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ecchi 2010-09-23 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 490978)
I'm sort of curious why the US banking is such a problem unless they are also that valuable?

If you mean to other countries: Because we do business with some US companies, and they usually have American bank accounts!

If you mean to the US: Because you buy foreign goods, go on foreign holidays, and send money abroad through other means (eg, American soldiers fighting abroad). You have to have as much money coming in as going out (preferably more coming in than going out) or you end up in serious financial shit, the Government has to "create" more money which leads to inflation, unemployment, etc.... You also need money coming in to pay off that huge national debt the idiot W. ran up while in office. Fail to do that, and America ends up like a bankrupt third world country!

Oh, US banking is very important indeed.

Charlie 2010-09-23 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 490986)
If you mean to other countries: Because we do business with some US companies, and they usually have American bank accounts!

If you mean to the US: Because you buy foreign goods, go on foreign holidays, and send money abroad through other means (eg, American soldiers fighting abroad). You have to have as much money coming in as going out (preferably more coming in than going out) or you end up in serious financial shit, the Government has to "create" more money which leads to inflation, unemployment, etc.... You also need money coming in to pay off that huge national debt the idiot W. ran up while in office. Fail to do that, and America ends up like a bankrupt third world country!

Oh, US banking is very important indeed.

Well, I already admitted we are a whorehouse, but I don't think you third world leeches would even exist if not for us and that goes for Europe too LOL!

And I'm not even talking about WW II LOL, I'm talking money!

Charlie 2010-09-23 06:57 PM

Here's for you immigrant fucks! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvMK...eature=related

ecchi 2010-09-23 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 490987)
Well, I already admitted we are a whorehouse, but I don't think you third world leeches would even exist if not for us

You suffer from the same problem as me, you are still living in the 1970's. Back then America was a great nation, but now it is Asia that is propping the USA up, not the other way round. At the moment your country owes countries like China so much money that if China says "jump" the USA has to ask "How high sir?" and then damn well jump. Fortunately China and India also make a lot of money from exporting to the US, so they don't want to rock the boat. But if the President goes all protectionist and starts bringing in trade levies or some such thing (which must look inviting in the current economical climate), or if he stops that aid you keep moaning about, then countries like China can retaliate by demanding that the loans get repaid, then it will be the 1930s all over again. (I don't think this will happen while Mr Ob is in power, but if he looses the next election and you get someone like Palin in, there is a serious risk she will get patriotic and protectionist, if that looks like happening, emigrate to Canada or Europe before it is too late!)

However the most imminent worry is over America's credit rating. At the moment it is good, but if it drops, you owe more money that Greece does, so the same thing will happen in America as is happening there, prices are going up, and salaries are going down. Serious poverty for most people, however not as bad as the above scenario (but there is a greater chance of it happening, even with a good President).

Charlie 2010-09-23 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 490995)
You suffer from the same problem as me, you are still living in the 1970's. Back then America was a great nation, but now it is Asia that is propping the USA up, not the other way round. At the moment your country owes countries like China so much money that if China says "jump" the USA has to ask "How high sir?" and then damn well jump. Fortunately China and India also make a lot of money from exporting to the US, so they don't want to rock the boat. But if the President goes all protectionist and starts bringing in trade levies or some such thing (which must look inviting in the current economical climate), or if he stops that aid you keep moaning about, then countries like China can retaliate by demanding that the loans get repaid, then it will be the 1930s all over again. (I don't think this will happen while Mr Ob is in power, but if he looses the next election and you get someone like Palin in, there is a serious risk she will get patriotic and protectionist, if that looks like happening, emigrate to Canada or Europe before it is too late!)

However the most imminent worry is over America's credit rating. At the moment it is good, but if it drops, you owe more money that Greece does, so the same thing will happen in America as is happening there, prices are going up, and salaries are going down. Serious poverty for most people, however not as bad as the above scenario (but there is a greater chance of it happening, even with a good President).

Again, then why are you dealing with us? I can do without Chink Lead in my baby products so what is the big fucking deal with our American Banks? You must love us for some reason in additiion to be so fucking jealous you can't handle it.

hashbury 2010-09-23 10:33 PM

Found this at the zoo

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies

Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com

ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services

twinkerbell 2010-09-23 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashbury (Post 491003)
Found this at the zoo

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies

Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com

ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services

pppfffff....and now our monies are gone...great magic there f@#!*&g EPASS! |banghead|

ecchi 2010-09-24 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 491002)
Again, then why are you dealing with us?

