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AFRevenue 2005-11-20 08:59 AM

Some domains are banned. Why?
 
Hello,

some domains on my host are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host". Why?
I'm not a "3fnnet".

Useless 2005-11-20 09:10 AM

When I see fetishspace in someone's whois, I assume that their domains are sponsor hosted. Would that be correct? If not, who is the host?

Yahook 2005-11-20 09:17 AM

I know that sponsor hosts are banned but I don't understand why. Some sponsor hosts are even faster and more realiable than a pay hosts.

Surfn 2005-11-20 09:23 AM

I doubt that you have the capacity to understand why Yahook. |banghead|

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
I assume that their domains are sponsor hosted. Would that be correct?

1. It is not correct...
2. I'm the owner of both AFRevenue program and fetishspace hosting.
3. No one domain with "fetishspace" in the whois is sponsor hosted.
Just a sample: http://nylon-pictures.com/
We can see 16 paysites promoted on this domain... but nothing deals with AFRevenue program.
Is it OK for sponsor hosted domains?

Ramster 2005-11-20 09:30 AM

Yahook
The reason sponsor hosted domains are banned by many people is the webmaster has NO control over the domain and hosting so the sponsor could pull the hosting at any time. Therefore banning hosting NOT owned by the poster is a good way to reduce 404 and redirects in the future.

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook
I know that sponsor hosts are banned

We are speaking here not about banned sponsor hosts, Yahook.

I try to find here a reason why my servers, where I sell virtual hosting plans, are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host".

MrMaryLou 2005-11-20 09:42 AM

The whois tells it all :)

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou
The whois tells it all :)

What exactly it tells?

Registration and WHOIS Service Provided By: directNIC.com

Registrant:
Nova Publishing ltd.
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646


Domain Name: FETISHSPACE.NET

Administrative Contact:
Patlias, Georgia
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646

Where is above written that fetishspace is a sponsor host?

MrMaryLou 2005-11-20 09:56 AM

Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its
same ip
Domain name: pornofamily.net

Patrick Steepman (7ND8X)
16 G Malekides street app 23
East End, CY 49130
Cyprus


Record last updated on 2005-03-31 00:00:00
Record created on 2002-04-05 00:00:00
Record expires on 2006-04-05 00:00:00

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.3fn.net
ns1.3fn.net

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou
Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its
same ip
Domain name: pornofamily.net

Is your surename Holms?

Yes, I have one server rented from 3fn.
And all MY domains are hosted on it.
pornofamily.net is my domain.
fetishspace.net is also my domain.
You can see "16 G Malekides street app 23" in both whois info ...
I'm an owner of both companies.. but they have different administrators.. and all my domains are registered on this address.

MY domains are hosted on the one server
(rented from 3fn)...
Another domains (not mine, but my clients, are hosted on another servers)... They even are allocated on the different routers, as you could see in the traceroute...

MrMaryLou 2005-11-20 10:23 AM

MMM case closed you are hosted at 3fn.net

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou
MMM case closed you are hosted at 3fn.net

I'm not hosted at 3fn.net...
I rent a racspace and upstrim entry point from 3fn.net, can you see the difference?

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 10:34 AM

Ok. You ban pornofamily.net, cause it is hosted on 3fn.net...
you don't like 3fn.net ...

But another domains?

Yahook 2005-11-20 10:40 AM

Quote:

Yahook
The reason sponsor hosted domains are banned by many people is the webmaster has NO control over the domain and hosting so the sponsor could pull the hosting at any time. Therefore banning hosting NOT owned by the poster is a good way to reduce 404 and redirects in the future.
You're correct. But I was talking about the case when webmaster owns the domains. He can change NS servers any time he likes and move all his sites to another host.

Greenguy 2005-11-20 11:29 AM

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting.

Yahook 2005-11-20 11:44 AM

Some content is also free.

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

All webmasters which keep their domains on the fetishspace hosting are pay for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting.

Can you see the difference between "3fn hosting" and "3fn equipment"?

You can ban 3fn hosting, of course, cause you don't like a 3fn policy.

But why you ban another company, with another policy, which use 3fn equipment?

I'm AFRevenue ... I'm not 3fn...

I rule these servers... 3fn doesn't rule it.

If some time ago one "Jaguar" run over your lovely frog... Should you kill all people which drive "Jaguars"?

Greenguy 2005-11-20 12:17 PM

What the fuck does hosting have to do with content?

And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn.

Yahook 2005-11-20 12:20 PM

Quote:

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.
People don't pay for some content and it's free - it's the same concept. Nothing personal.

I'm really upset than there are no garantee for well made free site to be listed in all linklists :(

Greenguy 2005-11-20 12:23 PM

I do not list free hosted sites this is clearly stated in my rules. So any moron stupid enought to submit a free hosted site to me should be disappointed in themselves for not reading the rules & blaming me.

You are starting to get realt fucking annoying. Go run your link list your way & stay the fuck out of my business.

MrMaryLou 2005-11-20 12:24 PM

Why Oh Why |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|

RawAlex 2005-11-20 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook
People don't pay for some content and it's free - it's the same concept. Nothing personal.

I'm really upset than there are no garantee for well made free site to be listed in all linklists :(

I provide listing services to webmasters who, like myself, have invested to be in a business. I do not extend the same professional courtesy to people using free or bartered hosting. I consider that their sites, content, and pages can disappear at random, they have no control over their business, and therefore I don't need to take their listings.

I also don't take porn sites illegally hosted on geocities and personal webspace provided by your local ISP (such as AOL). Does that make me a truly bad man?

As for 3FN, well, if you rent space in a bad neighborhood and just change the name on your door, you are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex

AFRevenue 2005-11-20 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn.

I don't ask you to remove the ban on 3fn.
I just ask you to remove ban on domains hosted on my servers.
It's very simple to recognize it.
They have a fetishspace.net in whois.

RawAlex 2005-11-20 12:47 PM

You don't get the point. It isn't about what the DNS is (many hosts let you self-manage a dns, often using the name of one of your domains as the dns) but where you are hosted. You are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex


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