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abatis 2009-01-09 12:05 AM

just wondering i have not heard anything back on the submit i did yesterday, usually you guys are super fast so i just wondered if i am missing something?, thanks.

-abatis

Pagan 2009-01-09 01:17 AM

If I may be so bold, you are going to find a good number of the LLs are slower for the next 7 days or so - two major conventions in Las Vegas back to back. My experience with LOR is that it is normally a day, sometimes 2-3.

Patience young grasshoppa!

abatis 2009-01-09 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagan (Post 436153)
If I may be so bold, you are going to find a good number of the LLs are slower for the next 7 days or so - two major conventions in Las Vegas back to back. My experience with LOR is that it is normally a day, sometimes 2-3.

Patience young grasshoppa!

thats a good call didn't think of that, no hurry, i just wanted to make sure i didn't miss something i guess. have fun at the shows to all going.

-abatis

Greenguy 2009-01-09 10:17 AM

I'm pretty current - if it's not listed, post the URL & we'll look into it.

abatis 2009-01-09 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 436213)
I'm pretty current - if it's not listed, post the URL & we'll look into it.

i found it in the listings, never got acceptance email this time though so thats odd. the url was:

http://paysites4free.com/freesites/n...een/index.html

thanks.

-abatis

crown333 2009-01-14 08:25 AM

Dear Greenie,

Our free site, http://www.badgirlsporno.org/ was rejected for alleged "Blind or Misleading Links". Since we never place any blind or misleading links in our sites, we are at a loss as to what your reviewers were referring to. Please tell us what the problem appears to be, and we will try to fix it ASAP. Thanks.

Crown333

Useless 2009-01-14 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 436779)
Dear Greenie,

Our free site, http://www.badgirlsporno.org/ was rejected for alleged "Blind or Misleading Links". Since we never place any blind or misleading links in our sites, we are at a loss as to what your reviewers were referring to. Please tell us what the problem appears to be, and we will try to fix it ASAP. Thanks.

Crown333

Disclaimer: I am not a review for LOR.

We? How many individuals were involved in the construction of those four pages?

Any reciprocal link which doesn't include the NAME of the link list is blind/misleading under LOR's policy. Also, SnizzShare is not a link list, it is not listing your site, and is therefore not a proper reciprocal link. The reciprocal link table for Bookmark Links has a link to pornsitejunkie.com in it. Pornsitejunkie.com is not a link list -- and no recip button should EVER have links to two different domains it.

You'll often find that the reciprocal links published by certain link lists won't mesh with the rules of others.

Your "Do Not Enter" link is crap. There is no reason to have it and it should be tossed.

There's a lot more wrong with that site, but I don't have time write to critique it beyond the warning page.

crown333 2009-01-14 11:17 AM

Re: Useless Warrior Post
 
1. Thanks for the feedback on recips, etc., notwithstanding your tone.

2. Should we ever get an audience with the Bookmark people we will share with them your admonition.

3. We have no intention of joining your "war". We're merely attempting to comply with this link list's rules and get our site listed.

Thanks again,

Crown333

Mateusz 2009-01-14 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 436803)
2. Should we ever get an audience with the Bookmark people we will share with them your admonition.

I have no idea what you mean but it will be rather hard to get any bookmarkers when your Bookmark us! link puts a non-existing (404) page in someones bookmarks (not to mention its on another domain)

crown333 2009-01-14 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mateusz (Post 436809)
I have no idea what you mean but it will be rather hard to get any bookmarkers when your Bookmark us! link puts a non-existing (404) page in someones bookmarks (not to mention its on another domain)


Thanks for your feedback, Mateusz. Our bad on the "Bookmark us" link, which we will correct.

In our reply post to Useless Warrior, we were not referring to our "Bookmark us" link, however. Our reference was to to his admonition of the recip banner supplied by link list "Bookmark Links", which includes two different URLs, over which we have no control. It seems that many link lists in this business have their own rules, and it's up to us to figure out how to assimilate them.

We appreciate you taking the time to look at our site and comment.

Crown333

Useless 2009-01-14 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 436814)
Our reference was to to his admonition of the recip banner supplied by link list "Bookmark Links", which includes two different URLs, over which we have no control. It seems that many link lists in this business have their own rules, and it's up to us to figure out how to assimilate them.

If you are looking for a motherly tone, then ask your mother's opinion of your free site. Greenie and MML are at the convention in Las Vegas right now, so I decided to help them by replying to your newbie question. If you wanted the reply of someone less experienced, less confident, you should have said so.

My reply was far from being an admonition and if you read it that way, it's probably due to your own insecurities.

And who is "we?" A free site is not a multi-person task. Though, in your case, it may be a good idea to get some help.

Star Man 2009-01-14 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 436779)
Dear Greenie,

Our free site, http://www.badgirlsporno.org/ was rejected for alleged "Blind or Misleading Links". Since we never place any blind or misleading links in our sites, we are at a loss as to what your reviewers were referring to. Please tell us what the problem appears to be, and we will try to fix it ASAP. Thanks.