I answered that question a couple of posts back!!!!!!!

As I said the other day, read the whole thread before replying to it. If you just look at one post and reply without reading the rest of the thread you are bound to either ask what has already been answered, repeat what has already been said, or say something stupid. It is inconsiderate to all other users to simply use this forum to air your views without first reading those of others. Sure, some people will have widely different views to other people (such as you and I over ePassport's culpability), and everyone has the right to state their own views. But at least have the good manners and common decency to read other people's posts in the thread before adding your own.

Cleo 2010-09-24 07:47 AM

There is nothing to worry about. We are all going to get paid at the same time that iBill pays us.

http://www.anecdotage.com/pics/comicalali.jpg

Again noting to worry about your funds are safe.

Charlie 2010-09-24 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 491009)
I answered that question a couple of posts back!!!!!!!

As I said the other day, read the whole thread before replying to it. If you just look at one post and reply without reading the rest of the thread you are bound to either ask what has already been answered, repeat what has already been said, or say something stupid. It is inconsiderate to all other users to simply use this forum to air your views without first reading those of others. Sure, some people will have widely different views to other people (such as you and I over ePassport's culpability), and everyone has the right to state their own views. But at least have the good manners and common decency to read other people's posts in the thread before adding your own.

Not to get too personal, but just because you say something (long winded or not) doesn't make it a fact.

ecchi 2010-09-24 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 491020)
Not to get too personal, but just because you say something (long winded or not) doesn't make it a fact.

True, but irrelevant. When you ask a question and get an answer, there is no point in asking the same fucking question over and over again, even if you think the answer is wrong. Instead read the answer. If you don't agree with the answer, post to disagree with it if you like, BUT DON'T KEEP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION, that is just childish.

PhoneMistress 2010-09-24 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 491002)
... I can do without Chink Lead in my baby products so what is the big fucking deal with our American Banks?...

Did you say "Chink"? Please tell me that is a typo.

terry 2010-09-24 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoneMistress (Post 491027)
Did you say "Chink"? Please tell me that is a typo.



Doubt its a typo. He is referring to the lead paint in the countless products we use everyday.. or used to before we found out how dangerous it is to us. hahaha

Cleo 2010-09-24 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoneMistress (Post 491027)
Did you say "Chink"? Please tell me that is a typo.

We have gotten so politically correct that it has almost become incorrect. The other day I was called a racist on FaceBook because I called Bush a rich white man.

bluebrit 2010-09-24 10:19 AM

Just a FYI. I came across this on another forum while searching up to date information on the current epass mess from the latest links on google.

link

I just spoke to "St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank". This is what I got:

Bjorn: What seems to be the problem?
Nevis: We are working on it.

Bjorn: What seems to be the problem? (again)
Nevis: Your funds are safe.

Bjorn: Why are you avoiding the question?
Nevis: I'm not.

Bjorn: So what is the actual problem that you're working on?
Nevis: We're working on it.

Bjorn: Why can't I access my funds?
Nevis: We're working on it.

Bjorn: Where are the funds?
Nevis: We are not obliged to tell you that.

Bjorn: How can I get hold of my money?
Nevis: You can't but your funds are safe.

Nevis: We'll make statement and give more information on the 30th of Sept.
...

By this time I was furious and hanged up. Fucking Scammers.

By the way, anyone who is interested in taking legal action (when orif needed), please contact me by email or PM to register your interest. (after the press release on the 30th Sept). I've already heard from some who are interested.



Now I don't know what truth there is in the above but it does make sense that the bank will need a few days to issue a statement so I think we may have to wait until the 30th to find out what's going to happen.

In the meantime it's a waiting game and I am watching the latest links on google for any other new information regarding this.

cd34 2010-09-24 11:21 AM

Quote:


IMPORTANT MESSAGE REGARDING YOUR EPASSPORTE ACCOUNT

Dear ePassporte Account Holders,

St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank, without our prior knowledge, has turned off the ability for ePassporte to access or display Account Holders' Visa Card balances. This means that when you login to your ePassporte Account, you will only be able to see your Wallet balance. As a consequence, inquiries regarding your Visa Card balance must be directed to St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank. St Kitts Bank is responsible for all funds on Visa Cards. Their contact information is as follows:

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.

Central Street,
P.O. Box 343
Basseterre, St. Kitts, West Indies
Tel: (869) 465-2204 Mon - Thurs: 8 a.m. - 2 p.m. Fri: 8 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Fax: (869) 465-1050
Email: webmaster@sknanb.com
ePassporte will continue to provide support with regard to the funds in your Wallet. We kindly ask for your patience as we must verify Accounts and balances manually.

