Who me???

Nope just haven't had a chance to change them before this and now its a very good reason to :)

|smooch|

I started my first free site about 6 months ago and it is working very well for sales to my pay sites.

JanTM you can setup ssi to pull in your AVS signup page so that when you want to switch to another one it is simple. Just a thought.

It would be interesting to see a CyberAge response to this thread.

Hi Kush,

It would be interesting to see Cyberage's response indeed....

maybe Greenguy or Jim can persuade them to appear on this board as well....

I posted on their board after I found out about it:

http://www.avsprograms.com/forum/ind...ST&f=2&t=1015&

They never replied directly to me on the board, but I did get a PM from them asking what it would take to make things right. I told them 2 simple things:

1 - get rid of the FPA
2 - get rid of the new windows

They have yet to reply to my last message, so who knows what they are thinking.

It looks like the big AVS's are going the way of the dodo bird. I just hope the smaller ones that are stil up & running don't end up like GloBil.

They're probably doing some serious RE-thinking of their plan...

So many things in this industry spiral into larger things beyond belief... and maybe they're starting to feel this way

Damn that's one ugly thread over that AVS board....

glad I never really ventured much into AVS |skull|

THIS IS OPINION ONLY!

I believe most AVS's will be gone shortly... based on the simple fact that the model is not sustainable under the new Visa rules, that require the "biller" to 'own' the content they supply.

Some of the larger AVS's are trying things to get around the rules, but I do not believe that any of them are sustainable.

CA said
eg: tommorrow it could all change again.


I would not be moving sites from one AVS to another on the word of the recieving AVS saying that there is no problem.. There is a problem and they just arent doing anything about it.

I believe you should look for a longer term solution.. unles you are structured to change your AVS site scripts in a very easy fashion, and wish to do it regularly.

DD

I agree with DD. :(

Time to move on to other means of sales.

I'm glad to see that others share my view |rasta|

One of the downsides, however, will be a greater saturation of free sites now that AVS has taken a turn for the worse, which on average will probably mean less average profit per free site :(

I don't think it can get any worse then what can be found at any big TGP.

ditto.

Free sites will always be more profitable than galleries (at least in my opinion)

I love the AVS model, but when you take away (or greatly diminish) the upsells, you might as well just build free sites that sell the sponsors directly.

I'm not buying the whole "exposing members to the great bonus content will boost retention" theory. Good paysites have higher quantity & quality of content, so why make 'em jump through the hoops? |sad|

Did you know we have the same Birthdays? ;)

Cool! I have family in Austin too. |cheers|

Well I've got some family up in Canada too |jester|

We just share all the similarieities don't we?

Another Austinite here! |waves|

Wow, nice to meet you!

I'm coming across more and more people from Austin on the net, pretty cool indeed ;)

is AVS still good for business?

Bringing 7 year old threads back from the dead is likely not good for business.
It really makes you look like a sig whore.

oups sorry
I didnt notice
thanks for the advice

Gotta admit though, going back through the history is an interesting read for a guy who still makes a good chunk of his income from AVS sites.

The sky is, and always will be, falling. |scared|

I'm still reading the other 9 4+ year old posts they brought back.

its my fault i was searching for post that were talking about reviews and didn't pay attention about how old the posts were.
Rookie mistake
I apologize