Crown333

Hey Crown333,I'm not a reviewer for greenie but I can tell you that "Blind or Misleading Links" was about 1 of the 1000 reasons that site won't get listed anywhere and I can't even begin to critique it without turning this post into an essay.

I suggest you and your 'free site building team' take the time to read a bit more.

crown333 2009-01-14 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 436818)
If you are looking for a motherly tone, then ask your mother's opinion of your free site. Greenie and MML are at the convention in Las Vegas right now, so I decided to help them by replying to your newbie question. If you wanted the reply of someone less experienced, less confident, you should have said so.

My reply was far from being an admonition and if you read it that way, it's probably due to your own insecurities.

And who is "we?" A free site is not a multi-person task. Though, in your case, it may be a good idea to get some help.


To set the record straight, you did indeed admonish the "Bookmark Link" link list's recip banner which contained two URLs, that we downloaded from their site and included on our list of recips. That was their banner, not ours, and if it conflicts with this list's rules, then so be it.

Did we not thank you for your comments and critique? If that's not good enough for you, that's too bad, because we will not engage in any tit for tat exchanges with anyone.

Again, thanks for your input.

Crown333

crown333 2009-01-14 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Man (Post 436820)
Hey Crown333,I'm not a reviewer for greenie but I can tell you that "Blind or Misleading Links" was about 1 of the 1000 reasons that site won't get listed anywhere and I can't even begin to critique it without turning this post into an essay.

I suggest you and your 'free site building team' take the time to read a bit more.


Thanks for your comments. While the site has been accepted by most of the link lists we have submitted to so far, we realize this particular link list is more tasking than most. Getting our arms around all those "reasons" you referred to is our objective, and so your advise and comments are appreciated.

Crown333

Pagan 2009-01-14 07:29 PM

If you read the fine print on most webmaster pages, you can safely and easily bypass their rules for using those premade reciprocal link thingies and do your own as long as you follow certain guidelines. One of my tricks is when I see a link list I want to submit to, I read the rules, carefully. I check out a dozen or so sites that they have listed to see what inspirations I draw. Then I read the rules again. If a link list has a rule you can't abide by, don't compromise yourself. Just move on to the next. As to most all of the link lists accepting your site? I will be very very surprised because none of the better known lists you refer to accept blind links. Link-o-rama isn't more tasking - the rules are very clearly stated and fairly applied.

Useless and Mateusz and Starman are all very very valid in their constructive criticism. Perhaps by the time the guys get back you will have a site ready to submit to them. If you ask for help in the newbie forum, I bet you get it. If this doesn't make sense to you, or it raises your hackles, don't resist... don't fight.. just quit while you are ahead.

Greenguy 2009-01-15 03:18 PM

crown333 - Useless & the other posters hit the nail on the head. There's a lot of things on your site that break my listing rules.

If your site is listed at other places already, your best bet is to just remove my link & then re-read my listing rules. Like you said, it's hard to please every link list, but I think you'll find the ones that I share rules with are more legit & the ones that have 2 domains in their recips are a little sneaky.

As far as the tone of posts, it's text. You added the tone. And this is not some cute & cuddly board - we rarely sugar coat anything since there's no need to do so. You asked & got a very legit reply. Just because it's not the reply you were looking for does not mean it's not correct.

crown333 2009-01-16 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 436954)
crown333 - Useless & the other posters hit the nail on the head. There's a lot of things on your site that break my listing rules.

If your site is listed at other places already, your best bet is to just remove my link & then re-read my listing rules. Like you said, it's hard to please every link list, but I think you'll find the ones that I share rules with are more legit & the ones that have 2 domains in their recips are a little sneaky.

As far as the tone of posts, it's text. You added the tone. And this is not some cute & cuddly board - we rarely sugar coat anything since there's no need to do so. You asked & got a very legit reply. Just because it's not the reply you were looking for does not mean it's not correct.

Dear Greenie:

Thank you for your reply, and confirmation that banners with 2-URLs conflict with your rules. As suggested, your link has been removed from our site, and we will not resubmit it, because if the conflict.

We never questioned the validity of any of the posts made about our site. Our responses to posts will indicate that we geniunely appreciated the comments, critique, and suggestions made by all who took the time to visit our site and make comment. All (except for removing the recip banners) were incorporated in our site. We'd like to thank them again.

Since you mentioned it, we will comment on the suggestion by some that we expect "motherly" treatment or a "cute & cuddly" experience at your forum. We made no such reference, suggestion, or request, as the posts will confirm. After 17 years in the rough and tumble adult business we can exchange "just text" with anyone, but we simply choose taking a different tack. We think it just makes for a more productive exchange. Whatever manner your forum works, however, is fine with us.

Our focus will continue to be merely submitting sites that comply with the link list's rules. We intend to imcorporate the comments and critique made here in any future submissions to you. Thanks.

Crown333

Greenguy 2009-01-16 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 437088)
...Since you mentioned it, we will comment on the suggestion by some that we expect "motherly" treatment or a "cute & cuddly" experience at your forum. We made no such reference, suggestion, or request, as the posts will confirm....