Thank You,

ePassporte Account Holder Services
stick a fork in them, they are done. Can't say I am surprised.

Greenguy 2010-09-24 11:28 AM

I just logged in & sure enough, my account is about $100 lighter :( I had $100 (or so) in there when this all happened. Since then, one sponsor did pay me about $50 - this money is still in there, which is actually a bright light, assuming that I can transfer that $50 over to my normal bank's checking account (which I do have set up in ePass)

I'm not real happy about the $100 I have to now hunt down, but if I can have money sent to ePass by sponsors that can't figure out how to cut checks & then transfer that money to my bank account, that'd still be worth it for me.

Cleo 2010-09-24 11:36 AM

That person who had around a quarter of a million in their account killed themselves.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=988829

Emerald 2010-09-24 12:01 PM

newest on the epassport saga
Source for this post:
https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm

To All SKNANB Visa Prepaid Cardholders

SKNANB is committed to adhering to Visa's stringent program requirements and maintaining the integrity of the global payment network. On instruction of SKNANB, on September 23rd, 2010, ePassporte's network access for cards issued by SKNANB was disabled. As a result, SKNANB prepaid cardholders will not be able to view their card balances through the ePassporte.com website.

SKNANB is actively working to restore, as soon as possible, SKNANB prepaid cardholders' ability to obtain information regarding their Visa card balances and to access Visa card funds. SKNANB prepaid cardholders can expect further communication from SKNANB on or before September 30th 2010.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding your SKNANB prepaid card, please contact SKNANB at vcprepaid@sknanb.com. In addition, a dedicated telephone line will be established shortly.

SKNANB thanks you for your continued patience.

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Limited

cd34 2010-09-24 12:22 PM

I get the feeling the conversation went something like:

Quote:

9/2 Chris Mallick, Epassporte: Hey, you had some wind yesterday. We can't access our accounts, we have a lot of people wondering, will the accounts be turned back on?
9/2 SKNANB, Yes, we had a hurricane yesterday or we would have shut you off on 9/1. Maybe.

9/10, CM, Epassporte: Are we going to get the money back?
9/10 SKNANB: Maybe. Check back next week.

9/17, CM, Epassporte: Any word on the money?
9/17, SKNANB: Maybe. Check back next week.

9/23, CM, Epassporte: Any word on the money?
9/23, SKNANB: You aren't getting it.
9/23, CM, Epassporte: Ok, hey, did you see my movie?
9/23, SKNANB: I must have missed it, how long was it in the theaters?

babymaker 2010-09-24 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerald (Post 491048)
newest on the epassport saga
Source for this post:
https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm

To All SKNANB Visa Prepaid Cardholders

SKNANB is committed to adhering to Visa's stringent program requirements and maintaining the integrity of the global payment network. On instruction of SKNANB, on September 23rd, 2010, ePassporte's network access for cards issued by SKNANB was disabled. As a result, SKNANB prepaid cardholders will not be able to view their card balances through the ePassporte.com website.

SKNANB is actively working to restore, as soon as possible, SKNANB prepaid cardholders' ability to obtain information regarding their Visa card balances and to access Visa card funds. SKNANB prepaid cardholders can expect further communication from SKNANB on or before September 30th 2010.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding your SKNANB prepaid card, please contact SKNANB at vcprepaid@sknanb.com. In addition, a dedicated telephone line will be established shortly.

SKNANB thanks you for your continued patience.

St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Limited

that actually seems like good news for epass people i never used it since i had it years ago and realized it was fake lol :D But they seem to have stopped mallicks access to the funds and will pay the righful fund holders their money :)

Emerald 2010-09-24 12:44 PM

I must admit I am feeling a bit optimistic after reading that message from St. Kitts. I do have a substantial amount locked in the VV side of epassporte and do hope things get sorted soon.

Porn Income is almost non-existent these days since so many sponsors have flown the coop, closed down without notice, not to mention the ones that still exist that use many tricks to siphon your money and shave you smooth like a babies bottom! (Over the years, this money does add up substantially and you feel like you are being kicked over and over)

Its been a good run for the last 14 years but I dont foresee it lasting too much longer for alot of us in the Free Site and Linklist business. I wish I have adapted and changed with the times - instead I just sat there with the same business model as I started out with 14 years ago :(

ecchi 2010-09-24 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoneMistress (Post 491027)
Did you say "Chink"? Please tell me that is a typo.

