 8, 16 different keywords for each linklist in any niche. I'm sure that 99% of linklist owners will accept these freesites. You can rotate these keywords, it'e even better for webmaster and linklist owners - more SE traffic.

I've answered you already, but I want to add something. Why do you think that 48% of your signups comes from warning page? I think that in 90% of cases surfers just can't find the ENTER link.

1st point of entry and 1st chance to communicate with the surfer.
Nothing more, this is off topic.

Always good to have an expert on what is and what isn't a linklist.

Have you ever even seen one of JustRobert's freesites? Clean and easy to navigate. That may be one reason why he can submit to linklists that you can't submit to.

Just noticed new rule at link-o-rama, if I understand it right Greenie has his own opinion on what is blind links in recips and this poll and thread doesn't matter anything for him :)

Sure are, its obvious

Just noticed....a total lack of grammar

Seeing as I am rejecting sites because I do think it is a blind link, I thought it'd be best to put it in the rules.

Would you rather me not discuss topics like this?

It would be important if you wouldn't understand me. But in this situation it's offtopic.

I like the discussion. But I don't like the fact that you ignore the opinions of other people if these opinions are opposit to your one.

This thread was directed at Link List Owners & Reviewers. Are you a link list owner or reviewer?

Neverending topic of |bullshit|

My site is not a democracy - I make the rules.

But you seem to think that it's stupid for me to discuss things that I don't agree with. For fuck sakes, I opened a thread so that everyone could discuss the situation. Maybe next time I'll just put the rule in place & when I'm asked about it, I'll just ignore the poster or email & no one will be able to talk about it.

Your links are so blind you can't even see them.

LINGER LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: I started writing this post even before GG made his last two posts. Yes, I am that slow. I linger longer. ;)
SK - I agree with a couple of the points you've made in this thread (free site structure, the extremeness GG's recip table example, etc), but I think this thread was intended to be a discussion of the recip in question, not a "see if you can change my mind" thread. Therefore I don't feel that we can say that he's ignoring other peoples' opinions. Let's face it, he didn't have to bring it up for public debate. As far as the numbers in the poll are concerned - I'd bet if we could see who voted for what, neither of us would recognize most of the names who voted 'No' and it's fairly obvious that most of them didn't bother to post their full opinion on the matter.

My vote remains a No, but that's because I feel the same way about the subject as GG. In other words, somebody would have to make one hell of an argument for me to change my mind. Simply stating that one feels contrary doesn't make for much a debate.

The following is to clarify my stance and not an attempt at convincing others one way or the other. I know that I'm in the minority.

For me, there are few text links that I consider blind. A true blind link to me is one that appears to intentionally attempt to conceal or lie about the link's destination. Nearly the only time I reject something as blind, it's due to an image linked directly to a paysite or a thumb-like banner. If the average surfer would click on the image and expect to see its full-size counterpart (without reading the text around the image), I consider it blind. Text is different. And as long as a surfer can mouseover the text to see the destination, I usually won't take issue.

What do I think about the value and productivity of text links which most would consider blind? I'm betting that they're absolute shit if linked to a paysite. I wouldn't expect to see sales created by a stand-alone text link which read "Moms Fucking". As far as blind recips, I honestly wouldn't know if there'd be a difference in productivity between Porn and PenisBot Porn.

Now, a long time ago I temporarily changed my recips for WhoringWives.com so that instead of reading Whoring Wives, they read Free Porno. I didn't do it for SE reasons like Kit. I'm simply not that learned in the SE arena. I did it because I felt more surfers would click on Free Porno than on Whoring Wives. Let's face it, it's not a great name for a general categorized link list. Plus, I didn't see how it was much different than the using Cunt Masters on the recips for youngsmut.com. Did my recip get clicked more often? I don't know. But I did start getting Google search hits for the phrase free porno. :D I changed them back months ago because I felt I would be better served by branding it with the site's true name: Maroon Man's Links o' Drama. I think some people still use my old Free Porno recips because when I update them on my end, I don't demand that the submitters use the new ones in their recip tables.

I know one thing. The most part of linklist owners will not change their recips. They will be upset when somebody will decline freesites because of their recips. I don't understand why to fight with each other when we could work together and help each other.

You have to remember that each link list has rules & if a rule is broken, the site is not listed.

Everyone remembers the "no hardcore on the warning page" debate from a couple of years ago where some recip links had hardcore images in them.

So then the question because: What rules should Link List owners let other Link List owners break with their recips?

Should I allow iFrames in them? Counters? Hotlinking? Links that open in a new window? I can go on & on & on.....

I'm not trying to fight with anyone - if a submitter had the word "porn" links on the main page with no other text around it, I'd reject it because it's a blind link. The fact that it's in with 15 other recips & was created by another Link List does not change the fact that it's a blind link in my eyes.

I'll help you out. If you need to change my recip to comply with someone's rules, then do it. I'm just not that picky. I'll leave it to the Greenguy's of the world to protect the naive surfers from the evils of blind links.

How's that? |huh

Oh, thank you :) , i think this one just maiden for you.

The most part of linklist owners would agree with you that iFrames are bad, but in this situation you're almost the only one who declines freesites for this reason.

How can you repeatedly read questions & then go off on a tangent? I didn't ask for your opinion on why I reject for iFrames.

I asked you a specific question: Since you think that I should allow what I consider blind links in recip codes on free sites, which other rules that I have in place should I also allow recip codes to break?

I like Iron Maiden :)

So do I |headbang|

Ok I just read all 5 pages |loony|

What hasn't been answered that I can find is if putting PenisBot unlinked still considered blind?

This is a really hard call for me. Penisbot and Linkorama are always at the top in my stats for sending traffic.

I don't think it's fair to put either one of them on a mirror page. But what else can I do?

Of course no one has a right to say how the rules should be at any LL as it's up to the owner of that LL to use what ever rules they want.

I just really think this thread is a conflict between two people my opinion which I'm entitled to.

So would Kit or Greenie have a problem with being listed on a mirror page?

|peace|

Who knows, Eddie, who knows...

You don't seem to have an opinion or a point to make, so why don't you simply shut the fuck up and crawl back into your little hole? No one is amused by your mindless posts.

There's no way a goddamn child like you had any legal right to agree to the COPA terms when joining this board.

oh, oh, oh... Angry mr.Useless...

No, I'm not angry, you moronic little twit. Your every idiotic post amuses me further and further. If you want to transform this thread into nothing more than me repeatedly humiliating you as a rebuke to your astounding immaturity and ignorance, go ahead - keep replying. I've honestly nothing better to do.

You know, I realize that there are some submitters and a lot of board lurkers who may not like me for the brash tone of my posts, but at least I never worry that I've given any reason for people to think of me as ignorant. Which is something you do with every post.

Nothing, I'm agree with your other recip rules.