I do not agree with that statement. The surfer might not but the submitter does. I just pulled my spread sheet out to verify where my freesite sales were coming from and here is the breakdown:
48% warning page - 35% main page - 17% galleries
Every page is a chance to sell the surfer and if most of my sales are coming from the warning page they are obviously reading it.

I feel if a freesite builder cannot sell on the warning page then they should improve their building skills or just submit to tgp's. Just my opinion.

I agree, the submitters job is to get the surfer to the sponsor as soon as possible. Warning page and main page provide the best opportunities to do that. Without those a free site is no more than a TGP gallery.

As for the question at hand is such a recip link blind or not. Speaking as a submitter and not a link list owner I dont really care either way. To me it's just a link I have to include on my site to get accepted - it makes little odds to us.

What I dont like to see is that it seems submitters are having to make choices between link-o-rama or penisbot but not both in the same recip table. That can't be good for either party and to be honest as a submitter I will always side with the site that sends me the most traffic.

It's crystal clear mate.. and more people should see it... !


Cleo's post on the first page was the scariest one... All it needs is a few of us to ask for


and it's all over for free sites, linklists and half the biz... because TGPs will be the next ones to take it up...

This is what is coming.. if "we" follow this path..

http://www.dangerdave.com.au/blindrecips2.htm


DD

A little off topic..

Useless stat with ratios and more... ( if you are converting 48% at the warning page but your ratio is 1:10,565,464,646 then it means nothing.. and vice versa, if it's 1:20 and the galleries... the warning page argument falls apart.)

Additionally.. what are you building galleries for? Why not just build 4,532,435,535,534 warning pages..??


Not true, that is just an opinion...

(As is the following) The "job" was/is to get the surfer primed to buy... so sending them from the warning page or "as fast as possible" is flawed. Galleries are there to be used to get the surfer interested in the product you are selling.

If warning pages were king, we would allow blind links, and have fucking big ones right at the top.

DD

If you redirect all traffic to your sponsor you will get 100% of signups from this redirect :)

Surfers don't like and don't need warning page. If we want to make good sites for surfers then we must forget about this page.

This example is too extreme and you don't accept freesites.

Am I right to assume the following.

1) Link lists that that want to use key words in their recipes instead of their domain name or name of site, will still accept sites from submitters if they add their site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. ( Kit said o.k. to this I think)


So the question is,
The link lists which think the links are blind, do you still feel the links are blind if the submitters adds the site name to the recipe but it won’t be linked. Will you still reject our sites if we do every thing in 1?

Kind regards Sat

"Click Here To See Her Suck Cock" is blind but when put under a banner it becomes part of the banner and is not blind. As Greenie once said, it's the intent of the ad space and even a first time computer user will recognize a recip table as a box full of clickable links where they can hopefully get porn. I like this recip table |thumb

Then, please, let us now all reasons how to get banned at LOR ?

Maybe this will help me to understand what criteria i didn't pass!
Untill this moment you are the only one, who banned webmaster (me) because of his own oppinion (question, answer) , even it is stypid or fullish!

... and my suggestions - remove button "apeal" from the usefullsripts, it is not working! I tried to write e-mails , but didn't receive any answers!
It is a dirty trick to give a hope for webmaster , when actually he is wasting his time

I don't recruited anybody to help me push my opinion. ;-)

I agree with you. Natural linking way suppose more freedom for the free site makers. We recommend to use the official reciprocal links, but do not order to use ONLY them.

The thing we'll strong require to be approved is inclusion "Porn" word in link texts or titles.

If you have a very good site, it will be accepted even with custom recips, but word "Porn" must be used in category and index link in any case.

You're off topic now, but in your case, my guess would be Poor Grammar or Spelling Errors. If you really want to know, send me a PM with your domain & I'll look them up on the blacklist & send you a vailid reason for each one that I added. I'll do it in public if you want as well.

Oddly enough, I can say that without using the winking smiley.

2 months ago, the example I started this thread with would be too extreme.

And you never answered my question? If Kit's recip is OK, how many copies of it out of the 16 recips on that free site are ok? 2? 4? 8? 12?

With most recip links, the only difference is the site's name.

This is from your site/rejection email, correct?:

http://www.best-wet-pussy.com/sample/
If I were the surfer I know where I'd be clicking ;)

I agree, it was only used to explain that surfers do read what is written on the warning page and nothing more.

The rest of the comments/responses of freesite structure would be better off in its own thread/discussion.

what if it were a text recip like the rest of them, sans the design colors and border?

Yes I do.... just not from you!

DD

Umm...the link that says "Enter this Pornsite"? |banghead|

As people seem to be getting a bit tense with this thread, thought I'd throw in a "Merry Christmas" to everyone!

As for my site, Debauchery, it's fine with me if folks put the "Debauchery.com" in there if they wish. I'm pretty laid back as far as what I accept and the recips that people use. I even offer a recip, and have for a while now, that just links to my root using the anchor text "Free Porn Videos" with non-hyperlinked text that says "Debauchery.com"

DangerDave, I don't want and don't have enaugh time to argue with you. I respect you as webmaster, but your site is not linklist for me. 0-3 freesites a day is nothing. Your opinion is your opinion, my opinion is my opinion. Let's stay with our opinions and there is no sence to argue here.

WTF are you talking about? Your opinion can't be stupid. Your opinion is just one of the opinions.

I answered your question, probably you didn't read it. I told you that it looks good if webmaster uses different keywords for each linklist. It's so easy to find 2, 4, 8, 16 different keywords for each linklist in any niche. I'm sure that 99% of linklist owners will accept these freesites. You can rotate these keywords, it'e even better for webmaster and linklist owners - more SE traffic.

I've answered you already, but I want to add something. Why do you think that 48% of your signups comes from warning page? I think that in 90% of cases surfers just can't find the ENTER link.

1st point of entry and 1st chance to communicate with the surfer.
Nothing more, this is off topic.

Always good to have an expert on what is and what isn't a linklist.

Have you ever even seen one of JustRobert's freesites? Clean and easy to navigate. That may be one reason why he can submit to linklists that you can't submit to.

Just noticed new rule at link-o-rama, if I understand it right Greenie has his own opinion on what is blind links in recips and this poll and thread doesn't matter anything for him :)

Sure are, its obvious

Just noticed....a total lack of grammar

Seeing as I am rejecting sites because I do think it is a blind link, I thought it'd be best to put it in the rules.

Would you rather me not discuss topics like this?