Oh, if you look through a few of his past posts you'll see that it is very unlikely that this is a typo.

RedCherry 2010-09-24 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerald (Post 491053)
instead I just sat there with the same business model as I started out with 14 years ago :(

It is never too late to change. Look at all of us doing blogs / twitter / youtube / facebook etc that we never would have done a year ago.

And don't write off the old ways either. Just by upping my submissions this month and doing free sites along with TGP galleries, I'm already ahead of my best month last year, and still have days to go to the end of the month. Even the old ways are helping my bottom line. |thumb

Simon 2010-09-24 02:51 PM

DO IT NOW...NOW...NOW!!!
 
|attention

I tried to withdraw the remaining funds in my ePassporte *Wallet* this morning when I saw the latest message from SKNANB (posted earlier in this thread), but the ACH transfer to bank account was showing an error message and wouldn't complete.

Good news is I just tried again and it went through, or at least the ePassporte website shows that it did and now my balance is reduced by the amount I transferred.

My advice to anyone with money still in the Wallet (not on the Visa part of the account) is that you may want to withdraw all that you can as soon as you can in case things go completely tits-up in the next few days. I know it's not easy for those not in the USA to withdraw their funds, but if you're in the USA and can do an ACH transfer to your bank account this may be time to jump on this.

|attention

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Charlie 2010-09-24 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 491059)
Oh, if you look through a few of his past posts you'll see that it is very unlikely that this is a typo.

I know you have hard on for me, but I'm pretty much done with your wisdom and trivia due to your "downfall of America" prediction. That's right up there with the "second coming". Go back to defending epassporte.

Greenguy 2010-09-24 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 491064)
|attention

I tried to withdraw the remaining funds in my ePassporte *Wallet* this morning when I saw the latest message from SKNANB (posted earlier in this thread), but the ACH transfer to bank account was showing an error message and wouldn't complete.

Good news is I just tried again and it went through, or at least the ePassporte website shows that it did and now my balance is reduced by the amount I transferred.

My advice to anyone with money still in the Wallet (not on the Visa part of the account) is that you may want to withdraw all that you can as soon as you can in case things go completely tits-up in the next few days. I know it's not easy for those not in the USA to withdraw their funds, but if you're in the USA and can do an ACH transfer to your bank account this may be time to jump on this.

|attention

I just did that & it appears to have gone thru.

Honestly, take the $100 I'm missing out of the equation & I could care less about the Visa thing. I'd be happy with a company that could accept money from sponsors that do not pay via check & then transfer it to my bank once a week for a $3 fee.

tickler 2010-09-24 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 491045)
That person who had around a quarter of a million in their account killed themselves.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=988829

Sorry to hear about that guy.

The money apppears to have something to do with gambling, which may be part of the problem at ePass.

ArtWilliams 2010-09-24 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tickler (Post 491075)
Sorry to hear about that guy.

The money apppears to have something to do with gambling, which may be part of the problem at ePass.

The whole problem has to be that these prepaid VISA cards which can be loaded with literally hundreds of thousands of dollars from any bank account in the world breaks every money laundering rule in VISA's book.

My guess is that VISA is bowing to pressure from the U.S. Treasury and DOJ. There are other companies trying to step in and offer the same service but they too will suffer the same fate.

I guess is that people may actually see their virtual VISA money but it may take months or years as every account is checked in detail to see whether it has ties to organized crime or the worse terrorism.

I have no proof to offer but I this is my gut feel.

plateman 2010-09-24 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 491077)
The whole problem has to be that these prepaid VISA cards which can be loaded with literally hundreds of thousands of dollars from any bank account in the world breaks every money laundering rule in VISA's book.

My guess is that VISA is bowing to pressure from the U.S. Treasury and DOJ. There are other companies trying to step in and offer the same service but they too will suffer the same fate.

I guess is that people may actually see their virtual VISA money but it may take months or years as every account is checked in detail to see whether it has ties to organized crime or the worse terrorism.

I have no proof to offer but I this is my gut feel.

I agree to some of that or it may be all that happened, I know I had to verify my account and got the message on sept 1 and here is what it says

I sent the stuff the 13th and havent got anything back yet

ePassporte closely monitors all of our Accounts to comply with relevant governmental identity verification regulations. Your account has been flagged for additional identity verification as our records indicate that the CUMULATIVE amount of funds LOADED INTO your Account has reached or surpassed US$5,000.00 . To allow ePassporte to comply with these relevant regulations, you are required to provide current identity verification documents within 30 days of this notice.