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 436803)
1. Thanks for the feedback on recips, etc., notwithstanding your tone....

It was that statement.

Useless 2009-01-16 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 437088)
Dear Greenie:

Thank you for your reply, and confirmation that banners with 2-URLs conflict with your rules. As suggested, your link has been removed from our site, and we will not resubmit it, because if the conflict.

We never questioned the validity of any of the posts made about our site. Our responses to posts will indicate that we geniunely appreciated the comments, critique, and suggestions made by all who took the time to visit our site and make comment. All (except for removing the recip banners) were incorporated in our site. We'd like to thank them again.

Since you mentioned it, we will comment on the suggestion by some that we expect "motherly" treatment or a "cute & cuddly" experience at your forum. We made no such reference, suggestion, or request, as the posts will confirm. After 17 years in the rough and tumble adult business we can exchange "just text" with anyone, but we simply choose taking a different tack. We think it just makes for a more productive exchange. Whatever manner your forum works, however, is fine with us.

Our focus will continue to be merely submitting sites that comply with the link list's rules. We intend to imcorporate the comments and critique made here in any future submissions to you. Thanks.

Crown333

Do you say 'we' rather than 'I' in order to make it sound as if you are something more than you are, which is a person who can't produce a decent-looking free site?

crown333 2009-01-16 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 437092)
It was that statement.

Greenie,

Noted. Our statement about tone was with specific reference to the following, which was the first comment in Useless's initial post following his disclaimer. Plainly, that leadoff statement had absolutely nothing to do with compliance with your rules, and was made for another purpose:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 436789)
We? How many individuals were involved in the construction of those four pages?


Useless 2009-01-16 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 437101)
Greenie,

Noted. Our statement about tone was with specific reference to the following, which was the first comment in Useless's initial post following his disclaimer. Plainly, that leadoff statement had absolutely nothing to do with compliance with your rules, and was made for another purpose:

I guess I shouldn't expect an answer... People like you make me rejoice that my lists are partner-only.

My disclaimer's intent was exactly as it was stated. I am not one of Greenie's employees. I didn't want you, or perhaps a member of your massive free site-building staff, to assume that I was one of his reviewers or think that my word was the final judgment on your free site. My tone may seem adversarial now because I've come to dislike you. But that is probably based on your inability to answer my simple question and repeated claims that my tone was anything but apathetic. At this very moment, I think you are giant douche bag. You may still win me over though. I am easily bribed.

No matter my tone, my employment status or the color of my eyes, your free site is a piece of shit and you are too fucking difficult to help.

crown333 2009-01-16 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 437096)
Do you say 'we' rather than 'I' in order to make it sound as if you are something more than you are, which is a person who can't produce a decent-looking free site?

Greenie,

There's your smoking gun, again. Useless has just confirmed our initial reaction regarding tone and agenda. We would rest our case about Useless' tone, but there appears to be more of this unproductive stuff to come. Should that occur, we may take off the gloves and respond to him with "just text" of our own.


Crown333

Useless 2009-01-16 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 437107)
Greenie,

There's your smoking gun, again. Useless has just confirmed our initial reaction regarding tone and agenda. We would rest our case about Useless' tone, but there appears to be more of this unproductive stuff to come. Should that occur, we may take off the gloves and respond to him with "just text" of our own.

Crown333

What are you, a fucking child? I was the first one to answer your pathetic newbie question and you've done nothing but bitch about me since. I mean, what the fuck? Let me guess -- this is your second board persona and I've pissed you off in the past.

If you had any goddamn sense, you'd be spending your time refining your free site instead of attempting to battle with. If you're here to pick a battle with me, fine. I'm up for piss and drama.

If you have a bone to pick with me, start a bitch thread in the Chit Chat forum. This thread is not the place for your childishness.

crown333 2009-01-16 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 437105)
I guess I shouldn't expect an answer... People like you make me rejoice that my lists are partner-only.

My disclaimer's intent was exactly as it was stated. I am not one of Greenie's employees. I didn't want you, or perhaps a member of your massive free site-building staff, to assume that I was one of his reviewers or think that my word was the final judgment on your free site. My tone may seem adversarial now because I've come to dislike you. But that is probably based on your inability to answer my simple question and repeated claims that my tone was anything but apathetic. At this very moment, I think you are giant douche bag. You may still win me over though. I am easily bribed.

No matter my tone, my employment status or the color of my eyes, your free site is a piece of shit and you are too fucking difficult to help.

Useless,

Well several established link lists who listed our site disagree with you. So much for your keen insight and stellar "judgment".

Win you over????????? We're blowing you off, which is plainly more than you deserve. Your pathetic, clueless, gutter trash behavior speaks for itself, and we will not sully ourselves by dignifying it with anything but benign neglect. As far as we are concerned, you no longer exist.

To all others who graciously offered advice on our site, a hearty thanks.

Crown333

Licker4U 2009-01-16 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crown333 (Post 437109)
We're blowing you off, which is plainly more than you deserve.

You consistently say "we". Are you a duo? Trio? Quad? Or do you have MPD? (Multiple Personality Disorder)


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