Please submit the following documents within 30 days:

1) A photocopy of a valid government-issued photo ID
2) A copy of a recent bank statement or a copy of a utility bill (i.e. phone, water or gas) which clearly displays your name and address as shown on your ePassporte Account.

Please upload these verification documents by logging into your ePassporte Account and clicking on the "Upload Documents" link located on the left side navigation bar. You will then be given instructions for uploading the requested documents.

We prefer that you scan and upload your documents through our website, as this method provides ePassporte with the most legible documents. Please ensure your scanned documents can be read clearly before submission, as incomplete or unclear documents will not be considered for review.

Alternatively, you may submit these documents via e-mail to:

BE ADVISED that the review of your documents may take up to 10 business days. Please take this into consideration when submitting your documents. If you fail to provide these documents within 30 days of this notice, your Account will be placed in "Receive Only" Mode wherein you will be unable to load funds to you Account, send Peer to Peer transfers or withdraw funds. You will only be able to receive transfers from ePassporte Business Accounts via Business to Peer transfers.

JustRobert 2010-09-24 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 491071)
Honestly, take the $100 I'm missing out of the equation & I could care less about the Visa thing. I'd be happy with a company that could accept money from sponsors that do not pay via check & then transfer it to my bank once a week for a $3 fee.

Thats my feeling as well.

Plus being able to transfer money for PA's and other stuff is easy. Shit, they can raise the 30 cent transfer fee to a dollar to help offset their losses and I'd continue to use them as long as those places still take it.

plateman 2010-09-24 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRobert (Post 491079)
Thats my feeling as well.

Plus being able to transfer money for PA's and other stuff is easy. Shit, they can raise the 30 cent transfer fee to a dollar to help offset their losses and I'd continue to use them as long as those places still take it.

I know it was handy and getting checks suck, and double for me, I stay in a place where the mail goes to a lock box a half a block away from the condo

ecchi 2010-09-25 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 491065)
I know you have hard on for me, but I'm pretty much done with your wisdom and trivia due to your "downfall of America" prediction. That's right up there with the "second coming". Go back to defending epassporte.

It will probably surprise you to learn that I actually like America and Americans, and I genuinely hope I am wrong. However the reason I am probably correct is that too many Americans have this "America is great, nothing can go wrong attitude" so don't take the steps needed to make me wrong.

For example, in his first term of office George W. started to fuck up the economy. Regardless of any other issues (including party loyalties) anyone who cared about America should have voted against him to save the country. However he spent the money on things that made him popular, and despite American economists screaming that this was a bad thing, most Americans stuck with their belief that America is indestructible, and voted him in for a second term. He fucked the economy some more, then the crash happened. The crash was not really his fault, but he had so "knife edged" the economy that it made it hard to pull America back from the brink. The fact that the crash hit America so badly is George W.'s fault, the fact that America has still not recovered from it is George W.'s fault, and the fact that you are tottering on the brink of a second dip is George W.'s fault. And it is the fault of the majority of Americans who refused to listen to the warnings from his first term of office because they thought America was indestructible, and voted him in a second time.

And there is another big disaster looming - the mid terms. If most Americans vote with their hearts instead of their brains the impending "falling of the sky" I was talking about will become even more probable. Unfortunately, to save the country, the majority of voting Americans need to realise that America is not indestructible, and vote for what America needs, not for what they want. However most Americans have the same views as you "America is great, we don't have to worry", and that will push the country into disaster and decline.

Remember what happened to the Roman empire, or more recently to the British empire. Both of those died because the Romans and British thought about their countries the same way you (and so many others) now think about America, and unless a hell of a lot of people have a rethink, America is going the same way as the Roman empire.

And that is why I so often post things like those in my previous post. Hopefully some people will think about what I say, and convince others, and will save your country. I doubt it though. Most people are probably thinking "What the fuck has it got to do with that Brit. America is great, and we don't need no Limey telling us otherwise." Ironic isn't it? What will probably do for the USA in the end is patriotism. People need to learn that being patriotic does not just mean loving your country, it also means doing what is best for your country, even if it hurts you. Sitting back with a self satisfied "America is great" attitude and letting America go to hell in a handcart makes you about as patriotic as an Iraqi urinating on the Stars and Stripes.

Remember that famous quote "Think not what your country can do for you, think only what you can do for your country."

Toby 2010-09-25 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 491089)
Remember that famous quote "Think not what your country can do for you, think only what you can do for your country."

If you're going to quote a famous American, even out of context, at least get the quote right.

And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy

Charlie 2010-09-25 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi (Post 491089)
It will probably surprise you to learn that I actually like America and Americans, and I genuinely hope I am wrong. However the reason I am probably correct is that too many Americans have this "America is great, nothing can go wrong attitude" so don't take the steps needed to make me wrong.

For example, in his first term of office George W. started to fuck up the economy. Regardless of any other issues (including party loyalties) anyone who cared about America should have voted against him to save the country. However he spent the money on things that made him popular, and despite American economists screaming that this was a bad thing, most Americans stuck with their belief that America is indestructible, and voted him in for a second term. He fucked the economy some more, then the crash happened. The crash was not really his fault, but he had so "knife edged" the economy that it made it hard to pull America back from the brink. The fact that the crash hit America so badly is George W.'s fault, the fact that America has still not recovered from it is George W.'s fault, and the fact that you are tottering on the brink of a second dip is George W.'s fault. And it is the fault of the majority of Americans who refused to listen to the warnings from his first term of office because they thought America was indestructible, and voted him in a second time.

And there is another big disaster looming - the mid terms. If most Americans vote with their hearts instead of their brains the impending "falling of the sky" I was talking about will become even more probable. Unfortunately, to save the country, the majority of voting Americans need to realise that America is not indestructible, and vote for what America needs, not for what they want. However most Americans have the same views as you "America is great, we don't have to worry", and that will push the country into disaster and decline.

Remember what happened to the Roman empire, or more recently to the British empire. Both of those died because the Romans and British thought about their countries the same way you (and so many others) now think about America, and unless a hell of a lot of people have a rethink, America is going the same way as the Roman empire.

And that is why I so often post things like those in my previous post. Hopefully some people will think about what I say, and convince others, and will save your country. I doubt it though. Most people are probably thinking "What the fuck has it got to do with that Brit. America is great, and we don't need no Limey telling us otherwise." Ironic isn't it? What will probably do for the USA in the end is patriotism. People need to learn that being patriotic does not just mean loving your country, it also means doing what is best for your country, even if it hurts you. Sitting back with a self satisfied "America is great" attitude and letting America go to hell in a handcart makes you about as patriotic as an Iraqi urinating on the Stars and Stripes.

Remember that famous quote "Think not what your country can do for you, think only what you can do for your country."

Nobody loves America (or Americans) except people that need something and people with a gun to their head. As far as the demise of America goes, you better pray with everything you have that doesn't happen cause we are going to be taking a lot of places with us. If this past decade has taught you nothing else at all, it should have at least given you a sense of that.

As far as something being "great", I'll leave that for all you self righteous fucks to judge. I'm fine with being bigger, badder and dirtier than most everyone else.

Toby 2010-09-25 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 491099)
...I'm fine with being bigger, badder and dirtier than most everyone else.

Yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow death I shall fear no evil: for I am the biggest, meanest son of a bitch in the valley. |thumb

Simon 2010-09-25 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 491045)
That person who had around a quarter of a million in their account killed themselves.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=988829

The guy (cfoxs30) who began that thread, and who has the quarter million in their account, is still alive and posting. But his friend, Danny Gilbert, the owner of templedupoker.com, who evidently also had a lot of money locked in ePassporte did shoot himself, and that thread starter says it was at least in part due to the problems caused by ePassporte and Danny not being able to get his money to pay other people.

Cleo 2010-09-25 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon (Post 491102)
The guy (cfoxs30) who began that thread, and who has the quarter million in their account, is still alive and posting. But his friend, Danny Gilbert, the owner of templedupoker.com, who evidently also had a lot of money locked in ePassporte did shoot himself, and that thread starter says it was at least in part due to the problems caused by ePassporte and Danny not being able to get his money to pay other people.

My mistake. This whole mess is well such a mess. :(

Charlie 2010-09-25 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 491101)
Yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow death I shall fear no evil: for I am the biggest, meanest son of a bitch in the valley. |thumb

LOL, plus we change the rules in the middle of the game whenever it suits us, so if one of these countries started getting stupid and pushing the whole credit issue, we could just consider them a criminal organization, freeze all their assets and have another war (hopefully one of those ones where we just bomb them night and day and none of our troops get killed).

God knows we loaned out enough money to people in the past. |thumb

plateman 2010-09-25 05:29 PM

this was posted at the zoo not long ago - that reply sorta makes me believe we may get our money

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